How long before Irish reunification? (Part 2) Threadbans in OP

FrancieBrady wrote: »

My opinion has always been that the majority here see us as an independent sovereign state in a partitioned country. That is why they will vote to unite it again.

Again, I could care less what somebody who supports partition calls the partitioned bit.

Well Northern Ireland is not your country. You are an outsider and most would see you as so.

RobMc59 wrote: »

I agree.As an English person I don`t see Scottish,Northern Irish or Welsh people as any different from me-British.I also agree that boards can be a shock to the system and can give the impression that the Republic is inhabited exclusively by UK hating disgruntled republicans,which is`nt the case.The UK and Ireland are so alike it`s uncanny.

There is a spectrum of similarity, depending on the region. As a Unionist who has lived in Southern England I admit to finding the culture very foreign and not similar to here.

Scotland is very similar, more so than the southern half of this island.

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Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

You already have a united Ireland ffs. All 26 counties of it. Would you ever give up on trying to mooch a part of the UK. It really is no help to anyone at all.

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Poor effort

Natterjack from Kerry

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The point is, either you have to get rid of the GFA or accept it. The two sovereign states will unite Ireland if a majority want it.

You already have a united Ireland ffs. All 26 counties of it. Would you ever give up on trying to mooch a part of the UK. It really is no help to anyone at all.

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

What is your point? This has no relevance to my nationality and identity.

The point is, either you have to get rid of the GFA or accept it. The two sovereign states will unite Ireland if a majority want it.

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

And be assured that there are many here in the 26 that agree with you. Discussion on the topic probably gives the impression to those north of the border that the south is full of people obsessed with a UI. But there are many many of us more enlightened than that who fully recognise that you are in the UK, and not Ireland. Yet are still our closest relations. We share an island, are completely entwined culturally and historically, and there need be no more about it. We form different flavours of the British isles, and all regions in it are really the closest of siblings - the squabble by northern Ireland nationalists about being Irish or British really is getting upset about six of one or half dozen of the other. I am proud to call you our UK brothers in the north on our common island of Ireland.

Thank you. I appreciate it when people from ROI are willing to listen to and embrace the opinions of Northern Irish people.

I have witnessed a lot of arrogance from ROI politicians (particularly neale Richmond - so snarky.) They are seen as interfering and making things worse.

downcow wrote: »

This was the question Francie
“ would you say that a majority of people in Roi see the 26 counties as an independent country?”
I know you don’t like where it is going and you want to rescue the other poster, but why don’t you help him by answering it

My opinion has always been that the majority here see us as an independent sovereign state in a partitioned country. That is why they will vote to unite it again.

Again, I could care less what somebody who supports partition calls the partitioned bit.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well have a chat with your parents if still alive. The majority in both jurisdictions voted for it. Not even May or Boris dared break it, so it will be followed. In that agreement those who voted for it agreed to accept the will of the majority - i.e. what nationalists are doing now.

What is your point? This has no relevance to my nationality and identity.

maccored wrote: »

scotland should indeed be freed of britain - you are quite correct there.

Do you not think that should be a decision for the Scottish people rather than applying your Irish arrogance to it

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D are you gonna try claim now that a state administered via an International Agreement between two sovereign countries is 'independent' now as well as a country?

By the way, I couldn't care less what you call it.

This was the question Francie
“ would you say that a majority of people in Roi see the 26 counties as an independent country?”
I know you don’t like where it is going and you want to rescue the other poster, but why don’t you help him by answering it

Natterjack from Kerry

maccored wrote: »

not having to rely on another country's government

The UK does not rely on another country's government. It functions perfectly well and independently.

maccored

downcow wrote: »

Would you tell Nicola sturgeon that Scotland is not a country due to the Barnet formula

Facts are a pain in the ass!

scotland should indeed be freed of britain - you are quite correct there.

maccored

downcow wrote: »

I wasn’t asking about basic requirements. I was asking what makes a place a country? Simple question

not having to rely on another country's government

downcow wrote: »

Sometime you just have to call a spade a spade.

But let’s check out your nonsense criteria. tell me, would you say that a majority of people in Roi see the 26 counties as an independent country?

:D are you gonna try claim now that a state administered via an International Agreement between two sovereign countries is 'independent' now as well as a country?

By the way, I couldn't care less what you call it.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You asked (twice),what was necessary to make a country,i outlined some criteria,i felt was reasonable

Unable to counter,yous choose to label it as subjective nonsemse to shut down debate,on a subject,yous.brought in

Sometime you just have to call a spade a spade.

