FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

markodaly wrote: »

LOL, a report from last SEPTEMBER!!!

Come off it, just do the Math on this. Today is the 21st of January 2021

1,671 deaths in NI
2,818 deaths in the ROI

NI Population 1.885 million
ROI Population 4.937 million

NI Deaths per million 886
ROI Deaths per million 567

Its a FACT!

Then again, you think in economics you can have negative Market Caps..still waiting for that nugget of an explanation.

Ireland maths are wrong there chief without even looking into how false the numbers are. Must be one of them recently unemployed trump staffers!

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

"Disproportionate." Blood on his hands more like.

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1352229849054801920?s=19

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1352313605816000514?s=19

There aren’t enough hotel rooms, I already explained that to you, and you would be putting thousands of hotel workers at risk by forcing them to go back to work to look after them.

Your idea would kill more people than it would save.

blanch152

RandomViewer wrote: »

Members ,not TDs, you know who I'm on about and I suspect you knew both the victim and the coluders

This is a new one to me. I’m all ears, this thread seems to have gone into the Twilight Zone tonight.

markodaly wrote: »

Oh sorry, you mean you want the freedom to post lies, falsehoods and outright misinformation and NOT be called on it? Is that what you want?

Hilarious.

Answer the previous question please.

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

Death per million skew in favor of the larger counties. Why do you think the likes of lichtenstein are always regarded as the worst? Besides the point anyway. We're still in the world's worst tables. Is that acceptable to you? Do you support criminal negligence by a government?

Say what????

Can you explain this to me in simple English.

This is a candidate to beat Bowie’s explanation of developers building houses for the State on a non-profit basis.

Deaths per million skew in favour of the bigger states????????!!!!!?????

markodaly wrote: »

LOL, a report from last SEPTEMBER!!!

Come off it, just do the Math on this. Today is the 21st of January 2021

1,671 deaths in NI
2,818 deaths in the ROI

NI Population 1.885 million
ROI Population 4.937 million

NI Deaths per million 886
ROI Deaths per million 567

Its a FACT!

Then again, you think in economics you can have negative Market Caps..still waiting for that nugget of an explanation.

Death per million skew in favor of the larger counties. Why do you think the likes of lichtenstein are always regarded as the worst? Besides the point anyway. We're still in the world's worst tables. Is that acceptable to you? Do you support criminal negligence by a government?

smurgen wrote: »

Also who are you to ask questions. Tell me. ?

Oh sorry, you mean you want the freedom to post lies, falsehoods and outright misinformation and NOT be called on it? Is that what you want?

Hilarious.

smurgen wrote: »

Nope.

"If we weigh the North’s age-specific Covid mortality rates using the Republic’s population distribution (a process known as age adjustment), then Covid-19 mortality rate in the North is 35.6 per 100,000. Or if we did the reverse, the Republic’s age adjusted mortality rate would be 45.0 per 100,000"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/covid-19-how-northern-ireland-has-fared-better-than-the-republic-of-ireland-1.4351612%3fmode=amp

LOL, a report from last SEPTEMBER!!!

Come off it, just do the Math on this. Today is the 21st of January 2021

1,671 deaths in NI
2,818 deaths in the ROI

NI Population 1.885 million
ROI Population 4.937 million

NI Deaths per million 886
ROI Deaths per million 567

Its a FACT!

Then again, you think in economics you can have negative Market Caps..still waiting for that nugget of an explanation.

DaveCliftonAP

smurgen wrote: »

Nope.

"If we weigh the North’s age-specific Covid mortality rates using the Republic’s population distribution (a process known as age adjustment), then Covid-19 mortality rate in the North is 35.6 per 100,000. Or if we did the reverse, the Republic’s age adjusted mortality rate would be 45.0 per 100,000"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/covid-19-how-northern-ireland-has-fared-better-than-the-republic-of-ireland-1.4351612%3fmode=amp

Got anything more recent than September?

markodaly wrote: »

You didn't answer my question.

SF are in government with other parties.
FG are in government with other parties.

If/When SF are in government here in the south, they will be in government with other parties....
That is a given.

Anyway, by your logic, SF have more blood on their hands since more people have died per captia in the North than the South.
Do you accept that?

Also who are you to ask questions. Tell me. You support lockdowns costing billions and hundreds of deaths due to an inept government? You support lobbying by vested interest to allow transit of cheap labour in and out of the country during a pandemic?

markodaly wrote: »

You didn't answer my question.

SF are in government with other parties.
FG are in government with other parties.

If/When SF are in government here in the south, they will be in government with other parties....
That is a given.

Anyway, by your logic, SF have more blood on their hands since more people have died per captia in the North than the South.
Do you accept that?

Nope.

"If we weigh the North’s age-specific Covid mortality rates using the Republic’s population distribution (a process known as age adjustment), then Covid-19 mortality rate in the North is 35.6 per 100,000. Or if we did the reverse, the Republic’s age adjusted mortality rate would be 45.0 per 100,000"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/covid-19-how-northern-ireland-has-fared-better-than-the-republic-of-ireland-1.4351612%3fmode=amp

smurgen wrote: »

DUP. FG buddies. Two parties putting the welfare of the entire island at stake.

