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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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Dohnjoe

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters” Trump 2016

Judging from the reaction of the GOP and it's voter-base, Trump could get banned off every social media platform, incite an insurrection and be impeached twice and still have a chance of winning in 2024. Calling it now.

banie01

jill_valentine wrote: »

Isn't one of the Dems isolating with Covid?

Yep, but as Jeff has said she had been due to vote by proxy.
Looks like it has been tallied to the count now and it leaves 4 GOP abstentions.

Itssoeasy

embraer170 wrote: »

So only 10 who have any kind of conscience.

It’s the highest from a sitting President's own party ever.

looksee

I think that last Dem came in just at the very last minute.

JeffKenna

jill_valentine wrote: »

Isn't one of the Dems isolating with Covid?

They can all vote by proxy.

jill_valentine

banie01 wrote: »

4 GOP abstentions and 1 Dem, weird vote to miss.

Isn't one of the Dems isolating with Covid?

banie01

4 GOP abstentions and 1 Dem, weird vote to miss.

Headshot

aloyisious wrote: »

So basically all those who voted against the impeachment move voted for the man who brought the insurrectionists into the house.

Who's responsible for the deaths during the attack on the capital

pixelburp

Sexual impropriety warranted impeachment in the eyes of Clinton era republicans but stoking actual insurrection? That's simply politics apparently. What a broken, sad and miserable system that fails to do even the bare minimum in the name of itself. And ultimately, this is just more grist for the mill, this can't be the first belligerent move by those embracing the far right. This rot will only continue if the likes of Cruz choose to encourage it. IMO this isn't over by a long shot and may get worse before it gets better.

aloyisious

So basically all those who voted against the impeachment move voted for the man who brought the insurrectionists into the house.

embraer170

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So there are double digit GOP congressmen and women who have voted to impeach Donald trump.

So only 10 who have any kind of conscience.

Itssoeasy

So there are double digit GOP congressmen and women who have voted to impeach Donald trump.

Kermit.de.frog

PropJoe10 wrote: »

That's a very sad political system that we're watching. There's still near total support in the Republican house caucus for a man that encouraged an attack on the US capitol. Mind boggling.

That's it now. Happy Impeachment Day!

They literally have no choice. Hostages to Trump's psychotic base.

They vote to impeach and not only are they toast but chances are someone worse gets put in instead.

Can't win.

PropJoe10

That's a very sad political system that we're watching. There's still near total support in the Republican house caucus for a man that encouraged an attack on the US capitol. Mind boggling.

That's it now. Happy Impeachment Day!

Kermit.de.frog

Headshot wrote: »

Some of them are afraid of what Trumps base would do to them too it seems

Sickening they are such cowards

To be fair from their perspective I can see why.

Voting against Trump for most of them is a turkey voting for Christmas.

Problem is not so much the politicians as Trump's hold on key voters for them.

kowloon

So, if he doesn't lose his protection detail on the 20th but the authorities make an arrest, will they have someone from the Secret Service sit in a cell with him so he doesn't get shivved to death for a Mars Bar?

Timberrrrrrrr

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Only 7 Republicans in Congress so far have voted for impeachment

The rest are all hostage to the base

Up to nine now, can't see any more switching sides but it's still surprising.

Headshot

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Only 7 Republicans in Congress so far have voted for impeachment

The rest are all hostage to the base

Some of them are afraid of what Trumps base would do to them too it seems

Sickening they are such cowards

Kermit.de.frog

Only 7 Republicans in Congress so far have voted for impeachment

The rest are all hostage to the base

aloyisious

One Republican from Ohio broke ranks, that'll annoy Jim Jordan.

Tell me how

listermint wrote: »

Incredibly broken country.

This year will be eventful.

Covid isn't the half of it

There's going to be 400K recorded deaths by the time Biden is inaugurated.
There were 407K US military deaths in WW2 across 4 years and about 105K since then.

They have spent over 30 Trillion in that time on the military with their rhetoric of 'fighting for our freedom'. Last year saw a refusal to act on Covid with claims of 'we have to protect the economy'.

JohnFalstaff

jill_valentine wrote: »

It's so strange to me that right wing gun nuts latched on to that phrase.

It's supposedly the 300 Spartans' response to the Persians when they told them to lay down their arms ie surrender. Fine, cool, I get the relevance, but the Persians went on to do exactly that, they slaughtered the Spartans to a man and did, in fact, take their weapons at their leisure from the corpses afterwards? So as a badass battle cry it's rather hollow.

I know that kind of nuance is lost on them, but it's just another one of those things you have to narrow your eyes at every time you see it. Their weird Sparta fetish is absurd in every dimension - show me Sparta on a map today, I can show you Athens no problem.

It's similar to the popular NRA slogan 'I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands'.

It's not that strange when you consider that much of their rhetoric and symbolism seems more appropriate to that of a violent death cult.

jill_valentine

Tell me how wrote: »

Yesterday she wore a mask saying 'Molon Labe' which translates as 'Come and Get them'

A week after congress was overrun with second degree fantacists in cosplay gear.

It's so strange to me that right wing gun nuts latched on to that phrase.

It's supposedly the 300 Spartans' response to the Persians when they told them to lay down their arms ie surrender. Fine, cool, I get the relevance, but the Persians went on to do exactly that, they slaughtered the Spartans to a man and did, in fact, take their weapons at their leisure from the corpses afterwards? So as a badass battle cry it's rather hollow.

I know that kind of nuance is lost on them, but it's just another one of those things you have to narrow your eyes at every time you see it. Their weird Sparta fetish is absurd in every dimension - show me Sparta on a map today, I can show you Athens no problem.

listermint

Tell me how wrote: »

Yesterday she wore a mask saying 'Molon Labe' which translates as 'Come and Get them'

A week after congress was overrun with second degree fantacists in cosplay gear.

Incredibly broken country.

This year will be eventful.

Covid isn't the half of it

Tell me how

Podge_irl wrote: »

Rep Greene, the QAnon representative, just gave her speech on the floor of the House of Representatives, broadcast live on CNN, while wearing a facemask saying "censored".

Not sure it gets more hypocritical than that.

Yesterday she wore a mask saying 'Molon Labe' which translates as 'Come and Get them'

A week after congress was overrun with second degree fantacists in cosplay gear.

fash

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Even Tom has probably unfriended him by now.

The only online account he has left is his Eir account.

BonnieSituation

I missed the question that Rep. Mast asked.and.then went silent waiting on some answer. Snyone got an idea?

How long is left?

Podge_irl

Rep Greene, the QAnon representative, just gave her speech on the floor of the House of Representatives, broadcast live on CNN, while wearing a facemask saying "censored".

Not sure it gets more hypocritical than that.

marno21

Nadler yielded Democratic time to Rep. Jaime Herrera Buetler (R) from Washington who spoke in favour of impeachment. She showed her hand before the speeches began though.

BonnieSituation

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The republican speakers are getting worked up.

All of those who don't want to impeach are just engaging in insane amounts of whataboutery.