Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » The frontline staff in Nenagh hospital are furious that they are not getting vaccines or dates for vaccines when private hospitals with no Covid patients are getting vaccines.https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40207721.html Great planning.
Medical staff at Nenagh Hospital in Tipperary still do not know when their vaccine programme will begin and have said how frustrated they are to see non-frontline staff getting the precious shots. The nurse, speaking at the start of a shift working with Covid patients to Virgin Media TV, added: “We are so angry, we are scared, we are afraid. We can see our co-workers going down with Covid and becoming very ill.” And she was critical of a contentious vaccine programme for staff at the private Beacon HealthCare hospital.
Bowie wrote: » You are making up stuff again. I thanked frontline workers. This upset the FF/FG lobby. It was shown I previously and rightly criticised the vaccine delays based on red tape. Asking could they not have began seeking permission in the run up. You were involved. Yet here you are playing dumb, quite well.
McMurphy wrote: » As I was saying, NPHET were giving a one or the other advice well before Christmas. Leo and Michaél decided to ignore it though, witness the repercussions now.
blanch152 wrote: » 10 days in, the vaccine rollout is on track, yet somehow the government made a balls of it. All in the same post. You are gas.
Red tape blamed for Covid-19 vaccine rollout delays
Bowie wrote: » You are embarrassing yourself compounding your 'err' on this.I am blaming them for making a balls of it. I've never denied that. You are moving the goal posts. I thanked and commended frontline workers for actually doing the work on the ground.I acknowledged the vaccine rollout is now looking on track, due to you and your fellow travelers needing a political hug.
blanch152 wrote: » Oh, this would be hilarious if it weren't such a serious issue. I have never seen anything so deluded posted on this site. We are fifteen days into the vaccination process, actually only 10 working days, we are vaccinating at the second best rate in Europe, it is only beginning, but you come out with "they initally made a balls of it". We are still in the initial stages of a vaccination process that will take the guts of a year!!!! There is still time for the government to make a balls of the initial stages as they are not over yet!!!!!
blanch152 wrote: » I can keep digging out posts where you blame FF/FG for the vaccine roll-out which turned out to be the second-best in Europe so far. Here is another one: Stop digging would be my advice to you. You look more and more silly each time you try and defend yourself.
blanch152 wrote: » And who organises this? Do you think Ministers are going around organising who gets vaccinated first? Some suspicions are not that much different to conspiracy theories. We had people complaining that "back-office" staff were getting the vaccine ahead of "front-line" staff. Turns out that the back-office staff were the administrators you meet when you turn up at A&E to sign-in - among the most vulnerable of healthcare staff to the virus as there has been no screening of patients done.
darem93 wrote: » But I thought it was all the North’s fault? The reason why we couldn’t have any control at the airports is because the North refused to cooperate and everyone would fly in via Belfast and just cross the border!!! Day by day the absolute insanity of the Irish government’s position on international travel is becoming more and more apparent.
Deleted User wrote: » Indeed. It all comes down to personal responsibility across all (5K) walks of life.
Bowie wrote: » It seems to be a 'small or far away' situation. Frontline workers put their health on the line vaccinating people, now they have the vaccine. They are the ones rolling up sleeves, delivering the vaccine and so on. The FF/FG/Green government are the ones organised supplying it. They initially made a balls of it. You with me?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » It's actually hilarious. As I said yesterday, they don't care for the good of the country, all about politics. Would rather see a slow rollout of the vaccine so they can have a dig at the government. This is the politics of the opposition.
Bowie wrote: » I take it you missed this? You wouldn't be posting pretending you missed it would you? Credibility indeed....
Bowie wrote: » Well it's par for the course with FF/FG governance. As long as 'it's worse elsewhere' sure it's grand.
grayzer75 wrote: » Arlene Foster and Michelle O'Neill jointly wrote to the Irish government and asked for a north / south ministerial council meeting back in July to address the potential issues around travel into the country if there was another surge in cases but Mehole and the Leak didn't bother responding. It was on both the UTV and BBC news programmes at tea-time yesterday. They also said they have been asking for information sharing regarding passengers arriving into the country and made reference to the passenger locator forms which no doubt nobody looks at, again they have got no response from Dublin.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Just curious as to how government take all responsibility if things apparently aren't going well and none of the responsibility when it is. Seems to be a common viewpoint around here. Not expecting to change anyones minds, just find it quite amusing "Wow" indeed
Bubbaclaus wrote: » That's grand Bowie. I just wanted to clarify that: Vaccine rollout apparently going badly: all Government fault (piss up in a brewery) Vaccine rollout apparently going well: Nothing to do with Government. As long as we are all on the same page in regards to your viewpoint.
blanch152 wrote: » I guess your post below aged well, didn't it? Credibility in short supply.
