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Zgemma H7s Guide

basemann

After taking the decision to get rid of cable I took the plunge and bought a Sat box. I was going to buy a Tiviar Alpha Plus due to its support on here but they were sold out at world of satellite and they suggested the Zgemma as it had similar specs.

Here is my guide to anyone new to the Sat world after getting this box . I hope it will help get through the initial frustration and hurdles you have to overcome. The H7S is relatively new so it's not discussed as much as the alpha plus but with the same software installed most guides can be used for both. I think the alpha would be equally challenging to set up. It takes time and patience and reading so be prepared for a bit of work but it's very satisfying in the end.
Some of this will be obvious to Sat heads but it's meant as a guide for beginners like I was who have some knowledge of the basics. This is from memory so excuse any vagueness of detail.

Here are the main things I learned..

1. To get Saoirview and Uk channels on the same epg listing you need to scan Saoirview 1st then do a second scan of the UK channels ensuring that the option to delete any previous scans is switched off. By doing that you mesh the two together so they can be gathered in the auto bouquets. (This took me ages to figure out!)

2. To install a skin easily you can put the downloaded skin found on the net on a usb and put it in the usb slot while live TV is playing (without any menu open). That will get a prompt to install the skin. If that does not work a plugin like Dreambox found in the plugin section will show all the folders in the sat box and the USB drive can be found and opened to try the install. If that does not work you need to connet a PC and use software like Filezilla to access files on the box from a PC. It's quite easily done if you follow the online guides.

3. A lot of people want the SkyNEW skin for the sky feel (without the sky channels of course!) and it does work but be warned it will prob make your epg crash every time you try and use it. To fix that you need to download a patch file to repair it. Dont install that skin unless you are prepared for that. You will need prob to connect a PC to do that and put it in the correct folder as per the instructions from where it easily found in a google search in places such as techkings etc. You might have to register an email to download these but there's no fee. It looks good when fixed but to be honest other skins are better that the sky menu which is comforting at first but you might feel it unnecessary and lacking functionality after a bit, but that's a personal preference.

Once you get it set up to your requirements its a great machine and very fast with a super picture so it's highly recommended. I hope this helps someone!:)

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greasepalm

By using box outside you could allow a hacker into your network unless its done correctly.

Hdmi cec is listed in openvix image but i dont use it.

jeromeof

Thinking of getting one of the boxes. 2 questions:
1. Transcoding to mobile?
I read some of the devices can do this and it is mostly required to view channels outside your home with the webif web Ui. So does this work and if not what model should I get instead?

2. HDMI CEC
I hate the remote on these types of boxes, but mostly I just use one remote now that came with my Samsung TV, in my opinion it’s pretty fantastic remote - only a few button but by using HDMI cec it can be used for basic navigation in all my current devices connected to the Samsung. So my question is can this model take HDMI cec command ( for navigation around menus + play/pause etc ) from the TV remote? A friend mentioned it didn’t work with his TV

Thanks

greasepalm

Might depend on line of sight as what might block your signal.

refusetolose

Muahahaha wrote: »

I know Kippure is my closest mast. Thanks for the images, I'll give that a try tomorrow and report back

I'm 500 metres from a mast but can only pick up channels from one 7km away , both are in the same direction too

Muahahaha

I know Kippure is my closest mast. Thanks for the images, I'll give that a try tomorrow and report back

greasepalm

Thats why you can use this box go to tuner A or B mode DVB-T2 aslong as you have an aerial feed

As i use 3 rock i use this setting but your region might be somewhere else buttons < or > for changing and green to save

Second image shows my abm setup for dublin.

Muahahaha

greasepalm wrote: »

You have to setup your saorview tuner to your location did you?

Not sure on this, I just did a full scan of both sat and terrestrial and no channels were found on terrestrial. Is there a setting on the box to set the saorview location? I had presumed the lad who installed the aeriel would have done this but maybe not. The TV itself is old and does not have a built in saorview tuner.

greasepalm

Zgemma H7C 4K UHD 2x DVB-C/T2 + 1x DVB-S2X according to specs on wos.

You have to setup your saorview tuner to your location did you?
If you wanted to view and record both Saorview tuners need feeds
You must have a sat feed installed as you have got sat channels.

Muahahaha

greasepalm wrote: »

Does your box not have the Saorview tuner?

