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blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

blanch wants to talk about the 'RA and the Shinners.
blanch always wants to talk about the 'RA and the Shinners when the party he doesn't vote for is under fire.

There are an awful lot of angry white male republicans on this thread complaining about the government and the State. It has echoes of somewhere else that I can't quite put my finger on.

The culture and society that led to the mother and baby homes scandal was one created by the angry white male republicans of the time, with the same toxic exclusionary nationalist ideology as those of today, albeit one more deeply rooted in the mores of the Catholic Church and from a different political party.

FrancieBrady

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Straight out of the NRA's playbook - mass shooting occurs and people want to talk about gun control, cue NRA: "Today of all days, cop on and show some empathy."

blanch wants to talk about the 'RA and the Shinners.
blanch always wants to talk about the 'RA and the Shinners when the party he doesn't vote for is under fire.

FreudianSlippers

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

I am embarrassed for you Blanch. Today of all days, cop on and show some empathy.

Straight out of the NRA's playbook - mass shooting occurs and people want to talk about gun control, cue NRA: "Today of all days, cop on and show some empathy."

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Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

I am embarrassed for you Blanch. Today of all days, cop on and show some empathy.

You tell him, Catherine!

FreudianSlippers

Wanderer78 wrote: »

The needs of the economy were far more important, the poor petal it is

smurgen wrote: »

What needs of the economy are being met now?

IMHO it was pure populist garbage and, as per usual, a give-in to their relatives on the LVA (and let's not act like that's limited to FF/FG... everyone in politics seems to have some kompromat over their head by the way they cave to their every demand).

The "spin" now of being like "well yiz wanted this and we warned you!" is only half bull****. I'd imagine we'd have the usual suspects on here moaning about Christmas being cancelled by the FF/FG Government if they didn't relax restrictions.

There's no winning with the professional hurlers from the ditch, but even a stopped clock is correct twice a day and on the relaxation of rules over Christmas, they're correct. It was a huge mistake.

Wanderer78

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Honestly with all the pseudo-intellectualism coming from a certain poster I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was RBB himself.

id imagine a couple of politicians are wondering around here alright

FreudianSlippers

blanch152 wrote: »

The using of victims for political purposes by Boyd-Barrett and the like over the last couple of days has been nothing short of disgusting.

Honestly with all the pseudo-intellectualism coming from a certain poster I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was RBB himself.

Wanderer78

smurgen wrote:

What needs of the economy are being met now?

Exactly, the needs of the economy, now no longer match the needs of the humans it was created for

smurgen

Wanderer78 wrote: »

The needs of the economy were far more important, the poor petal it is

What needs of the economy are being met now?

Wanderer78

smurgen wrote:

An important fact check as the government spin picks up pace.Did the government actually follow NPHET's advice heading into December? Nope.

The needs of the economy were far more important, the poor petal it is

smurgen

An important fact check as the government spin picks up pace.Did the government actually follow NPHET's advice heading into December? Nope.

https://www.thejournal.ie/factfind-stephen-donnelly-nphet-5323575-Jan2021/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true

James Brown

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Did Eamon Ryan actually fall asleep again today or is it fake news?

Not heard. TBF, it doesn't really matter.

Jinglejangle69

Did Eamon Ryan actually fall asleep again today or is it fake news?

Cluedo Monopoly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Donnelly trying to bully the Leas CC and coming off second best. Hard to dispel the arrogant cloud around him.

https://twitter.com/PapaFilippoG/status/1349447574042914816

She is a better TD than anyone in FFG. Arrogant fecker.

Cluedo Monopoly

Excellent speech by Catherine Connolly TD in the Dail today.

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/listen-galway-td-critical-of-final-report-on-mother-and-baby-homes/

A lady of great compassion. Probably the best contribution by anyone today. It's just 5 mins long.

FrancieBrady

Donnelly trying to bully the Leas CC and coming off second best. Hard to dispel the arrogant cloud around him.

https://twitter.com/PapaFilippoG/status/1349447574042914816

James Brown

Triangle wrote: »

FFs the gardai are part of the state. Specifically the law part of the state.
He can't mention every fecking arm of the state.

By saying the state, it emcompasses the entirety. But I've only ever seen you complain and find fault.

