BobMc wrote: » good shortcut for Nenagh turn off at Mountpelier for backroad to Birdhill, then old dublin rd or motorway, Misus drove it for years to work in Nenagh, not great at night, a road you'd learn if you know what I mean if travelled a lot, she did tear oil sump off car from huge rock dislodged from Lorry that rolled into road. But definate time saver for Nenagh direction - give the road a drive to both directions and try it at night too !