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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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RoryMac

pgj2015 wrote: »

That is up to him. he wont be loving how he is feeling now so it might drive him on to rectify things.

It is up to him and I don't see it happening.

I have no doubt he puts the effort into his camps but it seems he has control over the camps and what they work on rather than Kavanagh & Roddy. I don't see that changing and I don't think he is best placed to spot his weaknesses.

I don't see him fighting regularly enough to overcome his ring rust. I wouldn't expect him to fight again until Sept or Oct and that's likely to be a win or bust fight in terms of a shot at the title or a meaningless Diaz 3

pgj2015

RoryMac wrote: »

How realistic do you think that is to happen?

That is up to him. he wont be loving how he is feeling now so it might drive him on to rectify things.

RoryMac

pgj2015 wrote: »

inactivity? then he trains really hard for the next couple of years,cuts out the partying, maybe becomes a tea.to.tal.er, fighting lesser fighters and beating them convincingly using his old fighting style. he could do it if he wanted.

How realistic do you think that is to happen?

pgj2015

RoryMac wrote: »

Tough for both parties, there's going to be an element of doubt around how long McGregor can do these massive numbers now the air of invincibility is gone.

The losses to Diaz & Khabib could kind of be explained away with the Diaz fight being at WW and Khabib being a special fighter. This ko loss can't be talked away.

inactivity? then he trains really hard for the next couple of years,cuts out the partying, maybe becomes a tea.to.tal.er, fighting lesser fighters and beating them convincingly using his old fighting style. he could do it if he wanted.

RoryMac

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tough for who? Despite his loss, he's still a huge draw for the company. Are they going to let him walk out the door after the next fight?

Tough for both parties, there's going to be an element of doubt around how long McGregor can do these massive numbers now the air of invincibility is gone.

The losses to Diaz & Khabib could kind of be explained away with the Diaz fight being at WW and Khabib being a special fighter. This ko loss can't be talked away.

[Deleted User]

RoryMac wrote: »

How many fights are left on McGregor's UFC deal? I thought it was 3 a while back before the Cerrone fight which would leave him with 1 now. Might make for very tough negotiations for a new deal if correct

Tough for who? Despite his loss, he's still a huge draw for the company. Are they going to let him walk out the door after the next fight?

RoryMac

How many fights are left on McGregor's UFC deal? I thought it was 3 a while back before the Cerrone fight which would leave him with 1 now. Might make for very tough negotiations for a new deal if correct

yourdeadwright

froog wrote: »

i can't see mcgregor ever agreeing to not be the headliner on a card. i can't see him trying to grind a series of wins together either to repair/build a legacy at LW either. the hunger is not there. i'd say there's a good chance we don't see him again.

if he really wants to do something meaningful, he needs to switch camps. i mean it's telling that him and his team were saying this is the best version of mcgregor when it was clear to see it wasn't. surrounded by yes men and average coaches. move to america, do everything the coaches tell you and grind it out. but i doubt he has the hunger for that. then again, what else is going to do, whiskey ads for the rest of his life?

UFC will 100% make sure Conor the headliner

He gets paid pay per veiw % for evey fight

If they put other Champion or Super star as headliner and McGregor futher down the card they have to pay 2 people pay per veiw %,

It makes no financial sense for the UFC

chopperbyrne

What's the minimum layoff after a KO loss? Two months?

If he's serious about staying active, he can take two weeks off, then straight back into a full fight camp, and take any fight offered, just to get back on the grind.

Alf Veedersane

The Nal wrote: »

Amazing oversight really. So complacent. Talking about Khabib more than Dustin, talking about Pacquiao at the end of the year.

To be fair, the only times I saw him talk about Khabib or Pacquiao was when he was asked about them specifically.

froog

i can't see mcgregor ever agreeing to not be the headliner on a card. i can't see him trying to grind a series of wins together either to repair/build a legacy at LW either. the hunger is not there. i'd say there's a good chance we don't see him again.

if he really wants to do something meaningful, he needs to switch camps. i mean it's telling that him and his team were saying this is the best version of mcgregor when it was clear to see it wasn't. surrounded by yes men and average coaches. move to america, do everything the coaches tell you and grind it out. but i doubt he has the hunger for that. then again, what else is going to do, whiskey ads for the rest of his life?

The Nal

OneLungDavy wrote: »

I think this is the fight to make. Why do you say it's a horrible match for McGregor?

This

Every Charles Oliveira submission in the UFC!

OneLungDavy

The Nal wrote: »

Oliveira in particular is a horrible match up for him.

I think this is the fight to make. Why do you say it's a horrible match for McGregor?

The Nal

JJayoo wrote: »

Aldo looking at the fight....."leg kicks....why did I rush in"

Haha yeah and that was Aldos thing! Mind games. Aldo isn't the fizziest drink in the fridge.

RoryMac

rob316 wrote: »

Who though?
The money is going to become less, possibility of not main eventing the ppv.

He has built himself as a global superstar, he isn't going to swallow his pride and slog it out in the division.

Yeah just can't see him fighting 3 or 4 times against the contenders in LW to get back in contention. Some really tough guys around the top of the division who will all fancy their chances not the air of invincibility has been broken

rob316

Richard tea wrote: »

If he wants to keep fighting in MMA he needs to get back training asap and get a fight booked asap. If inactivity was an issue then there is no point sitting around for another 6 months. Is April too soon of a turnaround?

