FrancieBrady wrote: » So you are in fact saying that anyone who lays out the cause and the results of a military action...is justifying that action. A lot of people in the frame for justifying the Nazi's so. How astoundingly ridiculous.
markodaly wrote: » Yes you are, that is why you brought her up in the first place, to get some virtual backslaps and points, for 'Showing us!' By all means, keep using her, a victim of sexual assault, by the PIRA elite, as some trump card, but it just chips away at any lofty moral high ground you think you have. It is nauseating behaviour.
markodaly wrote: » As I said, you are not a Peter Taylor or a Dairmad Ferriter, you are a SF supporter on an internet forum. Very very different things. Just own your remarks Francie.
markodaly wrote: » Yes you are, that is why you brought her up in the first place, to get some virtual backslaps and points, for 'Showing us!' By all means, keep using her, a victim of sexual assault, by the PIRA elite, as some trump card, but it just chips away at any lofty moral high ground you think you have. It is nauseating behaviour. Still getting abuse for SF and their chums it seems.
markodaly wrote: » The end justifies the means = equivocation of PIRA actions and bombs.
Deleted User wrote: » Or indeed any of the neo conservative wars you supported. Not that the ends were justified anyway.
blanch152 wrote: » It makes you wonder what kind of individuals do this. The woman has suffered an awful lot in her life. The people around her in the republican movement, in Sinn Fein and the IRA, let her down badly, yet their supporters keep abusing her on social media platforms like this.
She has given a very clear account of her short time with dissident republicans - an entirely understandable reaction to her abusive treatment by the likes of Gerry Adams - and expressed real regret at her actions. Yet, we still see disgusting posts like McMurphys all over different forms of social media.
It is not like she is alone either. They have also questioned the veracity of people like Paudie McMahon who also suffered sexual abuse as children while part of the Sinn Fein and IRA community.
Nauseating isn't strong enough to describe the behaviour of these posters on social media.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I do own them. .
McMurphy wrote: » Can you please deal with the facts here.
blanch152 wrote: » It makes you wonder what kind of individuals do this. The woman has suffered an awful lot in her life. The people around her in the republican movement, in Sinn Fein and the IRA, let her down badly, yet their supporters keep abusing her on social media platforms like this. She has given a very clear account of her short time with dissident republicans - an entirely understandable reaction to her abusive treatment by the likes of Gerry Adams - and expressed real regret at her actions. Yet, we still see disgusting posts like McMurphys all over different forms of social media. It is not like she is alone either. They have also questioned the veracity of people like Paudie McMahon who also suffered sexual abuse as children while part of the Sinn Fein and IRA community. Nauseating isn't strong enough to describe the behaviour of these posters on social media.
markodaly wrote: » The fact that Maria Cahill was abused as a young girl (she wasn't even an adult) by the PIRA elites, who tried to hide the matter from the authorities and years later she still gets abuse from SF folk. And here you are using the same sexual abuse victim as some trump card for some virtual likes. Is that enough facts?
markodaly wrote: » And what wars do I support.... go on, which ones? :pac:
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Lot of anger here..... getting heated.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I do own them. I have never condoned any of the violence, either by being silent (like partitionists) or by supporting. I voted for SF, just like I have voted for almost all parties that stand in my constituency at one time or another. Unlike some, I am not hidebound to any particular party.
McMurphy wrote: » See you were burning the auld midnight oil this morning Brenner, hope you caught up on that missed out sleep bud.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Could have fooled a lot of folk here, a chara
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Had to strain the spuds Randal..... might take a little siesta in the arvo
markodaly wrote: » Grand, so the matter is finished then. You justify the killing of children by the PIRA, unless we hear otherwise. Let us move on.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » This is the exact point in the debate at which you lose all credibility. Classic deflection. You are the one who is refusing to answer Francie's question, not the other way around - and this is blindingly obvious to anyone watching from the sidelines.
markodaly wrote: » As I said, there is little to no remorse is shown by SF/PIRA, instead, we get revisionism, denial and olympian efforts to 'whatabout'.
markodaly wrote: » Deflection on what exactly, why the murders carried out by SF/PIRA can be 'explained' away as well, collateral damage, as something that was well, just inevitable, like the murder of Lyra McKee? As I said, there is little to no remorse is shown by SF/PIRA, instead, we get revisionism, denial and olympian efforts to 'whatabout'.
Deleted User wrote: » Theres no need to denialy,revisioism or anything,an inability to.acknowledge,that without partition,there wouldnt been any troubles,
markodaly wrote: » Yea, that is the Utopian nonsense that is peddled often. Partition is the root of all evil when they forget why partition exists in the first place. You forget about the 1 million-odd Unionists that live there. We have seen throughout history wars fought where smaller regions cede from a larger nation-state, from the Balkans to the African Continent from even our own experience with the Union of 1800.
stefanovich wrote: » Let's face it, the English and Irish have been fighting and invading each other since the 12th century we are inextricably linked and have much in common - much shared history. Yes the victorian's were cruel but they were cruel to their own as well.
blanch152 wrote: » Yes, we can start cherry picking.Go back to WW2, the Allied bombings were justified, and we were cowardly weasels for standing by and doing nothing. Similarly, during the IRA campaign, the ambivalent attitude of some of our govern,ents was a disgrace.
During the same period, 62 million civilians were killed. More than 34 million civilians died in World War II.
markodaly wrote: » Just tell your Republican friends that we were invaded by a) French-speaking Normans, not Brits or English or Anglo-Saxons b) They were invited by us!! :pac: They get awfully confused.
Deleted User wrote: » Kindly forgetting the uniomists living in the south aswell...looks obvious to me,without partition,the situation wouldnt habe decended into civil war....its pretty easy to compare and contrast with the south like......
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