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The Weekend On One With Brendan O'Connor

generalgerry

Yep, that is what they are calling it apparently just heard it announced by the continuity announcer.

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ButtersSuki

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Lets see who Brendan has on... The happy pear.. Goodbye

Those f*ckwits.....

ShamNNspace

Are they "connected"?

pc7

I did laugh at that Cat. They annoy me too Brendan

[Deleted User]

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Lets see who Brendan has on... The happy pear.. Goodbye

He's been a bit sarcastic with them there, all the same. Made a very pointed dig about his not having to put his swimming habits onto Instagram. I got the feeling, for some reason, he's a tad p1$$ed off with them & it wasn't his choice to have them on.

generalgerry

ShamNNspace wrote: »

Lets see who Brendan has on... The happy pear.. Goodbye

Neven Maguire is just after shutting off the radio and saying "How do those Happy Pear b*stards get so much time on RTE"

ShamNNspace

Lets see who Brendan has on... The happy pear.. Goodbye

generalgerry

I think the whole topic of footage of your actions distributed on social media, whether sexual or non sexual, is a real issue. During the week a guy delivering oil skidded on ice on a rural road and rolled the tanker in to a river. Very lucky to get away with his life. But by the end of the day CCTV footage of the incident was made public from a home CCTV system and went around the world. Nobody is afforded a mistake any more without the footage of it going viral.

Beechwoodspark

Almost an hour into the show and not one comment on the thread

Says a lot about how the show is going under BOC

Dan Jaman

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Also, wasn't it a vaccine that was used for something else, that was slightly modified to treat Covid?

Which if true most of the testing would have been done, or did I imagine all of that?

Yep, that bit's true, too.

Johnthemanager

Dan Jaman wrote: »

I did wonder how the normal two, three or four year timescale that a vaccine would go through was being short-circuited.
I heard from a Pfizer person that the 'rush' wasn't actually hurried in any clinical or methodical way, it was just that the normal fallow periods where results come in, get analysed then lie on someone's desk for weeks or months were cut out, so straight on to the next step.
Seemed to make sense to me.
I'll have a vaccine. In fact, I think I'll have two, just for the hell of it.

Also, wasn't it a vaccine that was used for something else, that was slightly modified to treat Covid?

Which if true most of the testing would have been done, or did I imagine all of that?

Dan Jaman

generalgerry wrote: »

But if you're taking the argument of people asking questions being opposed to science - science would suggest that the vaccines be tested over longer periods of times not rushed, science would suggest there be a double blind test between groups of people who have vaccines and those who don't. And even the best science companies have to be liable for the commercial products they produce.

I did wonder how the normal two, three or four year timescale that a vaccine would go through was being short-circuited.
I heard from a Pfizer person that the 'rush' wasn't actually hurried in any clinical or methodical way, it was just that the normal fallow periods where results come in, get analysed then lie on someone's desk for weeks or months were cut out, so straight on to the next step.
Seemed to make sense to me.
I'll have a vaccine. In fact, I think I'll have two, just for the hell of it.

Spanish Eyes

On another note, the second half of this show on Sunday is devoted to the AAAARRRRTs. (Fillums and TV ****e sorry).

Bloody hell, just give us a break here.

And moving to NT is sport after 12 noon, as if there isn't enough wall to wall straight after the show.

What is it about Sport news on Sundays? Thank fk for other radio stations is all I can say now.

Robert McGrath

generalgerry wrote: »

The burden of proof on any product, whether pharma or non pharma, is that it is safe - not that you assume it is safe until proven otherwise. The gold standard test is that you have a placebo group that don't get the vaccine and a group that do get the vaccine and you test it over a period of time. This has not been done in this case.

What do you mean it hasn’t been done? Where the hell are you getting that information?

Infoanon

generalgerry wrote: »

The burden of proof on any product, whether pharma or non pharma, is that it is safe - not that you assume it is safe until proven otherwise. The gold standard test is that you have a placebo group that don't get the vaccine and a group that do get the vaccine and you test it over a period of time. This has not been done in this case.

Once again proving that you didn't listen to the programme otherwise you would have known that Karl Dieter with his anti vaxxer agenda this morning tried to highlight that people in both the vaccinated group and the placebo group got covid.

