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RoadRunner

It's about what's best for their brand, not punishment. JT is smart and may be able to turn it around by becoming some type of ambassador for an LGBT cause. If a full 360 on it was managed right it could actually make the logo on his shirt way more valuable then it was previously!

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Ivefoundgod wrote: »

The whataboutery is something else here. I'm not here to defend RL using sweatshops, I am saying what JT said was wrong, offensive and he deserves to be punished. RL have punished him, which is the correct decision.

The sweatshops are a completely separate issue.

Yes he was wrong, in frustration muttered an offensive word under his breathe, directed toward himself/his ball, not to/at someone else. Big deal. RL probably saw an opportunity to get out of an expensive sponsorship and took it. When big brands who have a record of exploiting workers hold themselves up as paragons of virtue, very publicly punishing a sportsman, they can f**k right off, I don’t like their gaudy clothes anyway.

Snowflakes would be offended by this, similar to the ones who found offence with fairytale of New York before Christmas.

Ivefoundgod

The whataboutery is something else here. I'm not here to defend RL using sweatshops, I am saying what JT said was wrong, offensive and he deserves to be punished. RL have punished him, which is the correct decision.

The sweatshops are a completely separate issue.

[Deleted User]

Its interesting the way words disappear, when I was growing up the word poof was a near constant at school. You dont hear it anymore anywhere. I'd imagine fag**t will go a similar way. I haven't heard anyone use it in years apart from in a film maybe.

The_Kew_Tour

Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Fairly disappointing comments here, right decision by Ralph Lauren.

As for the "you can't say anything anymore" brigade. The word he used was always offensive, you might not have been called out on it in the past but it was still offensive. You are rightfully brought up for using it now and it is absolutely right that he's been dropped by RL who have very concrete ties to the LGBT community.

What Thomas did was wrong, he deserves a fine, slap and warning, but that’s it.

Have a read of this.....good old Ralph

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54960346

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Ivefoundgod wrote: »

Fairly disappointing comments here, right decision by Ralph Lauren.

As for the "you can't say anything anymore" brigade. The word he used was always offensive, you might not have been called out on it in the past but it was still offensive. You are rightfully brought up for using it now and it is absolutely right that he's been dropped by RL who have very concrete ties to the LGBT community.

But has anyone bothered to interview the ball?

I’m sure the people working in sweat shops, being exploited while they make RL clothes would argue the it’s a bit hypocritical of RL to be judgemental.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-54960346

Ivefoundgod

Fairly disappointing comments here, right decision by Ralph Lauren.

As for the "you can't say anything anymore" brigade. The word he used was always offensive, you might not have been called out on it in the past but it was still offensive. You are rightfully brought up for using it now and it is absolutely right that he's been dropped by RL who have very concrete ties to the LGBT community.

Potential Underachiever

So, Angel Cabrera huh? who'd have thunk?

Bill Ponderosa

All these brands no doubt have their sweat shops in Vietnam and China that you won't hear about trying to impose their morals on us.

SeeMoreBut

CSWS101 wrote: »

Polo Ralph Lauren end their deal with JT over the homophobic slur, seems quite harsh to me thought they would have given him a chance to redeem himself. Will be interesting to see what brand will go after him now.

The world has gone crazy. You can't say anything anymore as it will offend something.

CSWS101

Polo Ralph Lauren end their deal with JT over the homophobic slur, seems quite harsh to me thought they would have given him a chance to redeem himself. Will be interesting to see what brand will go after him now.

Ivefoundgod

I'd usually agree with Donegan but I think he's off the mark there. No doubt there will be tour players who play rounds with him after the 20th but his brand is now so toxic that he's being abandoned all over the place. Bill Belichick just refused the freedom medal and he was a big Trump guy and is very much on the conservative side of things. Once it starts to impact the bottom line there is no going back IMO, look at all the sponsors, including huge banks like Deustche who are leaving Trump. Even Callaway are beginning to take some heat for Sorenstam, worth looking up some recent stories about her by the way, she's fully into the Q stuff. The No Laying Up guys even touched on it in their recent pod but obviously couldn't say too much given the sponsorship deal they have with Callaway but I'd expect Sorenstam to be out at Callaway once her contract is up.

