Strumms wrote: » When Celtic were destroying all in their sights in soccer domestically, Pete Sampras in tennis, Boston Celtics I think during the Bill Russell leadership... from ‘57-‘69 they won everything, nobody was legitimately pissing and moaning...must have been a frustration but.. Championships : 1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969 Division Titles : 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965.. Dubs are just superb footballers, worked hard to nurture talent, improve talent... big game players, ability, skills, discipline.... successes... naturally. The goal of every sports man, woman, team... the same, noses just out of joint because not many achieve it...
EICVD wrote: » A first all Ireland appearance in 20 years or so & you wouldn’t go because you know you’d lose, if that’s not a defeatist attitude! What happened to the Meath don’t fear the Dubs times, looks like we’ve strangled the competitiveness out of ye, not that I’m complaining
RoyalCelt wrote: » Everyone from Meath would know we'd get hammered. I wouldn't attend and I'd imagine 10k max would go. Any other year you'd have 40k at least who'd avail of a ticket. Only a handful travel to leinster matches involving Dublin these days and its gotten worse since 2018. You'd want to be offered free tickets and even at that it isn't worth it. I personally didn't watch the last 4 or 5 meetings even on TV and talking to lads in my club I wasn't alone. Nobody cares about leinsters biggest rivalry of the last 100 years.https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/315265 I see the Leinster CEO has acknowledged the championship was good with the exception of dublin matches. Finally a realisation they shouldn't be competing similar to Galway's removal from Connaught hurling championship? Obviously those planning Dublin's annual all Ireland cake walks will emphasise the importance of Leinster to the players but in reality it allows them to build for a peak for the all ireland without breaking a sweat. Playing a provincial match in donegal, kerry, Cork or mayo in may or june wouldn't be ideal. If it's good enough for galway in hurling it's good enough for Dublin in football. The leinster hurling championship has never been better now it's time to save the football.
ooter wrote: » Would a Meath/Dublin all Ireland final not sell out? Meath could go all the way to the final without playing dublin.
JeffKenna wrote: » Your argument is very disingenuous. I can't believe anybody actually believes Dublin v Meath will be a sell out at any time in the near future. I don't actually think you believe that if you have been going to Dublin games over the past few years. How many Meath people actually travel these days? Say they'll be a lot less than 2019 judging by Meath people on here.
tritium wrote: » Again in the interests of clarity, when you say the GAA didn’t dare put dublin in harms way, how does that work exactly? Does someone from headquarters just arrive in a black state car to give Carlow the grim news they’re going to Croker while his henchmen and women laugh evilly. Or is there votes and stuff that lead to that decision? Did representatives from the Leinster counties have an input to the decision for example?
Strumms wrote: » Let’s break it down for you... A ‘venue’ and its choice is not about the teams but the fans mostly. Like if U2 are playing a one off gig here next month, would it be wrong of them to choose Croke Park ? No, of course not... Of course you could choose The Cork Opera House but I think the idea is, give as many people the opportunity to see and enjoy. Say next years Leinster final is between Dublin and Meath... the demand for tickets from both sides will be ensuring it’s a sell out..76,534 people in attendance or close.... is the right thing to do say that...” sure another home game for Dublin, fûck that, play it in Páirc Tailteann ? Around 32,000 in attendance ? You are fûcking over both Dublin AND Meath supporters by going this way of thinking. Taking 44,000 seats away from the paying GAA loving public, to suit an agenda... we’ve had enough of that shît and that backwards thinking in this country. The fact that Dublin have access to Croker is not by design it’s by necessity... The same reason that the location of the final is not moved every year to give other locations a chance of holding it and a payday.... because the supporters are the primary concern.... a stadium is a theatre... designed to allow spectators to stand or sit, enjoy and view the event.... Croker simply has that capacity. Other infrastructure here simply doesnt. Fitzgerald Stadium, 38,000... 9000 is seated, ok let’s have an All Ireland Semi Final there ? Errrr no. The venue doesn’t stand up to the demands...Pairc Ui Chaoimh 45,000 ? 34,000 people short of the Croker capacity... again, home advantage is a byproduct, but the design of a stadium is to facilitate spectators...I guarantee if Cork had a home semi vs Dublin they’d have a significant number of them chanting for Croker as the venue to enable them to get enough tickets.
RoyalCelt wrote: » He tells you what County he's from and he'll get slagged off and it used to discredit his facts. I'm guessing he's from a traditional football County that has had inter County football as a spectacle seriously damaged by the prospect of dublin winning every year. This right here is another big issue. Back when Dublin were beatable the gaa didn't dare put their cash cow in harms way. I didn't see Meath, Wexford, Louth, Laois, Westmeath or Kildare getting home matches vs Dublin or even matches located in neutral counties. It must have scared the gaa when Longford nearly beat them. Decisions like this directly affect results and lead to dublin winning more leinsters then they otherwise would. And you'd wonder about the many dubious calls the dubs got in close leinster matches. And remember this was at a time when the association that hire these refs were publicly stating they needed a more successful dublin. Beggars belief. The final blow is the massive funding disparity and the effort by the GAA to get Dublin's house in order even though they were already decent. You can see why we're losing faith in the sport except at club level. 870k watched the football this year when the entire country was stuck at home. Is that not a bit low?
TCP/IP wrote: » Again not answering the question you are losing a lot of credibility by not answering a straight and simple question.
ooter wrote: » Away championship games Dublin senior footballers have played since 2006. Laois, June 2016. Carlow, June 2017. Wicklow, June 2018. Tyrone, July 2018. Louth, May 2019. Tyrone, August 2019.
Enquiring wrote: » Only 2 of them were away games!!
ooter wrote: » Ok.
Enquiring wrote: » In fairness, you've been unable or unwilling to answer the majority of questions posed to you and then you continue to ask questions already answered multiple times. So let's get some answers. How can you justify Dublin receiving funding for one development officer for nearly every club while Cork received funding for 6? Cork have far more clubs than Dublin and about half their population.
JeffKenna wrote: » Jez, that's shocking. 6 in 14 years. None of those were knockout were they?
tritium wrote: » Pretty sure that doesn’t answer the question I asked....
Enquiring wrote: » Again, you're talking about recent developments. The East Leinster project is a few years old. This accounts for most of the extra coaches. This was also apart of the plan drawn up by the strategic review committee in 2002. Why should 4 counties get access to these coaches above every other county in the country? As I say though, tackling that now would be like tackling the unbalanced funding for Dublin in 2005. It's gone way to far in Dublin's case. Again, you can't write off near 2 decades of funding disparity.
Enquiring wrote: » Other counties county boards being incompetent is irrelevant to the issue under discussion. This is not to say it's untrue, it's just irrelevant.
tikkahunter wrote: » Go and ask for a look at your counties finances and scan them. You will get your factual evidence there. Then to justify each expense.
tritium wrote: » Ah I see so you’re saying that pays for the 118 coaches for the rest of Leinster for example. That’s presumably in addition to the funding the counties got directly, since its a much bigger sum. And who pays for the 65 or so (55% of the rest of Leinster total) coaches for dublin?
Enquiring wrote: » More anecdotes. Lacking in any factual evidence.
tritium wrote: » Should every county get the same under your proposals? Do Leitrim get the same as Mayo for example? How do you propose to allocate the money?
Enquiring wrote: » I haven't. This has got to be about the 10th time I've answered this exact same comment from you. You're like that guy who kept going on about hurling despite having his point destroyed time and again. The millions you're talking about breaks down to between 1 and 6 coaches per county.