Having a different point of view is all well and good if it has any bearing in fact and evidence.

Dieter playing the sympathy card because he was been attacked on twitter after his comments and his faux annoyance at being shut down brought a smile to my face.

Good show today - I assume BOC is back next week?

generalgerry

Robert McGrath wrote: »

Em, where’s your evidence that the usual safety protocols and standard trials weren’t carried out here? The problem with people “just asking questions” about science is that sometimes they’re not interested in the answers - they’re going to keep “just asking questions”

The burden of proof on any product, whether pharma or non pharma, is that it is safe - not that you assume it is safe until proven otherwise. The gold standard test is that you have a placebo group that don't get the vaccine and a group that do get the vaccine and you test it over a period of time. This has not been done in this case.

ShamNNspace

ButtersSuki wrote: »

That rabble rousing, sh*t stirring, racist, race baiter should not be given any sort of public platform to spew her hate speech from. A truly disgusting and nasty person who is using her toxic hatred to fund her lifestyle, and to boost her profile and career.

I can tell you direct from the horse’s mouth that she is not very popular amongst her academic peers in UCD for her behaviour, but alas, most seem afraid to call her out on her rhetoric for fear they’ll be labeled racist by her - which of course they will as it’s her refuge from any sort of criticism.

Well funny enough she was given a leg up from rte when she was appointed to the rte audience council in 2011. A 6 year gig and I'm sure you know this crowd advise the board on programming, why her? who picked her?.. This after arriving here from England where she was high up in the Nigerian - British association... As Jim Royle might say REFUGEE MY ARSE

[Deleted User]

ButtersSuki wrote: »

That rabble rousing, sh*t stirring, racist, race baiter should not be given any sort of public platform to spew her hate speech from. A truly disgusting and nasty person who is using her toxic hatred to fund her lifestyle, and to boost her profile and career.

I can tell you direct from the horse’s mouth that she is not very popular amongst her academic peers in UCD for her behaviour, but alas, most seem afraid to call her out on her rhetoric for fear they’ll be labeled racist by her - which of course they will as it’s her refuge from any sort of criticism.

People need to develop a pair, come out and be called racist if necessary.

ButtersSuki

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Prof Strangelove is another fine example of the quality lecturers operating in the weird and wacky world of UCD alongside the eminent Ebun Joseph OBE.

UCD must be so proud.

That rabble rousing, sh*t stirring, racist, race baiter should not be given any sort of public platform to spew her hate speech from. A truly disgusting and nasty person who is using her toxic hatred to fund her lifestyle, and to boost her profile and career.

I can tell you direct from the horse’s mouth that she is not very popular amongst her academic peers in UCD for her behaviour, but alas, most seem afraid to call her out on her rhetoric for fear they’ll be labeled racist by her - which of course they will as it’s her refuge from any sort of criticism.

Gen.Zhukov

generalgerry wrote: »

They should put Professor Paul on 350 a week and see how much love he's feeling then.

Prof Strangelove is another fine example of the quality lecturers operating in the weird and wacky world of UCD alongside the eminent Ebun Joseph OBE.

UCD must be so proud.

Brendan Bendar

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Hopefully he is not on anything like the wedge Maid Marian was on ?

Would hope the job is not "permanent" surely not ?

Are you saying that this is a permanent job and highest paid media job ?

Is that what you are saying ??

I would hope, Nevin, that the ‘chair’ of programmes like this, as it was very well described on other threads, does not come with a specific salary tag.

Surely just because Marian got xx amount shouldn’t mean that Ballsy should expect the same.In other words the job comes with a salary attached!!!

You negotiate and either take or turn down the salary or contract offered,on an individual basis.

This ‘hierarchy’ business got RTE in trouble before .

The late Gabriel Mary Byrne apparently a contributor.

Nevin Parsnipp

generalgerry wrote: »

wtf? When did he say that Cat? I would have been thinking along the same lines as the other poster - Why would you even consider thinking about leaving one of the few permanent, highest paid media jobs?

Hopefully he is not on anything like the wedge Maid Marian was on ?

Would hope the job is not "permanent" surely not ?

Are you saying that this is a permanent job and highest paid media job ?

Is that what you are saying ??