What he said was fairly encompassing on every aspect of life back then.

Edit: if he did break it down to particular sections of the state, you'd probably be on complaining he forgot one

The survivors want specific institutions such as the Garda, Church/religious affiliates and political parties to apologise for their role. A blanket 'we' apology isn't enough. I agree.

Edit: He did and I do as do the victims.

Fann Linn

Triangle wrote: »

Off topic on this thread, but they still haven't identified where some of the murdered people were buried. Not a great apology imo.

Comparing bodies now. Terrible.

Triangle

McMurphy wrote: »

The Provos apologized for all the non combatants that were killed by them during the troubles. Why would anyone else apologise on their behalf after that? Did you miss the report from a few weeks ago that stated they (Sinn Fein and the army council) were completely separate from one another, neither one controlled the other?

But, are you trying to deflect here, after whinging about the likes of this happening?

Surely not blanch, surely not.

Off topic on this thread, but they still haven't identified where some of the murdered people were buried. Not a great apology imo.

Fann Linn

Triangle wrote: »

FFs the gardai are part of the state. Specifically the law part of the state.
He can't mention every fecking arm of the state.

By saying the state, it emcompasses the entirety. But I've only ever seen you complain and find fault.

What he said was fairly encompassing on every aspect of life back then.

Well I thought the one arm of the State with responsibility for law and order should have been mentioned specifically for their negligence.

Fann Linn

Bowie wrote: »

No, he apologised for you on your behalf. It really is the 'we all partied', 'all went mad' attitude.

Tell him thanks. At least Neary and some of the nuns came out and apologised. Was wondering would he put the hand up but obviously he's going down the 'we never had a bailout' route.

Triangle

Bowie wrote: »

Have I a chip on my shoulder over this? ****ing right I do.

I'm quoting a survivor asking why the Garda specifically were not mentioned. She was taken from her home 8 months pregnant by a Garda, a Priest and a Doctor. She specifically statedy that the local FF/FG politicians were well aware and she's asking why MM said state and 'we' but not the Garda and politicians. Will you explain your chip or need to hand wave that away?

FFs the gardai are part of the state. Specifically the law part of the state.
He can't mention every fecking arm of the state.

By saying the state, it emcompasses the entirety. But I've only ever seen you complain and find fault.

What he said was fairly encompassing on every aspect of life back then.

Edit: if he did break it down to particular sections of the state, you'd probably be on complaining he forgot one

FrancieBrady

Bowie wrote: »

No, he apologised for you on your behalf. It really is the 'we all partied', 'all went mad' attitude.

Same with Covid...twas the people wot done it.

James Brown

Fann Linn wrote: »

Did MM apologise on behalf of FF considering they were in power for most of 20th century?

No, he apologised for you on your behalf. It really is the 'we all partied', 'all went mad' attitude.

Floppybits

Fann Linn wrote: »

Just the blueshirts. Was to be expected anyway.

They must be stuck in deflect mode.

Fann Linn

SmokyMo wrote: »

Are people really trying to compare body tallies between IRA and this? We are talking about babies, children and infants in A THOUSANDS over decades. Lukewarm level range IQ.

Just the blueshirts. Was to be expected anyway.

SmokyMo

Are people really trying to compare body tallies between IRA and this? We are talking about babies, children and infants in A THOUSANDS over decades. Lukewarm level range IQ.

Fann Linn

Did MM apologise on behalf of FF considering they were in power for most of 20th century?

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

Martin apologised for the Mother and Baby House wrongs. Still waiting on Gerry, Mary-Lou and Michelle to apologise for all the wrongs committed by the PIRA.

The Provos apologized for all the non combatants that were killed by them during the troubles. Why would anyone else apologise on their behalf after that? Did you miss the report from a few weeks ago that stated they (Sinn Fein and the army council) were completely separate from one another, neither one controlled the other?

But, are you trying to deflect here, after whinging about the likes of this happening?

Surely not blanch, surely not.

Cluedo Monopoly

blanch152 wrote: »

Martin apologised for the Mother and Baby House wrongs. Still waiting on Gerry, Mary-Lou and Michelle to apologise for all the wrongs committed by the PIRA.

I am embarrassed for you Blanch. Today of all days, cop on and show some empathy.