Who though?
The money is going to become less, possibility of not main eventing the ppv.

He has built himself as a global superstar, he isn't going to swallow his pride and slog it out in the division.

JJayoo

Aldo looking at the fight....."leg kicks....why did I rush in"

Richard tea

If he wants to keep fighting in MMA he needs to get back training asap and get a fight booked asap. If inactivity was an issue then there is no point sitting around for another 6 months. Is April too soon of a turnaround?

The Nal

rob316 wrote: »

Spent too much time talking about khabib and not the task at hand.

The rematch is gone now, he would of made insane money on it. That's all he wanted.

Assume the plan was to smash Poirier, get Khabib out of retirement for a big summer fight and then fight Manny in the winter. All out the window now.

He has to make a choice to give MMA a go 100% or pack it in. To keep his MMA career going hes looking at Ferguson, Gaethje, Dos Anjos, Felder and Hooker who are all coming off loses recently. So they won't be headline fights. Oliveira too whos the only one on a good run.

Oliveira in particular is a horrible match up for him.

[Deleted User]

rob316 wrote: »

It's all the more damaging of a defeat. This was meant to be a gimme, McGregor hugging him at the weigh in didn't see him as a threat.

Poirier took McGregor's best shot and then McGregor went down like a sack of spuds

In fairness to McGregor, he has silenced the "McTapper" crowd with this knockout loss.

hawaii501

He can't engage in any of the previous press conference antics anymore with what he's done over the last few years. He'd be ate alive by the opponent thats why its all hug and compliments now trying to persuade the public he's 'changed.

I'd bet any money if his opponent had been up for some of the allegations he is/was he would be the first to bring it up in the build-up of the fight because thats just the type of person he is!!

rob316

walshb wrote: »

McG is no fool

He knows that everyone he meets is a threat in the octagon..

He just wasn’t up to it earlier, and Dustin exposed this..

Spent too much time talking about khabib and not the task at hand.

The rematch is gone now, he would of made insane money on it. That's all he wanted.

walshb

The Nal wrote: »

Amazing oversight really. So complacent. Talking about Khabib more than Dustin, talking about Pacquiao at the end of the year.

Was the same last year with Cerrone. "The season" of McGregor and all that. One fight at a time there buddy.

Dunno. I think he was already looking past him. In all his fights up to Cerrone, he did the mind games thing, putting huge pressure on himself and rattled his opponent. I dunno if its a PR thing because of everything thats happened outside the Octagon but nice guy Conor isn't going to cut it. Maybe hes just grown up.

You got it...

All that forced trash and a scutter talk had to be binned due to the public reaction towards his behaviours...

Now it’s all forced nicey nice nonsense...

But that doesn’t mean Conor thought Dustin was no threat..

Conor said he put in a great camp and prepared hard..

He is just not at the level he was years ago...and may never get there again.

The Nal

rob316 wrote: »

It's all the more damaging of a defeat. This was meant to be a gimme, McGregor hugging him at the weigh in didn't see him as a threat.

Amazing oversight really. So complacent. Talking about Khabib more than Dustin, talking about Pacquiao at the end of the year.

Was the same last year with Cerrone. "The season" of McGregor and all that. One fight at a time there buddy.

walshb wrote: »

McG is no fool

He knows that everyone he meets is a threat in the octagon..

He just wasn’t up to it earlier, and Dustin exposed this..

Dunno. I think he was already looking past him. In all his fights up to Cerrone, he did the mind games thing, putting huge pressure on himself and rattled his opponent. I dunno if its a PR thing because of everything thats happened outside the Octagon but nice guy Conor isn't going to cut it. Maybe hes just grown up.

walshb

rob316 wrote: »

It's all the more damaging of a defeat. This was meant to be a gimme, McGregor hugging him at the weigh in didn't see him as a threat.

McG is no fool

He knows that everyone he meets is a threat in the octagon..

He just wasn’t up to it earlier, and Dustin exposed this..

rob316

weemcd wrote: »

Like clockwork. There must be some amount of lads who made a FORTUNE on this since they're now so sure McGregor was going to lose.

Funny you never hear them before the fight. Think the poll on the 257 thread had 10% predicting a Poirier KO. Didn't see anyone on the betting thread pick this either. Late KO or sub maybe...

It's all the more damaging of a defeat. This was meant to be a gimme, McGregor hugging him at the weigh in didn't see him as a threat.

Sweet.Science

cloudatlas wrote: »

How come Dustin did say after the fight that Conor was hurting him then? Should we shy away from condemning Conor, he's still a good fighter, he has tough competition in that division.

Good business . Hes learning.

[Deleted User]

Even the Brits don't want him

weemcd

Nigzcurran wrote: »

I love the experts that pile in after a defeat full of absolute scutter

Like clockwork. There must be some amount of lads who made a FORTUNE on this since they're now so sure McGregor was going to lose.

Funny you never hear them before the fight. Think the poll on the 257 thread had 10% predicting a Poirier KO. Didn't see anyone on the betting thread pick this either. Late KO or sub maybe...

cloudatlas

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Pretty much stop on, Guys who can take a punch and are bigger than him naturally are a nightmare
Dustin looked massive in there and Conor never hurt him
Although i think Conor would ko Chandler

How come Dustin did say after the fight that Conor was hurting him then? Should we shy away from condemning Conor, he's still a good fighter, he has tough competition in that division.