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Nvidia RTX Discussion

K.O.Kiki

A new era in 3D graphics stands before us.

First-gen Raytracing GPUs:

Nvidia "Turing" - Quadro RTX 5000 / 6000 / 8000 (US$ 2'300 / 6'300 / 10'000)

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13214/nvidia-reveals-next-gen-turing-gpu-architecture
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13217/nvidia-announces-turing-powered-quadro-rtx-family

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Squall

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up about EVGA where else could I keep an eye out for a 3060ti or 3070?

Overclockers have a 3070 on sale at the moment provided you have a NI address and are happy to pay 230 over stock price

3070

slade_x

Squall wrote: »

Overclockers have a 3070 on sale at the moment provided you have a NI address and are happy to pay 230 over stock price

3070

I'd suggest when your posting affiliate links you don't try and hide the real url

real url: https://go.skimresources.com/?id=61111X1383796&isjs=1&jv=14.4.0-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D116067853%23post116067853&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclockers.co.uk%2Fgigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1cb-gi.html&xguid=01ERXBPZZBTJRAZ5ZSH0WD9E7Y&xs=1&xtz=0&xuuid=ce264f0da4333e02e952b12e093fbe72&xjsf=other_click__contextmenu%20%5B2%5D

Actual link: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1cb-gi.html

Spear

slade_x wrote: »

I'd suggest when your posting affiliate links you don't try and hide the real url

real url: https://go.skimresources.com/?id=61111X1383796&isjs=1&jv=14.4.0-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D116067853%23post116067853&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclockers.co.uk%2Fgigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1cb-gi.html&xguid=01ERXBPZZBTJRAZ5ZSH0WD9E7Y&xs=1&xtz=0&xuuid=ce264f0da4333e02e952b12e093fbe72&xjsf=other_click__contextmenu%20%5B2%5D

Actual link: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1cb-gi.html

Boards.ie added the referral link, not the user.

Squidgy Black

Yeah boards has been doing that for ages to me on mobile.

Squall

slade_x wrote: »

I'd suggest when your posting affiliate links you don't try and hide the real url

real url: https://go.skimresources.com/?id=61111X1383796&isjs=1&jv=14.4.0-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D116067853%23post116067853&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclockers.co.uk%2Fgigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1cb-gi.html&xguid=01ERXBPZZBTJRAZ5ZSH0WD9E7Y&xs=1&xtz=0&xuuid=ce264f0da4333e02e952b12e093fbe72&xjsf=other_click__contextmenu%20%5B2%5D

Actual link: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-vision-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1cb-gi.html

Yep... definitely wasn't me

slade_x

Squall wrote: »

Yep... definitely wasn't me

sorry, my apologies, annoys me when I see a random link flash in my browser's url bar, when previously hovering over the link to see a direct one

Samuel T. Cogley

Hmmm... seems the FE cards have gone MIA on nVidia's website.

minitrue

I still see the FE cards for the UK on the nvidia store? https://shop.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/

Cuddlesworth

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Hmmm... seems the FE cards have gone MIA on nVidia's website.

Been lots of talk that the FE cards are loss leaders. I'm starting to believe them.

minitrue

I doubt they are technically loss leaders but also doubt nvidia is making anything meaningful from them or that the AIBs could match their price and make any profit unless they cut every single possible corner to make a shockingly bad card. I'm pretty sure their only purpose is/was to provide a base price for reviewers to use when evaluating the bang-per-buck.

Cuddlesworth

minitrue wrote: »

I'm pretty sure their only purpose is/was to provide a base price for reviewers to use when evaluating the bang-per-buck.

Which is basically lying to consumers. Also, considering the complexity of the cooler, making a loss per unit or it being at cost seems very likely judging by the prices the other AIB cards are going for.

Metric Tensor

Totally agree. The FE is built like a tank has a bespoke board shape and the unusual fan configuration. The built quality seems to be rock solid too. There's no way this was the cheapest card on the market to produce and I'd guess it was one of the most expensive to put together. It's either at or below cost or else nvidia are making a massive profit on the chips they are selling to the AIBs.

minitrue

Lying to consumers aka standard marketing

I was basically agreeing with the guess they are about cost price, I just doubt they are risking a leak or financial statement which shows they were actually losing money on them. Of course the AIBs have to buy the chips from nvidia and there's no way they are selling them those without a healthy profit!

Lumen

Metric Tensor wrote: »

Totally agree. The FE is built like a tank has a bespoke board shape and the unusual fan configuration. The built quality seems to be rock solid too. There's no way this was the cheapest card on the market to produce and I'd guess it was one of the most expensive to put together. It's either at or below cost or else nvidia are making a massive profit on the chips they are selling to the AIBs.

I agree with the outstanding heft and apparent build quality, but the FEs are rock solid partly because of the lower power limits, which are left to the partners on the partner cards. They're conservative by design.

"Reference cards" should be good. A bit like cars which are supplied to work fine with normal service intervals in any climate, but which can be performance-tweaked by aftermarket tuners at the cost of reliability and economy. (this may be stretching the analogy a bit)

Metric Tensor

Lumen wrote: »

I agree with the outstanding heft and apparent build quality, but the FEs are rock solid partly because of the lower power limits, which are left to the partners on the partner cards. They're conservative by design.

