McMurphy wrote: » You need someone to comment on something completely unconnected and unrelated before you will condemn what went on in the states mother and baby homes? Have I got this right?
blanch152 wrote: » No, you don't have it right.
smurgen wrote: » Blanch. FFG were in power when thousands of children died in mother and child homes and that report was out today. You're so concerned about death I'm wondering why I didn't see you comment on that today. Or the brutality and neglect overseen by the government and institutions at those times.
blanch152 wrote: » Once you confirm you agree with me on the point made about the road taken by John Hume.............
blanch152 wrote: » Based on what evidence? They can't bring FDI to Belmullet or West Donegal, so what chance Northern Ireland?
blanch152 wrote: » You put up a Twitter link to some eejit who had written to the SoS about a border poll. I had a good laugh at his letter.
jm08 wrote: » The ''eejit'' who tweeted the bit about the Fine Gael research about a UI is Professor of the School of Law in Queens University. He teachesInternational Human Rights Law Migration and Human Rights Contemporary Issues in British and Irish Human Rights Constitutional Law https://pure.qub.ac.uk/en/persons/colin-harvey
FrancieBrady wrote: » Death at the hands of the state or because of the state just doesn't spin some people's moral compass.
smurgen wrote: » John Hume was mocked ridiculed and derided by the establishment in his day. The Indo and Sunday Indo derided him on a weekly basis. If it was today you'd be mocking him in here.
blanch152 wrote: » Bit of an eejit with his letter to the SOS, academics can be the biggest eejits of the lot.
jm08 wrote: » What is ''eejity'' about the letter. I'm curious to know why you dismiss it with such arrogance.
blanch152 wrote: » As I said already, it ignores the bleedin' obvious. The nationalist share of the vote has declined over the last decade or more from 40-43% to 38-40%, yet the sense of the letter is wonderment over why a border poll hasn't been called. Looking at the facts, there is no pressure for a vote on the SoS. Sure there is political noise, but hard cold analysis would demonstrate that the evidence doesn't support it - the voting patterns being the most obvious. Very surprised that an academic wouldn't understand this.
FrancieBrady wrote: » He wasn't asking for a poll to be called blanch...read the bleedin' letter. Why do you misrepresent what posters say here and what others are saying so much?
blanch152 wrote: » He was asking the SoS to explain the bleeding obvious. The reasons why a poll hasn't been called are clear and obvious. If he doesn't understand why a poll hasn't been called, and why no explanation is needed, then he is an eejit.
SDLP leader Colum Eastwood, who in November asked the secretary of state in Westminster what criteria he would employ when deciding to call a referendum, said the approach taken by Mr Lewis and the NIO was "totally deficient". "Whether the legal obligation to provide the circumstances for a poll exists or not, it is clearly in the interests of a fulsome debate on this island’s future that everyone knows how the decision will be made," he said.
Kraftwerk wrote: » Just popped in to see the latest. Francie rounding on 2k posts in a single thread and shinners still flat out with the whataboutery. Have you lads seriously nothing better than to do with your lives than live in here posting the same thing over and over and over again?
FrancieBrady wrote: » He wasn't looking for 'reasons a poll hasn't been called' either. Perhaps you might see what was being asked for if you read what this representative asked too, which re-iterates the issue: Are the SDLP being 'eejits' too?
jh79 wrote: » Was this not dealt with already with the McCord case? Regarding the letter, there is no indication that NI wants out of the UK so can't see where their right to self determination is being denied. They want to remain in the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU. It's no different than an individual county having to accept the majority national vote in a referendum in the Republic.
McMurphy wrote: » The North voted by a clear majority to remain in the EU though, so its not as clear cut as your post makes it out to be either.
jh79 wrote: » Well it is, if they want to remain part of the UK they have to respect the wishes of the majority. There is no indication that they want to leave the UK since Brexit. No different than Roscommon having to respect the wishes of the majority in the SSM referendum.
McMurphy wrote: » Anything more recent than the 27th October 2020 do you know?MORE people would vote for a united Ireland than to maintain the north's union with Britain, according to the findings of a new opinion poll.
jm08 wrote: » He asks in the letter to explain what the SoS's criteria would be in calling a border poll. He also asks if he will be consulting with the Irish Government among other things. Do tell if you know the answers to all of his questions.
jh79 wrote: » It's one of the weaknesses of the GFA, the SoS is under no obligation to explain any decision made with regards to a border poll.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Works both ways jh79. There is also no onus on the SoS not to explain what his criteria might be, when asked.
jh79 wrote: » Self determination as long as the British approve.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Precisely. Now you are getting to the nub of nationalist issues.
jh79 wrote: » When the McCord case was in the news were you not of the opinion that it was the only solution to how a border poll was called? Me and others at the time were pointing it out as a major failing of the GFA especially from a Republican perspective.
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