Bowie wrote: » Important use of your time? Can you tell me which frontline workers make policy or organise the logistics of importing and purchasing the vaccines or organising the red tape required before vaccines can be used? If you can, I was talking about them. Alternatively if you can point to any policy makers who are risking their own health to ensure we get people vaccinated I'll praise them too.
Floppybits wrote: » FG looking after their own ahead of everyone else.https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/frustration-as-staff-at-private-hospital-that-refused-to-agree-hse-deal-are-vaccinated-ahead-of-public-healthcare-workers-39970335.html?__twitter_impression=true
FreudianSlippers wrote: » The relaxation of rules prior to and including Christmas was outside NPHET guidelines.
“If you are planning on meeting elderly relatives [at Christmas], if you are planning on meeting other households now is not the time to be socialising with friends,” he said. On Friday, restaurants and gastropubs will begin reopening with restrictions in place. From 18 December, inter-county travel and home visitor restrictions will be eased allowing families and friends to gather at Christmas. This evening, Dr Glynn painted a one-or-the-other scenario facing the public as Ireland moves back to Level 3. “Obviously we will want people to celebrate Christmas in a particular way when the time comes but there are things they need to be doing now to keep themselves safe in advance of doing that,” he said.
Deleted User wrote: » It could also read that Paul Murphy ignored NPHET warnings. Do as I say, not as I do.
McMurphy wrote: » What was irresponsible about going to a restaurant so long as he and the restaurant were adhering to NPHET advice and guidelines? Can you be more specific, or is it, as I suspected, white noise scutter?
McMurphy wrote: » And what do you know, that's exactly what he was doing.https://www.facebook.com/paulmurphytd/videos/312318850111025/
McMurphy wrote: » I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess what Murphy was actually claiming was something to do about NPHETs warning about the govt having to choose between pubs/restaurants etc being open, and that of socialising, and how they should do one, or the other, but not do both. The govt ignored that advice from NPHET, and the results of them choosing to ignore it can now be seen. Have you a link to Murphy's claims, or will I have to just take your word for it? However, this doesn't ignore the other claim you made (don't think you're getting away with that one either), people who took the government advice about it being ok to visit a pub or restaurant over Christmas are irresponsible. Are you standing over that comment yeah?
Deleted User wrote: » Paul Murphy claims that NPHET warned against opening of restaurants etc., in the lead up to Christmas, yet thought it ok to go out for a meal because the government, whose policies he continually criticises, said that it was ok. Hypocrite. Chancer. The difference between his utterances and yours is the better quality of his choice of words.
Deleted User wrote: » Gee, there was me thinking that it’s a thread to slate everything that the current government does! They even get the blame for stuff that happened before some of them were actually born! I was surprised to hear that the champion of the underprivileged, Paul Murphy, went out to a restaurant over Christmas.
McMurphy wrote: » Great, now we're getting to the nub of the issue. So, the government advised it was safe to visit restaurants and gastro pubs etc pre Christmas, so long as people exercised caution, and both they, and the businesses adhered to public health advice and guidelines. However, all those people who decided to take the government advice on board and visit a restaurant or pub, in accordance with NPHETs advice and guidelines are now irresponsible for doing so. To sum it up:,people ignoring the government guidelines are not exercising personal responsibility, and being irresponsible. People following government guidelines are being irresponsible too. Seems the lucky ones are the dead and no longer with us, as they're not sticking to, or ignoring govt advice, therefore they'll not be accused of being irresponsible or having a lack of personal responsibility. Do you ever sit back and read back the complete and utter shyte you type out Mary?
Deleted User wrote: » Freudian put it much better than me. Many thousands, possibly millions of us used a bit of cop on and stayed home, even though we could have gone out socialising if we wanted.
FreudianSlippers wrote: » I'm not here to speak of the relevance, but let's get one thing clear about PM, he's an absolute hypocrite. He's out in all media the last 10 days or more moaning about the Government relaxing restrictions over Christmas, saying it was the worst idea ever when he won't even take personal responsibility to not take full advantage of those relaxations. It's like if the purge was brought in and PM went out and murdered killed (forgot the plot of The Purge there for a sec) someone during the purge, then less than a fortnight later was jumping up and down being like "I can't believe all the people that were murdered during the purge. The Government is totally responsible for all of this!"