Dice75 wrote: » Martinez & Targett v Ings in my main bet. Small margins Ps - onside all day every day. Redic.
Jim Gazebo wrote: » Now Southampton should have had a pen, and the goal could have stood. The martinez owners can count themselves seriously lucky to be getting these points.
Ace2007 wrote: » Ah the offside rule is gone to pot - they draw so many lines to rule where ings is - but they don't spend any time on when Adams in this situation strikes the ball. I read an article at start of season that talked about the frames per second that they use in VAR. Cameras used by VAR run at 50 frames per second. One picture taken every 0.02 seconds. Therefore if they used pictures taken every 0.01 seconds, some of these "offside" decisions would be on.
Dice75 wrote: » Yep. If they showed the ref a freezeframe with no lines there on the VAR screen it would be given onside.
Fitz* wrote: » Martinez gets a CS & 3 saves so gets 3 bps. Cash gets a CS & 1 save but also gets 3 bps. The bps system is screwed!
CSF wrote: » How do you come to this conclusion? VAR is only supposed to overturn a refs decision if there is clear evidence the lino’s decision was wrong. I know people don’t like close offside decisions and they should probably look to change how it is done, but people acting like Southampton have been screwed by VAR on the offside is a bit mad.
Ace2007 wrote: » https://twitter.com/primevideosport/status/1355634765278420993 Hoping that embeds right - that's the still that they were drawing lines on - if you look at the ball it's blurred which means it has moved due to the Adams kicking it - it's not a still of the precise moment Adams touches it, instead it's a fraction of second after - hence it's blurred. Every tight call this season, they draw lines where the attacking player is - they never once look at the precise moment the ball is touched - why is that?
CSF wrote: » But you’re literally acknowledging it’s tight, and still want them to overturn the lino’s decision? That doesn’t make sense to me. That isn’t what VAR is there to do.
VAR will only be used for "clear and obvious errors" or "serious missed incidents" in four match-changing situations: – Goals – Penalty decisions – Direct red card incidents – Mistaken identity
Ace2007 wrote: » What is VAR's role in this? In this situation - how can the linesman make the call that it is offside? He literally cannot see that with the naked eye - and hence they have to draw multiple lines. Cancelo's goal last GW - again they have to draw lines. it wasn't clear and obvious mistake but they overruled the lineswomen.
CSF wrote: » No idea how the lino can see it in real time, but to be able to change the decision they have to use the lines, which don’t even overrule his decision. So how can they overturn it? Because it’s close?
eagle eye wrote: » This isn't really the thread for it but my belief is that the NFL review system is best. No lines used, you get to watch replays from multiple angles at game speed only. If a clear and obvious error has been made then it's changed but it has to be clear and obvious, if it's not the play stands as called on the field
Ace2007 wrote: » In this situation - how can the linesman make the call that it is offside? He literally cannot see that with the naked eye - and hence they have to draw multiple lines.
