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GAA Infastructure

Pete_Cavan

Thread dedicated to the development of stadia, pitches and facilities in general at all levels in the GAA. Post up details of new infrastructure being planned or built within your club/county or discuss projects. I'll get the ball rolling in a minute...

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celt262

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Care to back that up? Link?

You know there is no link.

It just looks bad that a few months after the begging bowl was out and will possibly be out again this year there are plans to spend millions on upgrades. I know it will be loans over a period of time but i wonder will the taxpayer get their money back?

grbear

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40231556.html

"Monaghan County Board chairman Declan Flanagan fears the redevelopment project for Casement Park could “escalate beyond belief” as construction costs rise.

Flanagan revealed his concerns about the Casement Park project and how exactly running costs will be paid for when the new stadium is up and running."

I won't copy anymore of the text as I feel the full articles worth reading.

This whole project just seems to make less and less sense. The plans look great and it'd be good for Antrim but the price is too high.

PTH2009

https://www.wlrfm.com/2021/02/19/walsh-park-works-set-to-start-in-2022/

It's been in the works for so long and please god construction finally starts as scheduled in 2022, it looks pretty impressive but tbf anything is better than what's there now

Greenlights16

Might get another crop of silage off of it the year!

Pete_Cavan

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.wlrfm.com/2021/02/19/walsh-park-works-set-to-start-in-2022/

It's been in the works for so long and please god construction finally starts as scheduled in 2022, it looks pretty impressive but tbf anything is better than what's there now

That looks great. I think we should be looking to provide some public space outside stadiums if possible and have food vendors, kids zone, etc. for people to mingle in before/after games. Unfortunately the planning drawings show that space to be a car park.

[Deleted User]

People have to get to games though and the days of firing the car anywhere are long gone, so a car park is more essential.

Lost Ormond

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

People have to get to games though and the days of firing the car anywhere are long gone, so a car park is more essential.

Or maybe you have stadium and areas surrounding stadium set up so people dont have to drive to the ground and use public transport, group together hiring buses etc far more than they do now.

[Deleted User]

Lost Ormond wrote: »

Or maybe you have stadium and areas surrounding stadium set up so people dont have to drive to the ground and use public transport, group together hiring buses etc far more than they do now.

In reality that doesn’t work though, not by a long way, especially for a county grounds. We’re talking about people coming from rural areas and this is a real stadium plan not a pipe dream for a perfect Ireland.

kksaints

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

In reality that doesn’t work though, not by a long way, especially for a county grounds. We’re talking about people coming from rural areas and this is a real stadium plan not a pipe dream for a perfect Ireland.

Also most GAA matches take place on Sundays, days where public transport is on reduced services.

Pete_Cavan

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

People have to get to games though and the days of firing the car anywhere are long gone, so a car park is more essential.

The parking area shown there at Walsh Park has 16 car spaces, of which three are disabled. They are almost entirely irrelevant to people getting to a game and certainly not essential, they wouldn't even be available to the general public. Public space would be a far better use of that area, on both match and non-match days.

BonnieSituation

Who's driving to Walsh Park though that need parking that close? It won't be any of the patrons thats' for sure. As is right. There needs to be some parking on site for logistic reasons.

If there's parking needed for match days it'll be done as P+R.

For those coming from town it's a handy jaunt up sure.

[Deleted User]

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Who's driving to Walsh Park though that need parking that close? It won't be any of the patrons thats' for sure. As is right. There needs to be some parking on site for logistic reasons.

If there's parking needed for match days it'll be done as P+R.

For those coming from town it's a handy jaunt up sure.

Where have they said there will be a park and ride service? If they have one it’ll be a first, plus most shopping centres (which are normally the only car parks in big towns) won’t be allowing this. A lot put a stop to it for various days out long ago.

Pete_Cavan

What's better, a few parking spaces for county board officials or space for hundreds of people to enjoy? Honestly, some people in this country's fascination with parking never ceases to amaze me.

[Deleted User]

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

What's better, a few parking spaces for county board officials or space for hundreds of people to enjoy? Honestly, some people in this country's fascination with parking never ceases to amaze me.

We’ll all teleport in on the power of Eamonn Ryan’s mind. It’ll be grand.

I’m just being realistic. While it’s a lovely idea and it would be great to see funfairs and family picnics in the space, it’s a sports ground which will have a lot of supporters coming from rural areas. Or are they just left to rot to fit in with the vision?

Lost Ormond

kksaints wrote: »

Also most GAA matches take place on Sundays, days where public transport is on reduced services.

It doesnt have to be simply public transport but park and ride

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

We’ll all teleport in on the power of Eamonn Ryan’s mind. It’ll be grand.

I’m just being realistic. While it’s a lovely idea and it would be great to see funfairs and family picnics in the space, it’s a sports ground which will have a lot of supporters coming from rural areas. Or are they just left to rot to fit in with the vision?

