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Good calving cameras / security cameras

Tig98

Im away getting a degree and so my input on the home farm is gone way way down. I do feel a degree of guilt about leaving the work up to my father, but at the end of the day Ive to do my own thing too.

I was thinking itd be a nice idea to get some calving cameras set up for the spring, itd take some bit of pressure off him if he didn't have to get dressed and go down to check the cows in the small hours. Does anyone have any good recommendations? Theres a good 150 meters between the house and the calving shed, so I don't think WiFi cameras would be much good. Hassle of laying a physical wire that distance though and trying to mind it isnt ideal either.

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Hard Knocks

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I don't think that switch has PoE so each camera would require its own power feed.

You'd want this one - just need to ensure that the sum of the power demands of your cameras does not exceed the max rating of the switch (in this case 55W):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B072BDGQR8/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=powered%2Bethernet%2Bswitch%2BPOE&qid=1612181559&s=computers&sr=1-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFORFVLNTdGTFRYUkkmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4MzQ4MDQyNEpXSFJXRElOWFlZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1MjIxMjNHTDBaNFRYNjBJMEwmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

Should not need to be same brand and there is no integration into a DVR/PVR.

It is setting up a network in your shed - you could connect a printer or a laptop or whatever you want into the switch and it should work.

Thanks
Saw this for power requirement on a camera

Operating Power: DC12V;PoE(802.3af) DNR: 3D DNR

For a max of 55A on a switch, How do you work out how many of these cameras can be used

Hard Knocks

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

I've done a lot of tinkering with cameras over the past 3 years. This is what I would recommend to anyone who has some sort of mobile coverage in their shed (I'm using Vodafone prepay, costs me €20 per month and I don't top up outside of calving season):

One of these, insert the SIM card of your choice:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-Unlocked-B311s-220-Worldwide-Renewed/dp/B07ZFVMJN4/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=4g+router&qid=1612176831&s=computers&sr=1-5

Buy a short ethernet cable and connect to this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Internet-Splitter/dp/B07PYSNSDD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=powered+ethernet+switch&qid=1612176892&s=computers&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExU1FHMUhWWUkwTDFEJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjI4MjU2MTc3VlNIVUo5V0QwSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTQ1NDA5NkpTQ0cyTEpHOFRKJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Put the router and switch into one of these (You may need to ventilate it):
https://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/wall-boxes/7755788/?cm_mmc=IE-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CSS_IE_EN_Enclosures_%26_Server_Racks_Whoop_ME+(2)-_-(IE:Whoop!)+Wall+Boxes-_-7755788&matchtype=&pla-339242067534&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4pLFksLI7gIVAmHmCh1t8QgAEAQYAiABEgKAFPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Buy some IP Pan tilt zoom cameras off Wish, approx €30-40 each (or similar from Amazon, but will be more expensive)
Buy the appropriate lengths of ethernet cable from Amazon to connect them back to the switch.

It's really simple to set up, a child could do it. You can get wifi cameras too, but ethernet cables are really cheap and make the system more reliable.

Thanks
I gather the switch means you don’t need power going to the individual camera?
If you’re having more than 1 camera do the all have to be the same brand?

Bitten & Hisses

I've done a lot of tinkering with cameras over the past 3 years. This is what I would recommend to anyone who has some sort of mobile coverage in their shed (I'm using Vodafone prepay, costs me €20 per month and I don't top up outside of calving season):

One of these, insert the SIM card of your choice:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-Unlocked-B311s-220-Worldwide-Renewed/dp/B07ZFVMJN4/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=4g+router&qid=1612176831&s=computers&sr=1-5

Buy a short ethernet cable and connect to this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Ethernet-Unmanaged-Internet-Splitter/dp/B07PYSNSDD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=powered+ethernet+switch&qid=1612176892&s=computers&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExU1FHMUhWWUkwTDFEJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjI4MjU2MTc3VlNIVUo5V0QwSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMTQ1NDA5NkpTQ0cyTEpHOFRKJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Put the router and switch into one of these (You may need to ventilate it):
https://ie.rs-online.com/web/p/wall-boxes/7755788/?cm_mmc=IE-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-CSS_IE_EN_Enclosures_%26_Server_Racks_Whoop_ME+(2)-_-(IE:Whoop!)+Wall+Boxes-_-7755788&matchtype=&pla-339242067534&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4pLFksLI7gIVAmHmCh1t8QgAEAQYAiABEgKAFPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Buy some IP Pan tilt zoom cameras off Wish, approx €30-40 each (or similar from Amazon, but will be more expensive)
Buy the appropriate lengths of ethernet cable from Amazon to connect them back to the switch.

It's really simple to set up, a child could do it. You can get wifi cameras too, but ethernet cables are really cheap and make the system more reliable.

grange mac

Lads need some assistance here if ye don't mind. Have a newly wired shed and plan was get in WiFi via router that takes sim card. Still working on that as have old router here and was told it can power a dongle with simcard in it.

Question is though can I have 2 separate cameras and have one loop recording and one just viewing at same time?