But let’s check out your nonsense criteria. tell me, would you say that a majority of people in Roi see the 26 counties as an independent country?

RobMc59 wrote: »

I agree.As an English person I don`t see Scottish,Northern Irish or Welsh people as any different from me-British.I also agree that boards can be a shock to the system and can give the impression that the Republic is inhabited exclusively by UK hating disgruntled republicans,which is`nt the case.The UK and Ireland are so alike it`s uncanny.

I'd agree, a lot don't wear it on their sleeve. But make no mistake, come a border poll what the outcome on this side will be. I know lots of people who utterly detest SF who will never pass an opportunity to vote for a UI.

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downcow wrote: »

Ireland is a tiny insignificant backwater in world terms. Why would anyone want to belong to it when they can belong to one of the biggest economies in the world

Ireland is an integral part of the EU, the world’s second largest economy. By your own logic (of favouring bigger economies), you should be delighted at the prospect of belonging to Ireland. :-)

RobMc59

Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »

And be assured that there are many of here in the 26 that agree with you. Discussion on the topics probably give the impression to those north of the border that the south is full of people obsessed with a UI. But there are many many of us more enlightened than that who fully recognise that you are in the UK, and not Ireland. Yet are still our closest relations. We share an island, are completely entwined culturally and historically, and there need be no more about it. We form different flavours of the British isles, and all regions in it are really the closest of siblings - the squabble by northern Ireland nationalists about being Irish or British really is getting upset about six of one or half dozen of the other. I am proud to call you your our UK brothers in the north on our common island of Ireland.

I agree.As an English person I don`t see Scottish,Northern Irish or Welsh people as any different from me-British.I also agree that boards can be a shock to the system and can give the impression that the Republic is inhabited exclusively by UK hating disgruntled republicans,which is`nt the case.The UK and Ireland are so alike it`s uncanny.

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ulster wrote: »

There is a sizeable percentage of people in NI who want to belong to Ireland. It's growing all the time.

Growing? That isn’t what the results in NI of the last U.K. GE showed.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Id say having a functioning parliment for omw....stormont geos years without sitting

Having a functioning society.....northern ireland has given half its existance in near civil war

Having majority of population living there recognise it as a country.....what is % claiming NI identity

Not a country,a jokeshop

That just about sums up how you operate. A load of subjective nonsense that means nothing. I guess your politics wouldn’t work if you didn’t employ those tactics.

Pathetic really!

Natterjack from Kerry

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

I don’t care what you call it. It’s my country and my home, not Ireland.

And be assured that there are many here in the 26 that agree with you. Discussion on the topic probably gives the impression to those north of the border that the south is full of people obsessed with a UI. But there are many many of us more enlightened than that who fully recognise that you are in the UK, and not Ireland. Yet are still our closest relations. We share an island, are completely entwined culturally and historically, and there need be no more about it. We form different flavours of the British isles, and all regions in it are really the closest of siblings - the squabble by northern Ireland nationalists about being Irish or British really is getting upset about six of one or half dozen of the other. I am proud to call you our UK brothers in the north on our common island of Ireland.

RobMc59 wrote: »

Thats strange..I could have sworn it was von der leyen who was willing to endanger it until put firmly back in her box.

Did it happen Rob? No it didn't. Get the point now?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well have a chat with your parents if still alive. The majority in both jurisdictions voted for it. Not even May or Boris dared break it, so it will be followed. In that agreement those who voted for it agreed to accept the will of the majority - i.e. what nationalists are doing now.

Boris did break it. It’s clearly broken by the Irish Sea border.

RobMc59

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well have a chat with your parents if still alive. The majority in both jurisdictions voted for it. Not even May or Boris dared break it, so it will be followed. In that agreement those who voted for it agreed to accept the will of the majority - i.e. what nationalists are doing now.

Thats strange..I could have sworn it was von der leyen who was willing to endanger it until put firmly back in her box.

ulster

downcow wrote: »

Ireland is a tiny insignificant backwater in world terms. Why would anyone want to belong to it when they can belong to one of the biggest economies in the world

There is a sizeable percentage of people in NI who want to belong to Ireland. It's growing all the time.

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

No. I was a baby.

Well have a chat with your parents if still alive. The majority in both jurisdictions voted for it. Not even May or Boris dared break it, so it will be followed. In that agreement those who voted for it agreed to accept the will of the majority - i.e. what nationalists are doing now.