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Tina Satchwell *Mod note in op*

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    #62
    Recliner
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    tara73 wrote: »
    I think it doesn't matter, generally spoken, who it is. behind every missing person are almost always parents, sisters, brothers, wifes/ husbands, partners and so on alive who are suffering a nightmare every day with not knowing what happened to their beloved one. I can't really imagine what those people must go through every day.

    I just meant that as this is the Tina Satchwell thread, I hope it is her.

    Obviously as long as the person is identified and some family gets closure, that's what matters.


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    #63
    Ann22
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    No, I think she was last seen at the car boot sale. The day before.

    Richard said she was telling people at it about how much she loved him. Very strange..imagine doing that... Unless she was really odd or intellectually challenged..I found it hard to swallow.


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    #64
    buttercups88
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    Jumping on thread but did anyone read that a large item of jewellery had been found with the remains and then elsewhere it was said to be a crucifix?
    I just noticed in some of the photos of Tina she has a very large crucifix on.


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    #65
    fin12
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    Interesting how he’s so quiet this time..... when they were doing a search of Castlemartyr that time, his face was all over the papers.


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    #66
    freshpopcorn
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    buttercups88 wrote: »
    Jumping on thread but did anyone read that a large item of jewellery had been found with the remains and then elsewhere it was said to be a crucifix?
    I just noticed in some of the photos of Tina she has a very large crucifix on.

    I read that it was religious jewelry.


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    #67
    fin12
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    Here’s another one of his lovely interviews where he said Tina used to beat him up.

    https://extra.ie/2018/03/14/news/irish-news/tina-satchwells-husband-spent-time-behind-bars-admits-violent-marraige


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    #68
    Gadgetman496
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    buttercups88 wrote: »
    I just noticed in some of the photos of Tina she has a very large crucifix on.

    Don't ever recall seeing a photo of her wearing a large crucifix.

    Have seen pleanty of her wearing loud coloured chunky bead necklaces.

    @buttercups88: Can you link to a photo of her wearing a very large crucifix?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #69
    freshpopcorn
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    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Don't ever recall seeing a photo of her wearing a large crucifix.

    Have seen pleanty of her wearing loud coloured chunky bead necklaces.

    @buttercups88: Can you link to a photo of her wearing a very large crucifix?

    It's a terrible photo but it looks like one.
    2190095_1_articlelarge_tina4_1_.jpg


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    #70
    Gadgetman496
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    It's a terrible photo but it looks like one.
    2190095_1_articlelarge_tina4_1_.jpg

    Cheers freshpopcorn, I had not seen that photo before. Interesting.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #71
    TheQuietBeatle
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    Chains like that are fairly common though in Ireland


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    #72
    gozunda
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Don't think Richard ever said, all he remembers is she came downstairs, he made her some tea and toast and then he went to Dungarvan for some fish at Tina's request and when he got back Tina was missing.

    Did a search and it seems that there was no info on what she was wearing on the day she disappeared as explained by her husband
    He said he doesn’t know what Tina was wearing when she left the house last March because she had so many clothes and she was in a bathrobe when he said goodbye to her before he went shopping in nearby Dungarvan, Co Waterford.

    That obviously explains why the gardai weren't able to include any detail on what Tina was wearing on the garda missing person notice on their website.


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    #73
    Larsso30
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    MikeOxsgreen wrote: »
    The poor families of those missing people.
    Crathers.

    As an aside. There are a lot of missing Chinese people in there.

    That is frightening. Fair few there can be deduced to going into the water from where their car was found (speculation on my part I know)

    The amount of non nationals though, jesus there is a lot missing.


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    #74
    TheValeyard
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    Larsso30 wrote: »
    That is frightening. Fair few there can be deduced to going into the water from where their car was found (speculation on my part I know)

    The amount of non nationals though, jesus there is a lot missing.

    Are they missing or moved jurisdictions?

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    #75
    silver2020
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    You'd think Tina Satchwell was a saint and that all the posters here knew her personally.

    But the fact is no-one knew her. No-one here, no-one in Youghal, no-one anywhere.

    She was a loner and introverted.

    He was less so, but still very private.

    Her "family" came out talking about her, but rarely saw her. She rarely visited them, they very rarely visited her. But yet here on boards, everyone seem to be best mates with her.

