Gumbo wrote: » Explain? New order?
maclek wrote: » So I pulled the trigger, three days to find out if I'm out €100 or €100k!
Kramer wrote: » Have you tried Dunnes for an opinion? In fairness, I can't see why Tesco would replace your car's MCU, or eMMC, unless you shop there, a helluva lot .
markpb wrote: » I've also seen someone complain that Tesco say the issue is an MCU problem, not eMMC and so not covered by the extended warranty.
unkel wrote: » Oh that's interesting, haven't heard that before and I looked into this issue on the main Tesla forums some time last year. Any link?
ELM327 wrote: » People on the UK group are saying that after the eMMC chip replacement from Tesla, the issues returned.
unkel wrote: » The issue we are talking about here - a very common issue on older Tesla Model S - is the flash memory chip failing because it simply has been written to too many times. The part was not fit for purpose because the software excessively wrote to it and these memory chips can only take so many writes before they are likely to fail. Part is being replaced (free of charge) with a better part and the software was long since changed to no longer log data as excessively. Problem sorted. Not a big deal.
unkel wrote: » That's pretty serious alright, car should not be driven like that. That said, it must be in exceptional cases only, never heard of that before and any MCU1 failures typically give signs / artifacts / freezes etc. for several months before a serious failure happens. Plenty of time to get it fixed Anyway storm in a tea cup, free fix by Tesla and the problem will never happen again (as there is no longer excessive data logging on a memory card too small that can't handle it) Big problem is the few people that paid big bucks to Tesla to have this fixed. They should be compensated. If I were one of them, I'd go get my money back.
maclek wrote: » Rumours of a refresh are building, anyone thinking of pulling the trigger?
markpb wrote: » Total failure means no demister and potentially no indicators. That’s a pretty serious failure.
unkel wrote: » I doubt some of the stuff he is saying. I can't see a single cell failing having any impact on the overall battery or render the car grounded. The bricks are something like 6S80P so if one parallel cell fails, the voltage stays the same and the capacity just drops by a bit over 1%. No big deal. If it shorts, it is fuse wired, so doesn't impact the rest of the battery Also $5k is insane for that repair. What you do is remove the battery, test each brick, locate the faulty one and replace it with a second hand one (they cost about $1k each). Labour maybe $200-$300 for that and you keep the faulty brick. Either sell it on for a couple hundred or fix it and use in the above repair. So more of a $1250 job than a $5000 job:
unkel wrote: » Well known problem, that's been around for years. Tesla have started fixing these free of charge, even for cars out of warranty. Cars still drive fine after it failed, so no safety issue. I don't understand why it would have to be a mandatory recall really.
zg3409 wrote: » It still might be a 5000 dollar fee for one bad cell, but still gets you back on the road, and presumably they might loan you a battery while you wait for diagnosis. That price should come down once more companies start offering the service.
unkel wrote: » Not quite correct. Tesla take out your whole battery pack and replace it with a refurbished pack. That's these days, in the past you might have got a brand new pack. We don't know yet how much Tesla will start charging for this job when the warranty is up, as all battery pack replacements worldwide so far have been done for free under warranty But I think it is reasonable to assume that if they charge too much, independents will pick up on this and offer a battery fix for much less money (that's exactly what happened when Tesla charged $3k to fix the MCU1 problem).