James Brown wrote: » So what was your point you picked up off of Jingles post about cash? You never made a point, (neither did Jingles) just asked me questions. Again I stated IMO people swung from FF to FG and back again. In 2020 the swing away was due to the numerous crises. If you disagree that's cula bula. There was/is a housing/homeless/health crises. Well documented and we broke records in areas such as child homelessness. ******** As usual I see a discussion on societal crises has turned on the poster and shinners and bombs...desperate.
James Brown wrote: » I think SF will do as good but I can't see them getting a majority any time soon. Too many self interested people to let FF/FG go despite what damage they do on the whole. I think FG picking up the slack left by FF and vice versa will continue but I also don't see FF/FG getting a majority any time soon. We'll likely have a mish mash next government. We need hear more from the like of the SD's, PBP etc.
RandomViewer wrote: » The two old dolls are unlikely to stand again for the SDs so that'll be more or less it for them, PBP would not be my thing and they'd make a lot of others nervous as well,
Floppybits wrote: » The issue now is where do these people swing to now that both FF and FG are in government and are jointly responsible? Welcome to boards political discussion where someone will criticise the government the government supporters response will be yeah but what about the bombs and Northern Ireland rather than trying to defend the position as to why the government have gone a certain way and around and around we go. Oh yeah and if you hold a different opinion to those government parties then be prepared to be called a shinner even if you have never voted for them.
James Brown wrote: » Again I stated IMO people swung from FF to FG and back again. In 2020 the swing away was due to the numerous crises. If you disagree that's cula bula. There was/is a housing/homeless/health crises. Well documented and we broke records in areas such as child homelessness. ******** As usual I see a discussion on societal crises has turned on the poster and shinners and bombs...desperate.
Bishop of hope wrote: » An ever exposing world we live in. As time goes by and the Hurlers on the ditch get drawn in to the game it usually does expose their weakness. Some even have a weak game on the ditch, not management material, destined for ditch hurling. A lot happy with that too, make their living off of it, convince their listeners and advocators that because they can talk the game they should get something out of it. The manager and team out there playing the game, be it good or bad, while the ditchers talk away and pick up managers wages.
McMurphy wrote: » What percentage of TDs/Ministers would you say;Attack others with broken glasses in pubs? Try on dodgy insurance claims? Use 50k of ink cartridges. Claim for travel and other expenses you had no right to. Leak documents to their pals? Have a knees up at a golfing do while your subjects are locked down. Perform u-turns at Garda checkpoints, because they had a few pints? "Won a few bob on the horses', and (as a finance minister) "didn't have a bank account" Playing the system happens bish, whether it's Erica Fleming and her house hunting adventures, or Someone using the houses of the Oireachtas to phone their lover in Africa and only come clean when snared. I don't think anyone is saying it doesn't.
McMurphy wrote: » About 1.5 minutes bish, because I'm of an era where we learned how to use qwerty keyboards as part of our education system. I suppose if you focus on how long it took me to type out a very short post, it saves focusing on TDs/Ministers gaming the system too. No not all of them do, but the ones that take the proverbial, get exposed with media coverage, just like Fleming or Cash. Brenner, lets back it up a bit here, we're a nation literally built on the back of an uprising, an armed resistance up-rising.... Has any of our TDs/Ministers ever "constructed bombs"? Ummmmmmmm...... I think its quite probable horse....... Oh, hang on, maybe you meant present day, yeah? Id have to agree with you there so, Doubt it too.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Any of them construct bombs...? Doubt it.....surely not.
McMurphy wrote: » About 1.5 minutes bish, because I'm of an era where we learned how to use qwerty keyboards as part of our education system. I suppose if you focus on how long it took me to type out a very short post, it saves focusing on TDs/Ministers gaming the system too. No not all of them do, but the ones that take the proverbial, get exposed with media coverage, just like Fleming or Cash.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Did it take you long to compose that, I'm still not awake, rubbing my eyes on reading it in disbelief. Where's my tea? Just saying it as it is Mc, as you are. When you figure it out let me know, but they all make for good soapbox speeches and system playing and gaming.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Any of them construct bombs...?
Bishop of hope wrote: » So, what percentage would you say are gaming it? I'm sure there's more than one Margaret or Johnny cash. How do you decide whose gaming or entitled? The funny thing is, Margaret Cash was virtually sainted before her exposure by the people complaining that the govt weren't providing enough housing. The lads in tipp that wouldn't take the houses because there was no stables is another example. The whole ranting about it could be gaming, who knows?
James Brown wrote: » There is a system in place. Margret Cash gamed it. Margret Cash didn't take the house by force, it was given. What role does government play do you think? What is their job, point for existing, why we fund them? Bear with me, I'll answer your follow up. Again, what has this to do with people floating from FF to FG and back again?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » So you blame the parent in this case. Great now we're getting somewhere. Do you have all the evidence to blame all the other cases on the government?
James Brown wrote: » I'll answer it again if you like; the council/Margret cash. In this specific case I would find fault with the council caving in to a chancer. Likely some councillor put pressure on the council. What's Margret Cash got to do with the then FG/Lab and later FG/FF government exacerbating the child homeless problem to the point were records were broken? Or getting back to the point, that voters will drift between FF and FG?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » You're blaming the government on child homelessness. I'm not. That's my point. So will you answer my question now?
James Brown wrote: » Cash and the council awarded her a four bedroom house. What's your point, do you have a point?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Question.... Margaret Cash and her 5 homeless kids in the garda station. Do you blame Margaret? Or do you blame the government?
James Brown wrote: » Housing, health, child homelessness etc. The traditional record breaking crises, (Hopefully Covid will fade). These are the issues gave us the 2020 results we got IMO. So you are disputing FF did poorly in 2011 and FG did well and vice versa in 2020?
CrazyFather1 wrote: » Look's like ranting to me. No idea why either. Has anyone mentioned the Ceann Comhairle but you?
McMurphy wrote: » No, I'm not knocking anyone over "spelling", it was spelt correctly actually "crises" - it's the plural of "crisis" meaning singular. Telling someone to look up something when they made an error themselves is what I was getting at: 1 2 3 4 I rest my case. The Ceann Comhairle post wasn't a "rant" - I was simply regurgitating how some people on this site get ahead of themselves sometimes, despite obviously not knowing their elbows from their arses.
McMurphy wrote: » No, I'm not knocking anyone over "spelling", it was spelt correctly actually "crises" - it's the plural of "crisis" meaning singular. Telling someone to look up something when they made an error themselves is what I was getting at. The Ceann Comhairle post wasn't a "rant" - I was simply regurgitating how some people on this site get ahead of themselves sometimes, despite obviously not knowing their elbows from their arses.
CrazyFather1 wrote: » Not very nice to be mocking people over spelling IMO.
James Brown wrote: » Many voters went to SF and others. Most people vote for who they feel suits them at the time. The massive swing in 2020 was more about the crises than anything else IMO.
IAMAMORON wrote: » There was no Covid crisis until March, the election was in February.Look it up.
James Brown wrote: » What has covid got to do with it? I only mentioned it because it's factoring into our traditional ongoing record breaking crises.
IAMAMORON wrote: » You mentioned the " crises " pal? Look it up. .
And this post has what to do with the topic? No idea what a rant about the Ceann Comhairle is about?
IAMAMORON wrote: » I wasn't being insulting? But I felt pontificating over hypothetical scenarios was a bit of a stretch. I found it insulting personally. Particularly when there is 3 years of water to flow under the bridge in the meantime. I have been reading a lot of posts, stop daydreaming, stick to the facts.
