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FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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Bishop of hope

Floppybits wrote: »

FG looking after their own ahead of everyone else.

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/frustration-as-staff-at-private-hospital-that-refused-to-agree-hse-deal-are-vaccinated-ahead-of-public-healthcare-workers-39970335.html?__twitter_impression=true

Stephen Donnelly has joined FG?

Cluedo Monopoly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Holly Cairns destroying FG Colm Walsh? on Tonight show. He's floundering around in waffle on the M&B issue

Colm Burke.

She mauled him. He has no answers.

He is an old school waffler. Answers nothing, just states the obvious.

FrancieBrady

Floppybits wrote: »

FG looking after their own ahead of everyone else.

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/frustration-as-staff-at-private-hospital-that-refused-to-agree-hse-deal-are-vaccinated-ahead-of-public-healthcare-workers-39970335.html?__twitter_impression=true

I sincerely hope that one is not let go of.
'We're all in this together'

Suckit

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly has joined FG?

To be fair, you could be forgiven about thinking that about him or Jack Chambers.
But it was no accident that it was that hospital with an FF minister.
Now we must be convinced once and for all that FG aren't doing any hoop jumping for Denis, FF would also be guilty.. :rolleyes: it was all just a coincidence.

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

Well done to the healthcare frontliners.

I guess your post below aged well, didn't it?

Bowie wrote: »

So there's delays in vaccinating because of 'a number of reasons'. We know the main one they mention is 'consent'. This involves the patient or their ward signing a form consenting to taking the vaccine. Ireland seems to be the only country citing this as a block to quicker roll out.
My question is from March of last year didn't they know at some point, the hope was to roll out a vaccine? Couldn't we have started this prior to vaccine approval? On that note, did they wake up one day very recently and turn on their Netscape/Windows 95 system and realise it wasn't fit for purpose?

'Piss up in a brewery' comes to mind.

Credibility in short supply.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

Important use of your time?
Can you tell me which frontline workers make policy or organise the logistics of importing and purchasing the vaccines or organising the red tape required before vaccines can be used? If you can, I was talking about them.
Alternatively if you can point to any policy makers who are risking their own health to ensure we get people vaccinated I'll praise them too.

That's grand Bowie. I just wanted to clarify that:

Vaccine rollout apparently going badly: all Government fault (piss up in a brewery)
Vaccine rollout apparently going well: Nothing to do with Government.

As long as we are all on the same page in regards to your viewpoint.

McMurphy

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

That's grand Bowie. I just wanted to clarify that:

Vaccine rollout apparently going badly: all Government fault (piss up in a brewery)
Vaccine rollout apparently going well: Nothing to do with Government.

As long as we are all on the same page in regards to your viewpoint.

Close but no cigar bubba.

You going to show how the frontline worker source and secure vaccinations?

No?

**White noise so**

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

I guess your post below aged well, didn't it?

Credibility in short supply.

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

That's grand Bowie. I just wanted to clarify that:

Vaccine rollout apparently going badly: all Government fault (piss up in a brewery)
Vaccine rollout apparently going well: Nothing to do with Government.

As long as we are all on the same page in regards to your viewpoint.

Seriously? You two cannot work out the differences between the responsibilities of front line workers and department and government responsibilities?

Wow.

Bubbaclaus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Seriously? You two cannot work out the differences between the responsibilities of front line workers and department and government responsibilities?

Wow.

Just curious as to how government take all responsibility if things apparently aren't going well and none of the responsibility when it is. Seems to be a common viewpoint around here.

Not expecting to change anyones minds, just find it quite amusing

"Wow" indeed

grayzer75

Arlene Foster and Michelle O'Neill jointly wrote to the Irish government and asked for a north / south ministerial council meeting back in July to address the potential issues around travel into the country if there was another surge in cases but Mehole and the Leak didn't bother responding. It was on both the UTV and BBC news programmes at tea-time yesterday.

They also said they have been asking for information sharing regarding passengers arriving into the country and made reference to the passenger locator forms which no doubt nobody looks at, again they have got no response from Dublin.

smurgen

grayzer75 wrote: »

Arlene Foster and Michelle O'Neill jointly wrote to the Irish government and asked for a north / south ministerial council meeting back in July to address the potential issues around travel into the country if there was another surge in cases but Mehole and the Leak didn't bother responding. It was on both the UTV and BBC news programmes at tea-time yesterday.

They also said they have been asking for information sharing regarding passengers arriving into the country and made reference to the passenger locator forms which no doubt nobody looks at, again they have got no response from Dublin.

Don't ya know government only share that with Department of Social Protection . It's more important to catch welfare cheats than to keep the health of the nation safe.

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Just curious as to how government take all responsibility if things apparently aren't going well and none of the responsibility when it is. Seems to be a common viewpoint around here.

Not expecting to change anyones minds, just find it quite amusing

"Wow" indeed

Nobody I know is making the government take ALL the responsibility. On a government thread their failures and competencies are being pointed out/discussed.

What is amusing is how upset some people seem to get about that concept.

[Deleted User]

So, the government is responsible for behavior like this?
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/29-people-fined-e100-for-breaking-5km-travel-restrictions-1064660.html

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

So, the government is responsible for behavior like this?
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/29-people-fined-e100-for-breaking-5km-travel-restrictions-1064660.html

Not sure why you keep making this point - we have had that kind of behaviour since the beginning, sometimes by government ministers and TD's themselves.

Cluedo Monopoly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Nobody I know is making the government take ALL the responsibility. On a government thread their failures and competencies are being pointed out/discussed.

