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FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

The throwaway comment is the nonsense that the poster attached, but you knew that, and you only responded in order to bait - won’t be going there.

blanch152 wrote:

Another Twitter link with an unrelated throwaway comment.

Yeh, sure, from the guy that debases twitter users whenever it suits him.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A plea for help is a 'throwaway comment' now? We enter the strange macabre world again.

The throwaway comment is the nonsense that the poster attached, but you knew that, and you only responded in order to bait - won’t be going there.

[Deleted User]

Some hope of building trust with the north for all ireland solution,when ffg are going about spreading lies about them

https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1353448674291032064

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Another Twitter link with an unrelated throwaway comment.

How are the two different statements from two different people at two different times in two different contexts related?

A plea for help is a 'throwaway comment' now? We enter the strange macabre world again.

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

How in God's name did michael Martin think they dodged a bullet on Covid? Looking at the reports of medical professionals on the front line it seems totally ad odds to what FFG ministers are saying.

https://twitter.com/boland_ronan/status/1353291553272455168?s=19

Another Twitter link with an unrelated throwaway comment.

How are the two different statements from two different people at two different times in two different contexts related?

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

People are staying at home, they always have when restrictions are in place. They respond to what the government ask them to do. That is why the curve is flattening. When the government ignored advice and lifted restrictions numbers soared. Fairly simple stuff.

Interesting report here too.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/covid-19-no-outbreaks-in-restaurants-and-pubs-with-majority-in-homes-and-schools-1055289.html

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

The important words are “please stay at home”

People are staying at home, they always have when restrictions are in place. They respond to what the government ask them to do. That is why the curve is flattening. When the government ignored advice and lifted restrictions numbers soared. Fairly simple stuff.

[Deleted User]

smurgen wrote: »

How in God's name did michael Martin think they dodged a bullet on Covid? Looking at the reports of medical professionals on the front line it seems totally ad odds to what FFG ministers are saying.

https://twitter.com/boland_ronan/status/1353291553272455168?s=19

The important words are “please stay at home”

smurgen

How in God's name did michael Martin think they dodged a bullet on Covid? Looking at the reports of medical professionals on the front line it seems totally ad odds to what FFG ministers are saying.

https://twitter.com/boland_ronan/status/1353291553272455168?s=19

McMurphy

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Oh sorry, I put up figures backing my claim.
Put up some backing the other and I'll agree we have a conflict worth arguing on.

The figures are there on the website, the figures that chose the option saying they thought the restrictions were too loose had more people choosing that option than any other.

If those figures represented seats in a council, they'd have the largest share of seats, ie the majority.

Are you really going to argue that?

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Oh sorry, I put up figures backing my claim.
Put up some backing the other and I'll agree we have a conflict worth arguing on.

You were asked to back up your 'screaming' remark. You failed.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ridiculous. You were caught out Bish.

Put up your poll Francie.
When you do I'll come back to you, otherwise I'll leave it there.

FrancieBrady

McMurphy wrote: »

That's certainly one way for you to make the poll say whatever you want it to say

However, the little problem there is that by your standards, the poll was loaded anyway, 3/4 options available essentially meant the same thing in your mind.

And none of them back up the 'screaming' lie in order to blame the people.

Bishop of hope

McMurphy wrote: »

That's certainly one way for you to make the poll say whatever you want it to say

However, the little problem there is that by your standards, the poll was loaded anyway, 3/4 options available essentially meant the same thing in your mind.

Oh sorry, I put up figures backing my claim.
Put up some backing the other and I'll agree we have a conflict worth arguing on.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

The majority were, nó deflecting the figures.
You put up schmaltz about a poll, didn't back it up or show any data for it.
Caught out with fake news again.
I seen one with references towards a stricter lockdown in early october. But we got tighter restrictions after that and that was likely because people wanted figures brought down so they could have at least a relatively normal Xmas.

Ridiculous. You were caught out Bish.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think it is you who are confused or you were lying about people 'screaming' for easing of restrictions.

And no, deflecting to SF will not cover your ass on that one.

The majority were, nó deflecting the figures.
You put up schmaltz about a poll, didn't back it up or show any data for it.
Caught out with fake news again.
I seen one with references towards a stricter lockdown in early october. But we got tighter restrictions after that and that was likely because people wanted figures brought down so they could have at least a relatively normal Xmas.

McMurphy

Bishop of hope wrote: »

It's grown?
42.3 isn't 42.9.
57.7 either agreed with it were going to do their own thing anyway or thought they were to strict.
To me that's a 15.4 majority who were against tighter restrictions for xmas lockdown.
Maybe you got confused like SF supporters after the election and thought your share of the vote was a majority in the Dáil.
I know, you guys get confused a lot.