The ideas is one for 2 legged vermin and one in different shed looking at cattle. Seen previous posts about reolink and they look the part. Just want to confirm no other option available to me. Cameras will be about 30 ft apart and one will be close to router.
Thanks.

orm0nd

for any one that might not have coverage from 3/48.ie/tesco mobile etc, and might have from vodafone

vodafone do a v sim card (it is used mainly in vehicle tracing devices etc,) it will power 1 reolink cam or similar if the cam is compatiable , it's €10 once off and 3 or 4 € monthly

one of the cams went down here overnight, back up now but I thinking either the psu and/or the nano station is failing, have spare will change around when i get a chance

Mooooo

emaherx wrote: »

You could look at the Reolink cameras.
What sort of area are you looking at? most of the cheap night vision cameras depend on infra red LEDs for light so their vision is like using a torch, its fine in a shed or pointing down a yard but will only have a beam pointed out across a wide open area like a field with fairly limited range.

Was planning on pointing it at the area outside the feed barrier, so not really across a whole field, just far enough out that the cattles heads wouldn't set it off

emaherx

Mooooo wrote: »

Anything handy to mount outside.? I think something is chasing the yearlings in the other yard. Trail camera type job that I could mount facing outside the yard/ barrier. No need for live views just something that capture whatever may appear there. Would need to work in the dark

You could look at the Reolink cameras.
What sort of area are you looking at? most of the cheap night vision cameras depend on infra red LEDs for light so their vision is like using a torch, its fine in a shed or pointing down a yard but will only have a beam pointed out across a wide open area like a field with fairly limited range.

emaherx

Lads earlier were recommending 48.ie for sim card, think its about €8 for 100GB which sounds good.

Couple of solar panels could also reduce the need for running the generator as often.

Mooooo

Anything handy to mount outside.? I think something is chasing the yearlings in the other yard. Trail camera type job that I could mount facing outside the yard/ barrier. No need for live views just something that capture whatever may appear there. Would need to work in the dark

Timmaay

https://m.ebay.ie/itm/Audio-1920P-IP-WLAN-%C3%9Cberwachungskamera-Funk-Outdoor-CCTV-PTZ-Smart-Home-IR-Nacht/392988198489

I ordered 2 of these to replace my cheap and nasty cctv system. Decent specs and the app to use them has reasonable enough reviews. I'll probably connect one using a nanostation to where my 4g router is, hopefully the other one will link via WiFi to the outdoor router that covers most the yard here.

emaherx

There are Wifi versions as well, which is what you'll require if you plan on using multiple cameras with a single sim.

Not sure how reliable those solar cameras will be here in winter. I don't think it would matter to many of the posters who were discussing them here earlier as they bought them as portable calving cameras and don't mind taking them in for an occasional charge.

If you are planning on a reliable security setup as well as calving then you may want to consider a solar panel, charge controller and battery. Most cheap WiFi cameras are 12V as are most 3G/4G routers. (although I'd still use a voltage regulator too) You could always use it for lighting too.

kevthegaff

893bet wrote: »

Reolink GO 3G/4G LTE Outdoor Surveillance Camera incl. Solar Panel, 1080p IP Camera, Wireless with Battery, Two-Way Audio, Night Vision in Colour and PIR Sensor (Not suitable for LAN or WiFi). https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07WVZFTMQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GmcbGb7JJX6PJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

It’s 320 quid there now but there is and 80 “voucher” showing up for me.

It was 300 last week when I bought making it 218.

I will post some screen shots of camera quality when I get a chance.

Is there any of these that are just plug in rather than solar, I ordered a DVR and it never came from Amazon.co.uk. need something fairly fast

conseng

893bet wrote: »

How much is gomo a month?

Order a 48 one, you can do it online and you get 7 days free to test so no risk. 8 quid a month after that.

Have done and its working perfectly.

Not sure what the gomo issue was, it was borrowed from a phone anyway and was only ever to be temporary, might have needed a reset or something.

Great success so far. Once in a while it takes a couple of goes to connect but very happy with it.

emaherx

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. Do you run your cable in conduit or can the external grade stuff just be clipped to the timbers?

No, I've not used conduit to run the cable.

893bet

On my Reolink 4g after one week where I logged in 20-30 odd times the first two days and 5-10 times every day since then usually for 1-2 minutes each time.

I used less than 0.2 gb of data, battery is showing at 66 percent, and it never once failed to make a connection.

My free week with 48 is a success so will def sign up with them.

emaherx

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Going to bring internet from house to shed via receiver for now
Long term is bring CAT5 from house to garage to shed
Intend to put lan cameras in the shed
Without using a dvr is there a way to hook up the camera to be viewed on my phone or a pc?

Yes, most IP cameras don't require a DVR or NVR to connect via phone or PC. Obviously check specs of anything you buy but the NVR only supplies centralized management and storage for your IP cameras.

Get cameras of the same brand and they can usually be displayed simultaneously in their phone apps.