You didn't answer my question.

SF are in government with other parties.
FG are in government with other parties.

If/When SF are in government here in the south, they will be in government with other parties....
That is a given.

Anyway, by your logic, SF have more blood on their hands since more people have died per captia in the North than the South.
Do you accept that?

RandomViewer wrote: »

Members ,not TDs, you know who I'm on about and I suspect you knew both the victim and the coluders

I sincerely have no notion what you are on about.

My cards are on the table.

I think you are engaging in some sort of pathetic mud slinging exercise to be honest.

markodaly wrote: »

Well I guess, since the death rates in NI are higher, where SF are in government also means SF have more blood on their hands?

Am I right?

DUP. FG buddies. Two parties putting the welfare of the entire island at stake.

RandomViewer wrote: »

Members ,not TDs, you know who I'm on about and I suspect you knew both the victim and the coluders

No, I don't have any idea what you are on about. So, go tell us.

This is not the first time you have made up absolute lies either.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Go on .... enlighten me.

Was it Alan Dukes, Mickey Noonan or Gary himself?

Go on, which one of those bad boys was it?

Members ,not TDs, you know who I'm on about and I suspect you knew both the victim and the coluders

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IAMAMORON wrote: »

You can bow out any time you like?

I will after this - seeing as you're still saying I said something I didn't and trying to quote out of context (you'll probably continue to do after this too, but anyway....)

Two organisations (the IRA and the current government) are responsible for what I think are needless deaths. You appeared to condemn one organisation but not the other. I condemn both. I didn't "compare" anything, you were the one who compared the means as to how both cohorts of needless deaths came about

Good evening

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG members coluded in the murder of an elected councillor,

Go on .... enlighten me.

Was it Alan Dukes, Mickey Noonan or Gary himself?

Go on, which one of those bad boys was it?

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG happily supported loyalist killings, one of their old benefactors supplied them weapons, FG members colluded with loyalists in more than one murder possibly a lot more, ,

Elaborate on this nonsense, please.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Utter garbage.

Put the bottle away.

FG members coluded in the murder of an elected councillor,

smurgen wrote: »

FFG have blood on their hands and hopefully going to be held accountable for it. They will be decimated and I mean decimated in the next election.

Well I guess, since the death rates in NI are higher, where SF are in government also means SF have more blood on their hands?

Am I right?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

There is a difference between obeying the law and acting responsibly as a citizen.

The government can't wipe everyones' hole in the morning? Surely?

So allowing people with the Brazilian Covid into general population is fine by you, so you can have cheap horse burgers?

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG happily supported loyalist killings, one of their old benefactors supplied them weapons, FG members colluded with loyalists in more than one murder possibly a lot more, they've acted hand in hand with organised criminals for decades blood on their hands from HepC and cervical cancer, covered for abusers in West Donegal for decades,

Utter garbage.

Put the bottle away.

CarProblem wrote: »

No I didn't

Yes you did.......

CarProblem wrote: »

Give it time, by the time this pandemic is over the government may well be to blame (IMO of course, I'm just some random nobody, but also in the opinions of a lot of scientific/medical experts) for more needless and avoidable deaths that the IRA ever was

You can bow out any time you like?

IAMAMORON wrote: »

That's all well and good not having enough interest in all Ireland politics.

But you also compared the deliberate massacring of pensioners via orchestrated street bombings initiated by the IRA with comtemporary Free State government decisions?

What are you getting at exactly?

FG happily supported loyalist killings, one of their old benefactors supplied them weapons, FG members colluded with loyalists in more than one murder possibly a lot more, they've acted hand in hand with organised criminals for decades blood on their hands from HepC and cervical cancer, covered for abusers in West Donegal for decades,

CarProblem wrote: »

you can use whatever logic you want and draw whatever conclusions you want

It is my opinion that the present government is responsible for 100s if not 1000s of unnecessary & completely avoidable deaths, not saying every Covid death, but many, many that did not have to happen

They are. Won't close the airports or not enforcing quarantine is like your house flooding and not turning off the mains cause the floor is already wet. Their stance alone is downplaying the seriousness of the situation we are in.

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IAMAMORON wrote: »

But you also compared the deliberate massacring of pensioners via orchestrated street bombings initiated by the IRA with comtemporary Free State government decisions?

No I didn't, I'm asking why are some unnecessary deaths worthy of condemnation but others not? The government was warned repeatedly since February 2020 of the consequences of its actions / planned actions yet went ahead and took those actions anyhow resulting in "massacring of pensioners" if we want to try and manipulate with emotive language

As you appear to be well named I'll bow out having said my piece

RandomViewer wrote: »

So are you saying the public should go to the airports and ports and block any coming in because the government cant be bothered arranging it, making sure Larry's meat workers get back from holidays in Brazil unheeded,

There is a difference between obeying the law and acting responsibly as a citizen.

The government can't wipe everyones' hole in the morning? Surely?

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CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Using that logic we have a lot of mass murders running all of the countries in the World
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

you can use whatever logic you want and draw whatever conclusions you want

It is my opinion that the present government is responsible for 100s if not 1000s of unnecessary & completely avoidable deaths, not saying every Covid death, but many, many that did not have to happen