"Reference cards" should be good. A bit like cars which are supplied to work fine with normal service intervals in any climate, but which can be performance-tweaked by aftermarket tuners at the cost of reliability and economy. (this may be stretching the analogy a bit)

I totally agree with all of that. (And the car analogy is a good one!) I have never bought a reference card before the 3080 because they didn't seem like a great proposition in terms of bang for buck.

But in this generation I think the FE cards seem to be right up there for value because the price point is low and build quality is high but also because the overclocking headroom in the 30 series seems to be quite small. The silicon seems to be almost at its limit at pretty much stock speeds - hence the unmerciful power draw!!!

minitrue

nvidia releases a reference design to the AIBs who use them for some of their cards, but for the 30 series FE cards they didn't use it themselves and made a better card.

Suffice to say I'm still happy I grabbed a 3070 FE months ago when I found myself with the chance and I snapped in no small part as it was clear from the earliest reviews the FE cards were being sold at what at best can be called a very aggressive price.

Metric Tensor

Very good point. The FE used to be the "reference" card but this generation the FE is not built on the reference design at all.

dreamers75

Installed GPU and new PSU today, shocked at how quiet it is. Was expecting helicopter levels with the 3 fans.

harmless

dreamers75 wrote: »

Installed GPU and new PSU today, shocked at how quiet it is. Was expecting helicopter levels with the 3 fans.

Having 3 fans combined with a large heatsink is what allows for low noise levels, the dual fan models are the loud ones.

Mr Crispy

More rumours about a 3080Ti or Super doing the rounds today, I see. All moot if they can't get them on virtual shelves!

TheValeyard

Out of all the RTX designs I do find the FE to be the best looking card. Really classy in a case. The other cards while probably better for OC and more, just do not look as nice to me.

Aodhan5000

This whole sh*te of founders edition cards being region locked is ridiculous. Got to LDLC site on time and threw a 3080 into my cart and opened up a chat asking if I could buy it if I provided a VAT number (in the hopes they weren't selling abroad as a result of tax related issues) but nope. So is Scan the only option for msrp cards? (Aware they aren't shipping here with DHL right now).

Metric Tensor

It arises out of Nvidia's own website being so sh!t that they had to shut it down and farm out the cards through local partners.

I don't know that there is any way if getting an FE in Ireland at the moment.

Luck100

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

This whole sh*te of founders edition cards being region locked is ridiculous. Got to LDLC site on time and threw a 3080 into my cart and opened up a chat asking if I could buy it if I provided a VAT number (in the hopes they weren't selling abroad as a result of tax related issues) but nope. So is Scan the only option for msrp cards? (Aware they aren't shipping here with DHL right now).

I saw the LDLC alert but I was tied up on a meeting. What's the issue with them? They won't ship to Ireland? Where are they based? Doesn't look like a UK site.

harmless

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

This whole sh*te of founders edition cards being region locked is ridiculous. Got to LDLC site on time and threw a 3080 into my cart and opened up a chat asking if I could buy it if I provided a VAT number (in the hopes they weren't selling abroad as a result of tax related issues) but nope. So is Scan the only option for msrp cards? (Aware they aren't shipping here with DHL right now).

I don't think scan are an option either even when delivery resumes.

They still refuse to register for VAT in Ireland so you have to pay 21% on top of the UK price that already includes 20% UK VAT.
That would bring the price of a 3080 FE to around €900 total cost delivered to Ireland from Scan.

harmless

Luck100 wrote: »

I saw the LDLC alert but I was tied up on a meeting. What's the issue with them? They won't ship to Ireland? Where are they based? Doesn't look like a UK site.

LDLC are the offical site for FE editions card sales in France, they do not ship FE cards to Ireland.

Currently none of the retailers for FE cards ship to Ireland.

K.O.Kiki

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galax-RTX-3090-HOF-24GB-OC-labs-edition-Preorder-28th-Feb-Dispatch/203265412951

"Total price is £2750 + PP, you will pay the rest on Feb 28th. Preorder is not refundable."

What a bargain :pac:

Aodhan5000

harmless wrote: »

I don't think scan are an option either even when delivery resumes.

They still refuse to register for VAT in Ireland so you have to pay 21% on top of the UK price that already includes 20% UK VAT.
That would bring the price of a 3080 FE to around €900 total cost delivered to Ireland from Scan.

I'm looking at buying through company so I'm thinking I could buy Ex VAT and reclaim Irish VAT when charged it on import

harmless

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

I'm looking at buying through company so I'm thinking I could buy Ex VAT and reclaim Irish VAT when charged it on import

That will probably work but FE cards are not an option for the average Irish consumer.

Does anyone know which AIB 3080 has the lowest MSRP?

TheValeyard

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galax-RTX-3090-HOF-24GB-OC-labs-edition-Preorder-28th-Feb-Dispatch/203265412951

"Total price is £2750 + PP, you will pay the rest on Feb 28th. Preorder is not refundable."

What a bargain :pac:

This kind of stuff annoys me. Bet ya he's not even a gamer.