That's certainly one way for you to make the poll say whatever you want it to say

However, the little problem there is that by your standards, the poll was loaded anyway, 3/4 options available essentially meant the same thing in your mind.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

42.9% is only a majority in Trump and SF land. For the rest of us, 50% plus one vote is a majority.

'the' majority in that poll blanch. Dear lord, you people. :rolleyes:

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

42.9% (the majority) say the restrictions are 'too loose'.

42.9% is only a majority in Trump and SF land. For the rest of us, 50% plus one vote is a majority.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

It's grown?
42.3 isn't 42.9.
57.7 either agreed with it were going to do their own thing anyway or thought they were to strict.
To me that's a 15.4 majority who were against tighter restrictions for xmas lockdown.
Maybe you got confused like SF supporters after the election and thought your share of the vote was a majority in the Dáil.
I know, you guys get confused a lot.

I think it is you who are confused or you were lying about people 'screaming' for easing of restrictions.

And no, deflecting to SF will not cover your ass on that one.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

42.9% (the majority) say the restrictions are 'too loose'.

It's grown?
42.3 isn't 42.9.
57.7 either agreed with it were going to do their own thing anyway or thought they were to strict.
To me that's a 15.4 majority who were against tighter restrictions for xmas lockdown.
Maybe you got confused like SF supporters after the election and thought your share of the vote was a majority in the Dáil.
I know, you guys get confused a lot.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

There was a poll in the journal. If you can't see the result you might have to vote in it.
But it was roughly 58% to 42% either in favour of the suggested Xmas restrictions or looser or going to do their own thing one way or another.
Thats along with my astute streetwise knowledge.

https://www.thejournal.ie/poll-happy-with-christmas-covid-restrictions-5301310-Dec2020/

42.9% (the majority) say the restrictions are 'too loose'.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I didn't say specifically for Christmas.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/most-people-want-more-not-fewer-restrictions-survey-shows-esri-expert-1.4372433

The public have complied with restrictions when they have to, in the main which suggests to me the ESRI are right.

I wasn't aware of any polling done that showed the public 'screaming' for restrictions to be lifted. Can you back up what you said?

There was a poll in the journal. If you can't see the result you might have to vote in it.
But it was roughly 58% to 42% either in favour of the suggested Xmas restrictions or looser or going to do their own thing one way or another.
Thats along with my astute streetwise knowledge.

https://www.thejournal.ie/poll-happy-with-christmas-covid-restrictions-5301310-Dec2020/

smurgen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ya, right. Then why did numbers rise so sharply after Christmas?

I'll come back to ya when you come back on my post at 16.06. you seem to have an awful problem answering questions.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

You mentioned a poll on this, can you link it.
People wanted tighter restrictions for xmas?

I didn't say specifically for Christmas.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/most-people-want-more-not-fewer-restrictions-survey-shows-esri-expert-1.4372433

The public have complied with restrictions when they have to, in the main which suggests to me the ESRI are right.

I wasn't aware of any polling done that showed the public 'screaming' for restrictions to be lifted. Can you back up what you said?

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Because the public were told it was ok to use hospitality and to mix at home. Now those who support FG and FF and the Greens want to blame them when FG and FF and the Greens ignored the expert advice and opened both.

You mentioned a poll on this, can you link it.
People wanted tighter restrictions for xmas?

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Ya, right. Then why did numbers rise so sharply after Christmas?

Because the public were told it was ok to use hospitality and to mix at home. Now those who support FG and FF and the Greens want to blame them when FG and FF and the Greens ignored the expert advice and opened both.

Bishop of hope

smurgen wrote: »

Can you blame them? Three extreme lockdowns down to 5km as a result of government policy. People are battle weary. They've done all they could.

What do you mean as a, result of govt policy?
I'm not sure how you qualify that statement as it seems everytime we come out of any level of lockdown the numbers go up.
So you're probably suggesting that we should have been in permanent level 5 lockdown?
If not I don't get your point and if we were would people not be well battle weary?

[Deleted User]

smurgen wrote: »

Can you blame them? Three extreme lockdowns down to 5km as a result of government policy. People are battle weary. They've done all they could.

Ya, right. Then why did numbers rise so sharply after Christmas?

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

What time is that Francie, before Xmas or after?

Before. The public have responded in the main to lockdowns Bish. Incontrovertible fact, they have brought the numbers down each time.