What is amusing is how upset some people seem to get about that concept.

I think everyone on this thread would admit that it's been very entertaining since June 2020

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

So, the government is responsible for behavior like this?
https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/29-people-fined-e100-for-breaking-5km-travel-restrictions-1064660.html

How would the govt be responsible for gobshytes breaking the restrictions now, when they weren't responsible for actual govt members breaking them when they headed off to Clifden for their Golfgate kicks can I ask?

Jinglejangle69

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

That's grand Bowie. I just wanted to clarify that:

Vaccine rollout apparently going badly: all Government fault (piss up in a brewery)
Vaccine rollout apparently going well: Nothing to do with Government.

As long as we are all on the same page in regards to your viewpoint.

It's actually hilarious.

As I said yesterday, they don't care for the good of the country, all about politics.

Would rather see a slow rollout of the vaccine so they can have a dig at the government.

This is the politics of the opposition.

darem93

grayzer75 wrote: »

Arlene Foster and Michelle O'Neill jointly wrote to the Irish government and asked for a north / south ministerial council meeting back in July to address the potential issues around travel into the country if there was another surge in cases but Mehole and the Leak didn't bother responding. It was on both the UTV and BBC news programmes at tea-time yesterday.

They also said they have been asking for information sharing regarding passengers arriving into the country and made reference to the passenger locator forms which no doubt nobody looks at, again they have got no response from Dublin.

But I thought it was all the North’s fault? The reason why we couldn’t have any control at the airports is because the North refused to cooperate and everyone would fly in via Belfast and just cross the border!!!

Day by day the absolute insanity of the Irish government’s position on international travel is becoming more and more apparent.

[Deleted User]

McMurphy wrote: »

How would the govt be responsible for gobshytes breaking the restrictions now, when they weren't responsible for actual govt members breaking them when they headed off to Clifden for their Golfgate kicks can I ask?

Indeed. It all comes down to personal responsibility across all (5K) walks of life.

grayzer75

Deleted User wrote: »

Indeed. It all comes down to personal responsibility across all (5K) walks of life.

Unfortunately a lot of these people believe the whole vaccine / 5G / Bill Gates conspiracy sh*te and the rest just don't give a toss about anybody but themselves.

smurgen

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

It's actually hilarious.

As I said yesterday, they don't care for the good of the country, all about politics.

Would rather see a slow rollout of the vaccine so they can have a dig at the government.

This is the politics of the opposition.

It's not politics is government incompetence and there seems to be an abundance of it going around. It seem we paid world class salaries and still got bad performance. So salaries should be slashed imo.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1350033588104912897?s=19

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Indeed. It all comes down to personal responsibility across all (5K) walks of life.

Yes and those in government have personal responsibility too...to do their jobs competently and efficiently.

That's what this thread is for, observation and accountability of THE GOVERNMENT, mindful that everyone has a share of the responsibility.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Indeed. It all comes down to personal responsibility across all (5K) walks of life.

I reckon the fact the gobshytes are breaking the 5km restrictions that had to be reintroduced following the government choosing to ignore NPHET is well beyond you tbh.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes and those in government have personal responsibility too...to do their jobs competently and efficiently.

That's what this thread is for, observation and accountability of THE GOVERNMENT, mindful that everyone has a share of the responsibility.

Gee, there was me thinking that it’s a thread to slate everything that the current government does! They even get the blame for stuff that happened before some of them were actually born!
I was surprised to hear that the champion of the underprivileged, Paul Murphy, went out to a restaurant over Christmas.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Gee, there was me thinking that it’s a thread to slate everything that the current government does! They even get the blame for stuff that happened before some of them were actually born!
I was surprised to hear that the champion of the underprivileged, Paul Murphy, went out to a restaurant over Christmas.

Relevance?

Did he break restrictions in some way, or is this just more radom white noise scutter?

[Deleted User]

McMurphy wrote: »

Relevance?

Did he break restrictions in some way, or is this just more radom white noise scutter?

Just pointing out his lack of personal responsibility. He shouts about everything he believes that the government does wrong, (like some posters on here) yet behaves so irresponsibly.

Gooey Looey

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just pointing out his lack of personal responsibility. He shouts about everything he believes that the government does wrong, (like some posters on here) yet behaves so irresponsibly.

Irresponsibly? What guidelines did he break?

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

It's not politics is government incompetence and there seems to be an abundance of it going around. It seem we paid world class salaries and still got bad performance. So salaries should be slashed imo.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1350033588104912897?s=19

So we are second fastest in rolling out the vaccine, so something something government's fault?

Is that how this works?

FreudianSlippers

McMurphy wrote: »

Relevance?

Did he break restrictions in some way, or is this just more radom white noise scutter?

I'm not here to speak of the relevance, but let's get one thing clear about PM, he's an absolute hypocrite. He's out in all media the last 10 days or more moaning about the Government relaxing restrictions over Christmas, saying it was the worst idea ever when he won't even take personal responsibility to not take full advantage of those relaxations.

It's like if the purge was brought in and PM went out and murdered killed (forgot the plot of The Purge there for a sec) someone during the purge, then less than a fortnight later was jumping up and down being like "I can't believe all the people that were murdered during the purge. The Government is totally responsible for all of this!"

RandomViewer

blanch152 wrote: »

So we are second fastest in rolling out the vaccine, so something something government's fault?

Is that how this works?

Covid thread has story of vaccine being administered to management of private hospital rather than care staff this is a bad look, suspicion that cronies are getting vaccinated ahead of those more deserving,