    You'd be VERY surprised at how different people are away from the public life / social media. In an area I give some help to, you'd be even more surprised at how controlling some women can be and in many cases that exude a pleasantness in public, but are utterly evil behind closed doors. The same with men.

    Too much of commentary on this is based on tabloid type thinking or TV soap opera storylines (Eastenders and Coronations street are NOT real!) coupled with bits of CSI (also not real) and sprinkled with a large dose of poppycock.



    I'd agree with one poster - either he's the most cunning perpetrator of all (no he's not, he's a fairly simple guy that some people just don't like) or its a personal tragedy.


    Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal.

    If anyone here worked in the mental health area, even as a volunteer, you may have a different view of things and how women can be particularly badly affected especially by Bipolar disorder and if they don't get help and medication, it can fester badly.


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    #76
    The Inbetween is mine
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    "The fact is no-one knew her"
    Really..how do you know that?!


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    #77
    JeffKenna
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    The Inbetween is mine wrote: »
    "The fact is no-one knew her"
    Really..how do you know that?!

    Speak to anyone from Youghal or Fermoy, most people didn't seem to know her.


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    #78
    Seth Brundle
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    silver2020 wrote: »
    Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal.
    Usually with suicide you have a body, if I'm not mistaken!


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    #79
    The Inbetween is mine
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    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Speak to anyone from Youghal or Fermoy, most people didn't seem to know her.

    Most? Ok.. that's not all


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    #80
    Larsso30
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    silver2020 wrote: »
    You'd think Tina Satchwell was a saint and that all the posters here knew her personally.

    But the fact is no-one knew her. No-one here, no-one in Youghal, no-one anywhere.

    She was a loner and introverted.

    He was less so, but still very private.

    Her "family" came out talking about her, but rarely saw her. She rarely visited them, they very rarely visited her. But yet here on boards, everyone seem to be best mates with her.

    You'd be VERY surprised at how different people are away from the public life / social media. In an area I give some help to, you'd be even more surprised at how controlling some women can be and in many cases that exude a pleasantness in public, but are utterly evil behind closed doors. The same with men.

    Too much of commentary on this is based on tabloid type thinking or TV soap opera storylines (Eastenders and Coronations street are NOT real!) coupled with bits of CSI (also not real) and sprinkled with a large dose of poppycock.



    I'd agree with one poster - either he's the most cunning perpetrator of all (no he's not, he's a fairly simple guy that some people just don't like) or its a personal tragedy.


    Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal.

    If anyone here worked in the mental health area, even as a volunteer, you may have a different view of things and how women can be particularly badly affected especially by Bipolar disorder and if they don't get help and medication, it can fester badly.

    While not dismissing your points, the sighting of male and female going into Woods and only one coming out coupled with missing money and historically and statistically it's usually the partner lend credence to the theory she was taken /killed.

    That said no one really knows as you say, I just don't think you can dismiss anything in this case, it seems to have more layers than other missing peoples cases. Get the impression the Garda have a very open mind on it too


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    #81
    Larsso30
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    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Are they missing or moved jurisdictions?

    Do wonder that myself, seems so many just makes more sense they left the country


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    #82
    silver2020
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    Larsso30 wrote: »
    While not dismissing your points, the sighting of male and female going into Woods and only one coming out coupled with missing money and historically and statistically it's usually the partner lend credence to the theory she was taken /killed.

    That said no one really knows as you say, I just don't think you can dismiss anything in this case, it seems to have more layers than other missing peoples cases. Get the impression the Garda have a very open mind on it too

    Sighted by who?

    Remember many people "see" things and then can't give actual details.

    The Toscan Du Plantier case is a classic example

    But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.


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    #83
    julyjane
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    Ann22 wrote: »
    Richard said she was telling people at it about how much she loved him. Very strange..imagine doing that... Unless she was really odd or intellectually challenged..I found it hard to swallow.

    Or if she was trauma bonded. I got out of an abusive relationship many years ago and afterwards wondered why I had tried so hard when no matter how hard I tried my ex still treated me badly. Then I read about something called trauma bonding that happens to victims of abuse and saw exactly why.

    I'm not saying that RS was an abusive husband, but in general if a victim behaves over lovingly towards an abuser it's because they're trauma bonded. He could have been a lovely husband and she could have been an abuser for all any of us know, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors.