The really interesting thing will be if he has to start selling assets, Doonbeg and Turnberry you'd think would be first to go.

The_Kew_Tour

https://www.otbsports.com/golf/trump-toxic-pga-tour-golfers-1133425?fbclid=IwAR3NCQnM3qeoIq4TvmIAlHzt9ao-iZLhG33rIZeKtkNAfdqbRnbrGmYqtIE

Interesting comments. No surprise with Golfers in States being right leaning but love to know the juice on Fowler.

Potential Underachiever

Comment said he would lose in the two man field against Jack Nickluas. Either that or his OWGR would mean he wouldn't get in to either event.

LuckyGent88

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Grayson Murray isn't the brightest player on Tour is he?

https://twitter.com/GraysonMurray/status/1348660886076944384

Not sure if Trump actually has any money!!
He would be the only player in the field and somehow manage to miss the cut. He is an absolutely shocking player and Class A dickhead.

Potential Underachiever

Grayson Murray isn't the brightest player on Tour is he?

https://twitter.com/GraysonMurray/status/1348660886076944384

CSWS101

Lip Out wrote: »

Imagine a world where snowflakes were not champing at the bit ready to be offended by the slightest thing.

This is nothing new, it is a derogatory term and it's use has been punished for years. Kobe got slapped a big fine for it and Reed was also fined for it. It's clear he didn't say it to cause offence, but he should know better and be fined accordingly for it

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Seve OB wrote: »

Fake News ?

The fakiest.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/sport/golf/6399260/trump-turnberry-not-host-open/amp/

I hear the Oireachtest Golf Society have said they will not be holding this years outing in Trump Doonbeg as it would be too controversial.

[Deleted User]

Seve OB wrote: »

Fake News ?

The fakiest.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/sport/golf/6399260/trump-turnberry-not-host-open/amp/

Seve OB

El Sueño wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PGA/status/1348464912729780231

I assume we won't see the Open at Turnberry for the foreseeable either

Fake News ?

Lip Out

El Sueño wrote: »

Since the golfing media seem to fawn over JT every chance they get it must've been a tough story to report on. Imagine if Bryson or Reed had said it

Imagine a world where snowflakes were not champing at the bit ready to be offended by the slightest thing.

Deeper Blue

Since the golfing media seem to fawn over JT every chance they get it must've been a tough story to report on. Imagine if Bryson or Reed had said it

Ivefoundgod

Has it not been all over the place? Used a homophobic word beginning with 'F'

spacecoyote

Any word on what happened with Justin Thomas? I see he had to issue a public apology for something in his round?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As odious as trump is I'm not sure I agree with that move. 75 million Americans voted for him. Sport should stay out of politics until someone is actually convicted of something.

Have you switched on your TV since Wednesday?

It is/was expected that Ivanka would run in the 2022 primaries, it would have been hard for Trump to resist that type of exposure to further his own agenda. I think it was the right decision by the PGA, the Trump brand is now toxic, it would be controversy they don’t need.

[Deleted User]

As odious as trump is I'm not sure I agree with that move. 75 million Americans voted for him. Sport should stay out of politics until someone is actually convicted of something.

Rikand

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Which one?? The new Tirnberey is supposed to be great in fairness. He has been a big help for golf in some aspects but ultimately it’s going all in a negative direction now and has been for a long time

No, I meant the american one. But all his courses are pretty savage to be fair.

LuckyGent88

Rikand wrote: »

It's meant to be an unreal course though which is a pity we wont get to see it

Which one?? The new Tirnberey is supposed to be great in fairness. He has been a big help for golf in some aspects but ultimately it’s going all in a negative direction now and has been for a long time

Rikand

It's meant to be an unreal course though which is a pity we wont get to see it

Deeper Blue

https://twitter.com/PGA/status/1348464912729780231

I assume we won't see the Open at Turnberry for the foreseeable either