Not as far as Im aware, I got it from World of Satellite in the UK, this one
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/zgemma/zgemma-h7c

The box is connected to a chimney aeriel and satellite. I did a scan, all the satellite channels came through but no Irish ones, I saw it scan terrestrial (DVB-T2) but it didnt return anything. It got 884 satellite channels but for some reason when I go to the epg it only goes up to 520. But no Irish channels anyway which is why Im presuming I need a usb tuner for it to get them.

greasepalm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Keen to hear a recommendation on this myself as I have to get one for the Zgemma too, only have the freesat channels at the moment and want to add the Irish ones. Seems you can pay up to 60 or 70 euro for one but if anyone knows of one at a more reasonable price around 20 or 30 please post up.

Does your box not have the Saorview tuner?

greasepalm

https://www.satworld.ie/formuler-usb-dvb-t2-c-tuner.html

Ring them to confirm as you have to install drivers from your feeds for it to work.

Muahahaha

tipperary wrote: »

Anyone know what the best USB DVB-T2 tuner is for these? I am looking to add a second tuner. I have a play TV at the moment, but it doesn't really handle the HD streams unfortunately.

Keen to hear a recommendation on this myself as I have to get one for the Zgemma too, only have the freesat channels at the moment and want to add the Irish ones. Seems you can pay up to 60 or 70 euro for one but if anyone knows of one at a more reasonable price around 20 or 30 please post up.

tipperary

Anyone know what the best USB DVB-T2 tuner is for these? I am looking to add a second tuner. I have a play TV at the moment, but it doesn't really handle the HD streams unfortunately.

Gerry Wicklow

Supercell wrote: »

I'm using Openvix latest on my box and find ABM a bit of faff to be honest. The skin I use is SlyK Onyx and I've just put all the freesat and Saorview channels I like into the one "Favourites" bouquet. You can set the amount of lines/rows in the epg to suit your taste, i've mine set to 16. Not what you are aiming at but maybe worth considering?

I agree, I've never seen the need for ABM for the very rare occasion that anything good changes. I have my favourites listing Saorview first then BBCs etc in roughly alphabetical order. I'm a firm believer in KISS.

Supercell

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Hi Swoofer, No I'm actually on openvix. I factory resetted it and set it up again. But when I do auto scan I'm getting the same Sky channels n a bunch of BBC n ITV versions. But then I blind scanned by chance, now I get 350 odd non encrypted channels n another 350 odd encrypted channels (mostly sky), happy with it now however unable to set ABM's, will try your suggestion. Will reset again n before scanning will set up ABM's.

Thank you very much for your help

I'm using Openvix latest on my box and find ABM a bit of faff to be honest. The skin I use is SlyK Onyx and I've just put all the freesat and Saorview channels I like into the one "Favourites" bouquet. You can set the amount of lines/rows in the epg to suit your taste, i've mine set to 16. Not what you are aiming at but maybe worth considering?

greasepalm

Its best to have 2 working sat feeds into the 2 tuners and post up a picture of your 2 tuner setup and also abm.+ have you setup Saorview for your Irish channels.

Nemeses2050

greasepalm wrote: »

Did you get your lnb changed when you left Sky?

If not that is your issue as other boxes wont work on it until its changed.

I did replace the wide band LnB which was on the dish. Sort of happy with the channels I'm getting now, however I would like to get them sorted in order n get rid of dupes.

greasepalm

Did you get your lnb changed when you left Sky?

If not that is your issue as other boxes wont work on it until its changed.

Nemeses2050

greasepalm wrote: »

Stop doing factory reset as you might end up in the crap,any scan you do overwrites previous data.

Do you have Sky Q in the house resulting in low channel finds.

Full scan is 960+ on 28.2

No I don't have Sky Q, used to have a year ago. Unable to scan for ABMs, it saying error in tuner B, my tuner B settings are same as tuner A. Thought will reset it once n set up ABM'S as suggested by Swoofer and then scan.

greasepalm

Stop doing factory reset as you might end up in the crap,any scan you do overwrites previous data.

Do you have Sky Q in the house resulting in low channel finds.

Full scan is 960+ on 28.2

Nemeses2050

swoofer wrote: »

Nemeses2050, I am assuming you are using an Openatv image but your box has a multiboot function so in effect you can use 4 images and then decide on the best.

You are on the wrong track scanning the sats. Say if you are on a different image. The 2 tuners are set up as SIMPLE, SINGLE,28.2E ASTRA. NO, NO, green to save.

Now before you scan you set up autobouquets or ABM, in reception you should see Autoboqutmaker.

Say image before I go any further and if you can see Autoboqtemaker. Its so long since I dabbled I have forgotten. If its not there you download from plugins. .