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    #84
    Larsso30
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    silver2020 wrote: »
    Sighted by who?

    Remember many people "see" things and then can't give actual details.

    The Toscan Du Plantier case is a classic example

    But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

    I am not saying the sighting is correct, just that there was one. Like with all missing people cases, all sightings have to be considered as possible leads. Unless can be proven it wasn't her they have to keep it as possible.


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    #85
    gozunda
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    silver2020 wrote: »
    You'd think Tina Satchwell was a saint and that all the posters here knew her personally.But the fact is no-one knew her. No-one here, no-one in Youghal, no-one anywhere.She was a loner and introverted.
    He was less so, but still very private.
    Her "family" came out talking about her, but rarely saw her. She rarely visited them, they very rarely visited her. But yet here on boards, everyone seem to be best mates with her.
    You'd be VERY surprised at how different people are away from the public life / social media. In an area I give some help to, you'd be even more surprised at how controlling some women can be and in many cases that exude a pleasantness in public, but are utterly evil behind closed doors. The same with men. Too much of commentary on this is based on tabloid type thinking or TV soap opera storylines (Eastenders and Coronations street are NOT real!) coupled with bits of CSI (also not real) and sprinkled with a large dose of poppycock.
    I'd agree with one poster - either he's the most cunning perpetrator of all (no he's not, he's a fairly simple guy that some people just don't like) or its a personal tragedy.
    Why hasn't anyone gone down the route of a planned suicide to punish him as much as possible. - Not nearly as far fetched as some of the theories here especially if she was menopausal. If anyone here worked in the mental health area, even as a volunteer, you may have a different view of things and how women can be particularly badly affected especially by Bipolar disorder and if they don't get help and medication, it can fester badly.

    Thats a very odd comment. Where have "all" the posters claimed anyone was a 'saint' on this thread or are 'best mates" with ?

    Tbh much of what you say above seems to have been gleamed from tabloids type reporting / speculation and or projection.

    The only thing we do know is what has reported by the gardai and direct interviews.

    Most of this thread is based on the recent discovery of remains. So yeah I reckon wild speculation on medical conditions festering or otherwise really doesn't help tbh.


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    #86
    silver2020
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Thats a very odd comment. Where have "all" the posters claimed anyone was a 'saint' on this thread or are 'best mates" with ?

    Tbh much of what you say above seems to have been gleamed from tabloids type reporting / speculation and or projection.

    The only thing we do know is what has reported by the gardai and direct interviews.

    Most of this thread is based on the recent discovery of remains. So yeah I reckon wild speculation on medical conditions festering or otherwise really doesn't help tbh.

    read the previous thread and you'll see that certain posters have painted a very rosy picture of her as if they knew her.

    No-one knew her. Not her family, not neighbours. No-one.


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    eviltwin
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    silver2020 wrote: »
    read the previous thread and you'll see that certain posters have painted a very rosy picture of her as if they knew her.

    No-one knew her. Not her family, not neighbours. No-one.

    Did you? You seem very knowledgeable about a woman no one knew.


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    #88
    P.Walnuts
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    silver2020 wrote: »

    But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

    Really sounds like you're hoping to get a reaction from people to be honest.


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    silver2020 wrote: »
    Sighted by who?

    Remember many people "see" things and then can't give actual details.

    The Toscan Du Plantier case is a classic example

    But exactly, nothing can be dismissed, hence giving a different angle which many will probably attack me for because it doesn't match their views.

    Definitely have to consider all possibilities with this case. At least a body has been found now so hopefully they’ll be able to work out the cause of death.


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    #90
    gozunda
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    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Speak to anyone from Youghal or Fermoy, most people didn't seem to know her.

    If I'm not mistaken the couple had only moved to Youghal the year previously and were in the process of doing up the house they bought. . So not that unusual for people in youghal to not have got to know Tina especially if they didn't have family there. Though I do seem to remember interviews with locals who certainly remember her and saw her out regularly walking with her dogs etc.


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    Beechwoodspark
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    Ann22 wrote: »
    Richard said she was telling people at it about how much she loved him. Very strange..imagine doing that... Unless she was really odd or intellectually challenged..I found it hard to swallow.

    Why? - Maybe she just loved him and wanted to express that?

    They seemed to have been an extremely private couple with very little involvement with ppl outside their relationship


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