Nevin Parsnipp

newcavanman wrote: »

Hes there for the long haul, hes been a very good boy, he hasnt rocked the boat at all. Hes moved a long long way from the Cutting Edge. It seems to me, he knows this is as good as it gets, he cant break the Tubridy/D'arcy stranglehold . Weekend daytime is all hes getting, and if he doesnt like it, they have poor auld Marty Whelan there as an example of what happens if you arent a team player

Just listened to the Newstalk offering in oppo to BO'C...have to say I was very impressed ...good fast paced interviewing and nice light moderating.

Nice change from that whiney Cork accent ......

Robert McGrath

generalgerry wrote: »

And even the best science companies have to be liable for the commercial products they produce.

Any medication is likely to cause side effects in a small percentage of people because of allergies etc - just because some people are allergic to penicillin doesn’t mean that penicillin is not “safe”. If the government is responsible for rolling out the vaccine to a few million people then it seems reasonable that they take responsibility for getting the informed consent whereby the patient is aware of the risks and taking responsibility for any issues that arise out of that in the future

plastic glass

generalgerry wrote: »

But if you're taking the argument of people asking questions being opposed to science - science would suggest that the vaccines be tested over longer periods of times not rushed, science would suggest there be a double blind test between groups of people who have vaccines and those who don't. And even the best science companies have to be liable for the commercial products they produce.

Dieter didn’t say anything about who should be liable. That is not the question here. That is a healthy debate topic but will inevitably used by anti vaxxers as a segue onto vaccines causing autism etc
Hopefully next week we can have a debate on whether the earth is flat or not

Robert McGrath

generalgerry wrote: »

But if you're taking the argument of people asking questions being opposed to science - science would suggest that the vaccines be tested over longer periods of times not rushed, science would suggest there be a double blind test between groups of people who have vaccines and those who don't. And even the best science companies have to be liable for the commercial products they produce.

Em, where’s your evidence that the usual safety protocols and standard trials weren’t carried out here? The problem with people “just asking questions” about science is that sometimes they’re not interested in the answers - they’re going to keep “just asking questions”

generalgerry

plastic glass wrote: »

How can you have an opposing view to science? Isn’t that the opposite of WOKE? Creationism, the world is flat etc

But if you're taking the argument of people asking questions being opposed to science - science would suggest that the vaccines be tested over longer periods of times not rushed, science would suggest there be a double blind test between groups of people who have vaccines and those who don't. And even the best science companies have to be liable for the commercial products they produce.

generalgerry

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not suggesting Brendan is walking freely; I got the distinct impression he was trying to make it known he isn't any way secure in his current role, and that he might not be Marian's shoes for much longer. The way he said something to the effect "it's been a pleasure doing this show..." gave to me that he might be on the cusp of replacement.

wtf? When did he say that Cat? I would have been thinking along the same lines as the other poster - Why would you even consider thinking about leaving one of the few permanent, highest paid media jobs?

plastic glass

newcavanman wrote: »

Thats the spirit. Ignore opposing views and they will go away. Same applies to rampaging gangs of african youths, or making rape jokes about Catholics. If youre not a trendy WOKE cause, then in 2021 Ireland, you just dont count , you dont exist

How can you have an opposing view to science? Isn’t that the opposite of WOKE? Creationism, the world is flat etc

newcavanman

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not suggesting Brendan is walking freely; I got the distinct impression he was trying to make it known he isn't any way secure in his current role, and that he might not be Marian's shoes for much longer. The way he said something to the effect "it's been a pleasure doing this show..." gave to me that he might be on the cusp of replacement.

Hes there for the long haul, hes been a very good boy, he hasnt rocked the boat at all. Hes moved a long long way from the Cutting Edge. It seems to me, he knows this is as good as it gets, he cant break the Tubridy/D'arcy stranglehold . Weekend daytime is all hes getting, and if he doesnt like it, they have poor auld Marty Whelan there as an example of what happens if you arent a team player

newcavanman

plastic glass wrote: »

He was shot down because I’m assuming Damien is only interested in the science. Anti vaxxers don’t need a forum on rte. They get enough airtime on classic hits FM.

Thats the spirit. Ignore opposing views and they will go away. Same applies to rampaging gangs of african youths, or making rape jokes about Catholics. If youre not a trendy WOKE cause, then in 2021 Ireland, you just dont count , you dont exist