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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

Hulk Hands

The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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wirelessdude01

ballina1953 wrote: »

rumour than kevin mcloughlin is gone as well

I'd be surprised but also not surprised if this happened. New baby that was born during the second part of the league. I'd also guess that he wants to start paying more attention to the day job as well with a view to moving on up the ladder. He also has serious milage on the clock. Takes some amount of hits and due to his influence on games has taken alot of abuse off the ball as well.

ballina1953

rumour than kevin mcloughlin is gone as well

wirelessdude01

spakman wrote: »

And Ballygar is hardly a hurling stronghold!

Exactly. Junior B territory!!!

spakman

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Yeah, Pete was originally from Ballygar. Sound as a pound.

And Ballygar is hardly a hurling stronghold!

wirelessdude01

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Was wondering where his love of hurling came from and found it answered in an article.

Yeah, Pete was originally from Ballygar. Sound as a pound.

Utopia Parkway

westsidestory wrote: »

"I spoke to the hurling manager Derek Walsh at the beginning of the week as well. I said as long as I was able to give it a go I;d come back in with them. It's always been a passion of mine to play hurling as well."
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0128/1193728-keith-higgins-i-feel-lucky-to-have-had-so-long-at-it/

Was wondering where his love of hurling came from and found it answered in an article.

His father was a Galway man and it was from his influence that Higgins' grá for the small ball grew.

"It really came from my father I suppose. He's a Galway man originally, he moved down to Mayo and they kind of got hurling going down in Ballyhaunis there in the late 80s.

"When we were growing up, it was always Galway hurling games instead of Mayo football games. It's from his background more than anything."

westsidestory

feargale wrote: »

More to the point, how many Mayo and Roscommon hurlers would have been selected for Connacht if they were Galwaymen? Mayo and Roscommon were hardly allowed a look in. But a few of their best hurlers were poached.

I don't know if Keith Higgins intends to continue at club level, but I hope he gives the county hurlers another year or two or three. He would be a big loss to them, even at his age. And with the hurlers he would have so much less pressure, and maybe more enjoyment than he ever had.

"I spoke to the hurling manager Derek Walsh at the beginning of the week as well. I said as long as I was able to give it a go I;d come back in with them. It's always been a passion of mine to play hurling as well."
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0128/1193728-keith-higgins-i-feel-lucky-to-have-had-so-long-at-it/

feargale

Mayo_fan wrote: »

On a related topic, Tooreen‘a Joe Henry is mentioned in this article

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/accidents-of-birth-and-the-peter-otoole-of-hurling-the-top-50-hurlers-who-missed-out-on-all-star-glory-40020735.html

“ 47 JOE HENRY (Mayo)

He won three Railway Cup medals with a Galway-dominated Connacht team in the 1980s. How many All-Stars would he have won if he were born in Galway?”

More to the point, how many Mayo and Roscommon hurlers would have been selected for Connacht if they were Galwaymen? Mayo and Roscommon were hardly allowed a look in. But a few of their best hurlers were poached.

I don't know if Keith Higgins intends to continue at club level, but I hope he gives the county hurlers another year or two or three. He would be a big loss to them, even at his age. And with the hurlers he would have so much less pressure, and maybe more enjoyment than he ever had.

[Deleted User]

On a related topic, Tooreen‘a Joe Henry is mentioned in this article

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/accidents-of-birth-and-the-peter-otoole-of-hurling-the-top-50-hurlers-who-missed-out-on-all-star-glory-40020735.html

“ 47 JOE HENRY (Mayo)

He won three Railway Cup medals with a Galway-dominated Connacht team in the 1980s. How many All-Stars would he have won if he were born in Galway?”

MfMan

Mayodad wrote: »

Did Michael Coleman from Annaghdown play football as well as hurling for Galway??
He's the only one I can think of that might have won both.

No, you're thinking probably of Mattie (football, 0 AI) and brother Michael (hurling, 1 AI) from Monivea/Abbey. Mattie lives in Annaghdown for whom his son Niall played football (and for Galway).

Blackjack

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

You see Connacht did not win a Railway Cup in football between 1969 and 2014 so anyone who had a Hurling and football medal before Higgins was way in the past.

If Wikipedia is reliable, then Connacht won hurling in 1947, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1994, 1999, 2004.
Football was 1934, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1951, 1957, 1958, 1967, 1969, 2014.

Going by that, unless there was a hurler in 1947, or at a stretch 2004 who has a medal in the football too, I think Higgins would indeed be the only one from Connacht with a winners medal in both.

