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Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

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Rodney Bathgate

alchemist33 wrote: »

Planning our first F1 trip for the youngster's 18th late in the year, and currently looking at Monza or the Dutch GP. I've registered on the main site to be let know when tickets are available, but anything else I'd need to know? e.g. would I need to go with a travel agent/broker to guarantee tickets? Any raceday experiences worth doing?

All Covid-willing of course

The Dutch GP has/had a lottery system, massively oversubscribed (due to Verstappen) so I wouldn’t bank on getting tickets for that GP.

You could try F1 Experiences to guarantee a ticket but they are very pricey even for the cheapest package and they will try to screw you on a refund if the race is cancelled or switched to a no spectators race.

El_Duderino 09

Inquitus wrote: »

How much new engine development is allowed unstringing the Ferrari PU Upgrades?

I’m not sure what you mean. It’s a whole new power unit. They toyed with copying the innovations that made the Mercedes so good but decided to go with their own design.

In one way it will be the latest engine so it might be a cracker in “standing on the shoulders of giants” style, particularly if it hits the ground running. Could also be a need a lot of bedding in time so might only be ok.

If you’re asking about how much the can develop before the engine is frozen, then I’m not sure. I don’t know if the engine is frozen at the end of this year or the start of next year. I know there are rules around making changes to the engines after they freeze development. They can make changes for reliability reasons but the gains have to be very small.

Killinator

flazio wrote: »

What a Super Star
https://twitter.com/BillyMonger/status/1365410593591726080?s=19

You could drop a piano on that lad and he'd come out of it saying it could've been worse.
A real fighter and a great inspiration, moreso that he's only a mere 21 years old!

ACitizenErased

Formula E race in the vicinity of an attempted missile attack and the F1 still think they should be racing in Saudi Arabia......

pjohnson

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Formula E race in the vicinity of an attempted missile attack and the F1 still think they should be racing in Saudi Arabia......

I feel the current calendar will be amended during the year again and that race chopped......be amazed if it actually gets the go ahead.

El_Duderino 09

pjohnson wrote: »

I feel the current calendar will be amended during the year again and that race chopped......be amazed if it actually gets the go ahead.

The rules of what’s normal and what isn’t are usually put aside by F1. And the rules are usually put aside for Saudi Arabia too. Between the two of them, I think the race will go ahead, unless covid prevents it.

Charlie-Bravo

There's a lot of moment with vaccines now and I can imagine that by June or so, it's going to allow those calendar schedules to go ahead. Before June, anything could choose a headache and limit races.

Jordan 199

So tomorrow is the 1st of March. Less than two weeks to go to pre-season testing.

Jordan 199

Car launches this week:

Tomorrow the 2nd: Alpine and Mercedes.

Wednesday the 3rd: Aston Martin and Haas.

Friday the 5th: Williams.

AMKC

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Car launches this week:

Tomorrow the 2nd: Alpine and Mercedes.

Wednesday the 3rd: Aston Martin and Haas.

Friday the 5th: Williams.

I have to say of them the ones I am most looking forward to seeing are the Alpine and the Aston Martin.

Pen Rua

Haas have will not develop their 2021 car after the Bahrain test, instead focusing solely on 2022.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-risk-development-2021-car-steiner/5530487/amp/

Whilst I'm sure most teams will have this approach, its even riskier for Hass given the tight margins between them & Williams. As I said previously in this thread, Haas has two rookies, versus Williams with a driver in his 3rd F1 season and a driver in his 2nd season. Experience counts.

Harika

Gary Anderson made a good point for developing even if the season is lost. If you don't understand why your car underperforms how to do you want to stop this design flaws?

robinwing

Pen Rua wrote: »

Haas have will not develop their 2021 car after the Bahrain test, instead focusing solely on 2022.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-risk-development-2021-car-steiner/5530487/amp/

Whilst I'm sure most teams will have this approach, its even riskier for Hass given the tight margins between them & Williams. As I said previously in this thread, Haas has two rookies, versus Williams with a driver in his 3rd F1 season and a driver in his 2nd season. Experience counts.

True enough but Grosjean and to a lesser extent Magnusson were less than spectacular even allowing for a crap car . Magnusson was popular with the lads working in the team at races at least. Grosjean tested Indy car 2 days ago , very visible scarring on his hand but he went well and liked the car

Charlie-Bravo

Interesting comments that the RB engine from Honda is the latest version which was originally due for 2022 with the new car shape. Hopefully it is comparable to Mercedes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5BonkqpBs

https://youtu.be/ds5BonkqpBs

AMKC

Charlie-Bravo wrote: »

Interesting comments that the RB engine from Honda is the latest version which was originally due for 2022 with the new car shape. Hopefully it is comparable to Mercedes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5BonkqpBs

https://youtu.be/ds5BonkqpBs

That's right. Honda went all out with this engine. So hopefully it will be a big improvement and Red Bull can give Mercedes some sleepless nights.

mickdw

AMKC wrote: »

That's right. Honda went all out with this engine. So hopefully it will be a big improvement and Red Bull can give Mercedes some sleepless nights.

Knowing hondas recent history in f1, this engine will likely prove to be unreliable for most of this season then become the class of the field towards the end of the year and bring the title to red bull next year.

Jordan 199

Mercedes launch: 11am today.

Alpine launch: 3pm today.

Pen Rua

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1366676261456674817

It looks like a newer livery. Gone are the Merc stars.

Pen Rua

A very new look Mercedes.

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1366697351755218945

pjohnson

I assume the star for Lauda is somewhere amongst the black still.

Harika

Great design, except the AMG spam

Pen Rua

pjohnson wrote: »

I assume the star for Lauda is somewhere amongst the black still.

Yes - closer to the headrest of the driver, somewhere between where the halo meets the chasis and the air intake.

duploelabs

Pen Rua wrote: »

A very new look Mercedes.

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1366697351755218945

Very little Mercedes branding, Show that to a casual and they wouldn't know what team it is

ricimaki

Very much an AMG livery, rather than a Mercedes one. Looks very nice though

AMKC

Its definitely brighter than the last black car Mercedes had. I wonder are Mercedes thinking of doing a Renault and just branding the team as AMG F1.

recyclebin

Silver at the back around engine is not a coincidence. Black paint absorbs heat from sun rather than reflect it.

eviltimeban

Looks like Tron is about to enter the game.

Harika

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlpineF1Team/status/1366767488663445504

Great livery too

Jordan 199

pyramuid man

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Now that is a nice livery. Lovely colour.
Much better than the Mercedes one from earlier.