Hi Swoofer, No I'm actually on openvix. I factory resetted it and set it up again. But when I do auto scan I'm getting the same Sky channels n a bunch of BBC n ITV versions. But then I blind scanned by chance, now I get 350 odd non encrypted channels n another 350 odd encrypted channels (mostly sky), happy with it now however unable to set ABM's, will try your suggestion. Will reset again n before scanning will set up ABM's.

Thank you very much for your help

Gerry Wicklow

downwiththatsor wrote: »

I am on Openvix and have now using Filezilla created a Kids folder in /media/hdd/movie/ and it now appears after pressing the "Filelist" key.
Any easy way to cherry pick recordings and place them in the kids folder here /media/hdd/movie/Kids using FileZilla commands or other method?
Kids folder appears as an option when adding an epg timer also but don't want to set it as the default location for all recordings.

If you use autotimers there is an option for "custom location" so you can program it to place certain shows in different folders

greasepalm

Use a powered external one so as to take pressure off usb,I have a 2tb on my 7hs externally powered.

downwiththatsor

greasepalm wrote: »

Not tried anything like that before so unsure on that.

Another suggestion might be another destination of a second hdd for kids and their recordings could go to that?

An dedicated external hdd is a good idea, cheers

greasepalm

downwiththatsor wrote: »

I am on Openvix and have now using Filezilla created a Kids folder in /media/hdd/movie/ and it now appears after pressing the "Filelist" key.
Any easy way to cherry pick recordings and place them in the kids folder here /media/hdd/movie/Kids using FileZilla commands or other method?
Kids folder appears as an option when adding an epg timer also but don't want to set it as the default location for all recordings.

Not tried anything like that before so unsure on that.

Another suggestion might be another destination of a second hdd for kids and their recordings could go to that?

downwiththatsor

greasepalm wrote: »

Think atv has directories and all recordings say Emmerdale would be in that folder,Fair City would be in another etc etc.As i use openvix every episode is listed in a folder with a date it was recorded.
Its only on 1 box that i tried Atv on and went back to vix but still have those directories listed and folders.
Others might be able to say how to do it or maybe box is setup already?

Do you have folders or directories listed for recordings as am sure it could be renamed.

I am on Openvix and have now using Filezilla created a Kids folder in /media/hdd/movie/ and it now appears after pressing the "Filelist" key.
Any easy way to cherry pick recordings and place them in the kids folder here /media/hdd/movie/Kids using FileZilla commands or other method?
Kids folder appears as an option when adding an epg timer also but don't want to set it as the default location for all recordings.

swoofer

Nemeses2050, I am assuming you are using an Openatv image but your box has a multiboot function so in effect you can use 4 images and then decide on the best.

You are on the wrong track scanning the sats. Say if you are on a different image. The 2 tuners are set up as SIMPLE, SINGLE,28.2E ASTRA. NO, NO, green to save.

Now before you scan you set up autobouquets or ABM, in reception you should see Autoboqutmaker.

Say image before I go any further and if you can see Autoboqtemaker. Its so long since I dabbled I have forgotten. If its not there you download from plugins. .

greasepalm

Think atv has directories and all recordings say Emmerdale would be in that folder,Fair City would be in another etc etc.As i use openvix every episode is listed in a folder with a date it was recorded.
Its only on 1 box that i tried Atv on and went back to vix but still have those directories listed and folders.
Others might be able to say how to do it or maybe box is setup already?

Do you have folders or directories listed for recordings as am sure it could be renamed.

downwiththatsor

I swapped 28.2 to Tuner B from A and now have no issues now with Crossepg doing the nightly epg update, still using advanced and diseqc port A for all sat positions on tuner a and happy enough with how it works so far.

Just wondering if a folder can be created in the internal HDD to place multiple recordings in? When I press the "Filelist" button now the list is very very long, folders for kids programmes etc would make it a lot cleaner and neater, can it be done using openwebif or will FileZilla be needed if it is in fact possible?
Thanks for all the help

Johnboy1951

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Hello folks,

Further to above, I got a new Quad Lnb. Thankfully neighbor had a big ladder, it was easy to replace Sky lnb, then I plugged back the two cables (Sky lnb had two cables plugged) to 2 ports, two are not connected on the lnb, Should I have connected cables to all 4 ports on the Lnb and use a diseqc? I'm probably mixing up things

The tuners are scanning now and they say 418 channels found but majority of them are Sky channels which are locked, there's only a handful of channels (different versions of BBC n ITV etc) which are not locked. Should I be getting more channels or that's what we get please? I have the tuners setting as simple and satellite automatic, is this the correct setting?

I understand I haven't connected a aerial so I'm not getting Irish soarview channels yet.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated, thanks

There are more than 1,000 channels including the encrypted ones.

I have about 150 individual channels listed for use here.