[Deleted User]

Blackjack wrote: »

Did both teams win though?. I think that's where the surprise lies for many - there were probably more than a few that played for both, but there seems to have been only the one that won the competition in both codes.

You see Connacht did not win a Railway Cup in football between 1969 and 2014 so anyone who had a Hurling and football medal before Higgins was way in the past.

seligehgit

There's never been a better time for a Mayo club footballer aspiring to play at the highest level with the plethora of retirements.

Matthew Flanagan is a goalkeeper who in past times I'd have thought is another who'd be worthy of consideration.

David Mc Brien has been mentioned,ditto Jack Coyne.

Any thoughts on Seamus Cunniffe?

O Donoghue and Harrison would be starters in the full back line.Eoin O Donoghue IMO would grow into the position.

Frank Irwin if we can hold onto him is a midfield superstar in the making.Not convinced Stephen Coen is suited long term to a role i lar na pairce,ditto Conor Loftus.

Some great shouts for up front.

Orme for such a young lad has that je ne sais quoi,that something different.Towey is another very talented player,Mark Moran.

Can Peter Naughton not jump ship and return to his native county if he was extended an offer?

What's the story with Ethan Henry?

There's a lot of very talented young players...Paddy Heneghan is another that comes to mind.Castlebar Mitchels have a number of promising young forwards,can they make the transition?

TBF I firmly believe James Horan will scour the county for new talent and leave no stone unturned.

Blackjack

Cartman78 wrote: »

Nice one.

Hopefully every member of the panel makes a similar social media announcement for no other reason other than to p1ss off Joe Brolly

I wouldn't be worried about what that proven spoofer has to say.

Cartman78

km79 wrote: »

http://twitter.com/radiomidwest/status/1353639215851048960

Nice one.

Hopefully every member of the panel makes a similar social media announcement for no other reason other than to p1ss off Joe Brolly

Blackjack

Jizique wrote: »

Alan Kerins played for both

Did both teams win though?. I think that's where the surprise lies for many - there were probably more than a few that played for both, but there seems to have been only the one that won the competition in both codes.

Jizique

Mayodad wrote: »

Did Michael Coleman from Annaghdown play football as well as hurling for Galway??
He's the only one I can think of that might have won both.

Alan Kerins played for both

RedDevil55

Mayodad wrote: »

What are everyone's thoughts about our options regarding replacements for the retirees?
My thoughts but not in order of preference are as follows.
Goalie:
1. Colm Reape
2. Robbie
3. Jamie Mc Nicholas
4. Conor o Malley
As an outsider I'll throw in Alan Mc Callig from Claremorris. I think he played FBD A few years ago and when I've seen him in club games he seems very vocal and commanding around the square. He has a great kickout and could easily drive it past midfield.
Corner backs:
1. Rory Brikenden
2. Eoin o Donohue
3. Jack Coyne
4. Stephen Coen
5. Enda Version

Midfield:
1. Frank Irwin
2. Evan o Brien
3. Oisín Mullin
4. Eoghan McLaughlin
5. James Mc Cormack
6. Conor o Shea

Forwards:
1. Paul Towey
2. Conal Dempsey
3. Aidan Orme
4. Conor Disk in
5. Peter naughton
6. Darren Mc Hale

I'd like to see Reape in goals for a few league games. No guarantee he'll make the grade, but he offers something different to every other goalkeeper available.

Stephen Coen and Enda Hession aren't natural corner backs which is what we need. I'd like David McBrien to get a run there during the league. Haven't seen much of Jack Coyne but Horan has name checked him a few times. Aside from that Eoin O'Donoghue and a fit Brendan Harrison would be our best bets.

Stephen Coen could be suited to midfield alongside Mattie Ruane. We could then put Oisín Mullin or Keegan in the half back line. Jack Carney Kilmeena could be another option in midfield.

wirelessdude01

Mayodad wrote: »

What are everyone's thoughts about our options regarding replacements for the retirees?
My thoughts but not in order of preference are as follows.
Goalie:
1. Colm Reape
2. Robbie
3. Jamie Mc Nicholas
4. Conor o Malley
As an outsider I'll throw in Alan Mc Callig from Claremorris. I think he played FBD A few years ago and when I've seen him in club games he seems very vocal and commanding around the square. He has a great kickout and could easily drive it past midfield.
Corner backs:
1. Rory Brikenden
2. Eoin o Donohue
3. Jack Coyne
4. Stephen Coen
5. Enda Version

Midfield:
1. Frank Irwin
2. Evan o Brien
3. Oisín Mullin
4. Eoghan McLaughlin
5. James Mc Cormack
6. Conor o Shea

Forwards:
1. Paul Towey
2. Conal Dempsey
3. Aidan Orme
4. Conor Disk in
5. Peter naughton
6. Darren Mc Hale

Conor O'Shea - doubtful he will get another chance. Similar to Jason Gibbons in that he looks the part at club level but the step up to pace and intensity of IC seems to just be above him.