Many do come from rural areas but its same with countless stadiums around Ireland and beyond which are surrounded by housing estates and better off with park and ride or other ways to reduce traffic levels in and around the stadium on match day.
Theyre not being left to rot at all and the experience of supporters will be far better if you reduce car parking spaces directly around the stadium and put in extra park and ride or other ways to get to the stadium.

threeball

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

That looks great. I think we should be looking to provide some public space outside stadiums if possible and have food vendors, kids zone, etc. for people to mingle in before/after games. Unfortunately the planning drawings show that space to be a car park.

Whats the GAA obsession with half roofing a stand. Either roof it or don't fcukin roof it but theres nothing worse than drops the size of sliothars coming off the edge of a roof and landing directly in your lap while the lad two rows back is dry as a bone.

Pete_Cavan

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

We’ll all teleport in on the power of Eamonn Ryan’s mind. It’ll be grand.

I’m just being realistic. While it’s a lovely idea and it would be great to see funfairs and family picnics in the space, it’s a sports ground which will have a lot of supporters coming from rural areas. Or are they just left to rot to fit in with the vision?

We’ll all park in 16 car spaces which wont even be available to the general public. It’ll be grand.

breezy1985

Most GAA stadia I can think of dont have parking as parts of the grounds and they manage fine somehow.

How did people manage in Walsh Park up to now

CrabRevolution

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

We’ll all teleport in on the power of Eamonn Ryan’s mind. It’ll be grand.
I’m just being realistic. While it’s a lovely idea and it would be great to see funfairs and family picnics in the space, it’s a sports ground which will have a lot of supporters coming from rural areas. Or are they just left to rot to fit in with the vision?

How can you say you're being realistic when you claim rural supporters are "left to rot" because in future they won't be able to park in some parking spaces that aren't even available to them now?

breezy1985

CrabRevolution wrote: »

How can you say you're being realistic when you claim rural supporters are "left to rot" because in future they won't be able to park in some parking spaces that aren't even available to them now?

Anyway why should city dwellers have to bend over backwards for the sake of rural drivers. Much better to use the space for something that can some use from the people who live in the area

914

threeball wrote: »

Whats the GAA obsession with half roofing a stand. Either roof it or don't fcukin roof it but theres nothing worse than drops the size of sliothars coming off the edge of a roof and landing directly in your lap while the lad two rows back is dry as a bone.

Always amazed by this. In Waterford all we need to do is look a few 100 meters down the road to the RSC where their recent stand (Tramore Road side) is fully covered, with steep seating for an uninterrupted view

rMDBsk0

914

This is the image which I attempted to display!

threeball

914 wrote: »

This is the image which I attempted to display!

Thats more like it and I'd even extend another metre out just to be sure.

BloodyBill

kksaints wrote: »

Also most GAA matches take place on Sundays, days where public transport is on reduced services.

Munster is probably the only province to have a decent train service that runs regularly to their main cities/ towns. Every county has a decent service to their main stadium on match day. Its a tragedy the state of rail in some parts,especially Ulster and the border counties.. Not that the likes of West Clare or rural west Limerick or Cork Kerry border have access . They don't.

breezy1985

BloodyBill wrote: »

Munster is probably the only province to have a decent train service that runs regularly to their main cities/ towns. Every county has a decent service to their main stadium on match day. Its a tragedy the state of rail in some parts,especially Ulster and the border counties.. Not that the likes of West Clare or rural west Limerick or Cork Kerry border have access . They don't.

The buses are usually at times that are useless for anything like a match too. Do county boards or clubs not run buses like the soccer teams do ?

roadmaster

It looks like the Ulster Final will be in clones for the foreseeable future which I am happy with

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/building-casement-is-not-priority-says-new-gaa-president-larry-mccarthy-40141467.html

Billy Ocean

When i seen a indo GAA list article I presumed with was Martin Brehony but turned out to be actually Frank Roche.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rated-and-slated-all-32-gaa-county-grounds-assessed-but-how-does-yours-measure-up-40322039.html

Good to see Nowlan Park as number 1, brilliant venue for games around the 20k attendance mark, our own county ground of Wexford Park making the top half was surprising, the 2nd worst county ground in the country for wind after salthill but I'm open to correction.

kala85

Cusack Park in ennis must be the worst one I have been in.

Didn't think clones was great either

[Deleted User]

Billy Ocean wrote: »

When i seen a indo GAA list article I presumed with was Martin Brehony but turned out to be actually Frank Roche.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rated-and-slated-all-32-gaa-county-grounds-assessed-but-how-does-yours-measure-up-40322039.html

Good to see Nowlan Park as number 1, brilliant venue for games around the 20k attendance mark, our own county ground of Wexford Park making the top half was surprising, the 2nd worst county ground in the country for wind after salthill but I'm open to correction.

Nowlan is brilliant. I like Wexford Park higher than they rated it actually, and if they were taking the whole experience into it (town, etc) it’s top 5.

Love a match in Armagh too, definitely deserved it’s standing.

Billy Ocean

I've been to games in 11 of the venues, Tullamore another deserving of its high standing, the worst ive been to is Newbridge i'd even have Walsh Park ahead of it, never been to Drogheda but a 3,500 capacity says it all really.