Same for PC if there is an application available, but if they are browser viewable only on PC then you'll only be able to view one per browser tab at a time.

Hard Knocks

Going to bring internet from house to shed via receiver for now
Long term is bring CAT5 from house to garage to shed
Intend to put lan cameras in the shed
Without using a dvr is there a way to hook up the camera to be viewed on my phone or a pc?

emaherx

There is nothing wrong with the HiLook by Hikvision Products.

The 2 DVR's I have are the same model number but branded differently, one is HiLook and the other is HiWatch. I think Hilook is the new name for HiWatch products.

I've read that the professional Hikvision versions have more AI features for image recognition which is the biggest difference but will hardly effect monitoring cows. Although my DVR's seem to have plenty of these features anyway, I'm actually a bit curious to know what the extra features might be.

Here is a link to me playing with some of the smart features.
https://farmer-eds-shed.com/farm-cctv-calving-and-security-cameras-with-iot-intergration/

Unless the Professional versions can detect a cow in labour I'm not sure what else it may have to offer.

These guys however do claim to have such features
https://www.herdeye.ie/

Limestone Cowboy

And we are live

emaherx

Timmaay wrote: »

Whats my best bet (and best value lol) for either a bullet or ptz 2 or 4mp wifi camera at the minute, from a definite European or uk stockist? I'm not arsed with a straight from Asia job that takes weeks and get stung for custom's.

Think I'll go with Hikvision for most future CCTV needs, but I don't see many Bullet type WiFi options.

Reolink are getting good reviews and seem popular for WiFi Cameras including completely Wireless Battery/Solar options. A few posters on here were discussing the 4G version.

Timmaay

Whats my best bet (and best value lol) for either a bullet or ptz 2 or 4mp wifi camera at the minute, from a definite European or uk stockist? I'm not arsed with a straight from Asia job that takes weeks and get stung for custom's.

emaherx

What model NVR are you using?
Does it have more than one RJ45 port on the NVR?
How are Cameras powered? DC adapter in nearby outlet or POE?

Every device on a network switch requires a unique IP address and can't possibly work if they have the same address.

Edit:
I'll assume since you got one camera to work with that switch that you are not using POE.
If the DVR has built in POE Ports then I believe you need to disable them to free up resources, then you connect the DVR and cable coming from cameras directly to your router and forget about the extra RJ45 ports. Cameras and NVR need to all have different IP addresses but in the same range.

RobinBanks

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone here might have a similar setup to me. I am having a bit of bother and not making much progress resolving it.

My setup which currently works fine for me is as follows:

Router located in house (ISP is Imagine)
Cat 5 cable runs from router to shed outside
This cable is plugged into the LAN port of a Hikvision NVR
2 separate Cat 5 cables leave the NVR and plug into 2 Hikvision IP cameras.

With this setup i can view both cameras no problem.

What i want to do is as follows:

Router located in house (ISP is Imagine)
Cat 5 cable runs from router to the LAN port of the NVR, NVR located beside the router in the house.
1 Cat 5 cable leaves the NVR in the house and goes out to the shed.
This cable is plugged into a Netgear gigabit Switch, model is GS105.
2 separate Cat 5 cables leave the switch and plug into 2 Hikvision IP cameras.

When i connect it up this way i can only view one of the cameras. the main difference in this setup is the addition of the switch, which seems to be blocking one of the cameras. maybe i need a different type switch or do i now need to setup both cameras with the same IP address? i just don't know enough about it.

The reason i want to set it up this way is to keep the NVR inside in a better environment.

893bet

White Clover wrote: »

What network does 48 operate on?

Operates on 3.

White Clover

893bet wrote: »

How much is gomo a month?

Order a 48 one, you can do it online and you get 7 days free to test so no risk. 8 quid a month after that.

What network does 48 operate on?

emaherx

conseng wrote: »

Sim is unlocked but not sure if the GOMO sim which runs on Eir is supported. Will try it off three network and see how we go. Thanks.

It really should not matter.
But its quite likely that the device shipped with some telco's APN's preconfigured but with lesser known ones omitted.

Have you tried manually setting the APN for GOMO?

893bet

conseng wrote: »

No, its new. I read somewhere that they run on three or vodafone networks in Ireland, Gomo runs on Eir so that could be an issue.

How much is gomo a month?

Order a 48 one, you can do it online and you get 7 days free to test so no risk. 8 quid a month after that.

timple23

conseng wrote: »

No, its new. I read somewhere that they run on three or vodafone networks in Ireland, Gomo runs on Eir so that could be an issue.

Can you put the gomo sim into a phone and download an internet speed test app to see what speeds you are getting?

conseng

orm0nd wrote: »

were you using it on a different network before? if so it may be using the apn from that.

No, its new. I read somewhere that they run on three or vodafone networks in Ireland, Gomo runs on Eir so that could be an issue.

orm0nd

conseng wrote: »

Sim is unlocked but not sure if the GOMO sim which runs on Eir is supported. Will try it off three network and see how we go. Thanks.

were you using it on a different network before? if so it may be using the apn from that.