Peter Naughton - hasn't he thrown his lot in with Sligo?

Conor Diskin - This is one player who if is he is willing to do what is needed really could make a mark at IC level. Application and attitude though are suspect.

Mayodad

What are everyone's thoughts about our options regarding replacements for the retirees?
My thoughts but not in order of preference are as follows.
Goalie:
1. Colm Reape
2. Robbie
3. Jamie Mc Nicholas
4. Conor o Malley
As an outsider I'll throw in Alan Mc Callig from Claremorris. I think he played FBD A few years ago and when I've seen him in club games he seems very vocal and commanding around the square. He has a great kickout and could easily drive it past midfield.
Corner backs:
1. Rory Brikenden
2. Eoin o Donohue
3. Jack Coyne
4. Stephen Coen
5. Enda Hession

Midfield:
1. Frank Irwin
2. Evan o Brien
3. Oisín Mullin
4. Eoghan McLaughlin
5. James Mc Cormack
6. Conor o Shea

Forwards:
1. Paul Towey
2. Conal Dempsey
3. Aidan Orme
4. Conor Disk in
5. Peter naughton
6. Darren Mc Hale

km79

http://twitter.com/radiomidwest/status/1353639215851048960

Mayodad

Did Michael Coleman from Annaghdown play football as well as hurling for Galway??
He's the only one I can think of that might have won both.

[Deleted User]

Higgins is and was a class act, that goal in croke park against Roscommon was something else. A lot of experience leaving the squad.

All this staggered retirement announcements feels a bit destabilising, hopefully anymore will get it done and dusted so we can see what we have to pick from next year. Plenty of jerseys up for play in the squad for some of the younger lads

yop

threeball wrote: »

Don't know how you can make that statement. He never played top level club never mind intercounty. Theres a world of difference between a top level player in Mayo and being one in KK, Tipp or Galway. Loads of lads look like superheros in their own limited world but very quickly find out the next level is light years away.
I'm not saying he couldn't but saying he would be a fixture with a top level counties seniors is fantasyland.

Great footballer by the way, but very different codes.

Didn't he play railway cup for Connacht and put in a top performance.
Tweet from kilkenny's Richie Power

This man could have graced any hurling field in the Country as well as being one of the best to kick the big ball. One of my favourite ballers to play the game. Enjoy retirement @keithhiggins7

wirelessdude01

threeball wrote: »

Don't know how you can make that statement. He never played top level club never mind intercounty. Theres a world of difference between a top level player in Mayo and being one in KK, Tipp or Galway. Loads of lads look like superheros in their own limited world but very quickly find out the next level is light years away.
I'm not saying he couldn't but saying he would be a fixture with a top level counties seniors is fantasyland.

Great footballer by the way, but very different codes.

I know Canning through my cousins and he has mentioned Zippy as someone he wished was from Galway. That's good enough for me.

Sebastian Dangerfield

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

My dad also has that from a former county board member. Said he is staying for another year. Feels he was close this year and would have made it onto the field in the final but for the broken finger.

A fit Boyle rather than Plunkett would have made for a different game IMO.

threeball

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

If he had been from a traditional hurling county he would have been a fixture with their seniors. Hurling was/is his love, football was something he tolerated!!!

Don't know how you can make that statement. He never played top level club never mind intercounty. Theres a world of difference between a top level player in Mayo and being one in KK, Tipp or Galway. Loads of lads look like superheros in their own limited world but very quickly find out the next level is light years away.
I'm not saying he couldn't but saying he would be a fixture with a top level counties seniors is fantasyland.

Great footballer by the way, but very different codes.

wirelessdude01

Audioslaven wrote: »

Boyle is waiting by all accounts.

My dad also has that from a former county board member. Said he is staying for another year. Feels he was close this year and would have made it onto the field in the final but for the broken finger.

Audioslaven

Cartman78 wrote: »

Ah ffs.... that's another tough one to take...I thought we were out of the retirement woods.

Boyle seems like the last man standing now...

Boyle is waiting by all accounts.

happyoutscan

An absolute legend of the Green and Red.