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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Tom Young

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church street 94

Anyone selling a Companies Act?

Mod - Please- no trading thru this forum

Debarramike137

does anyone have recent Company Law answers please? mine are from nearly a decade ago and i would prefer more recent ones.. PM me. thanks a lot

LS3

Anyone have an up to date grid for company and sample answers? Willing to swap notes grids sample answers for other exams

its my last exam so would really appreciate any help

bluerthanu

desk404 wrote: »

“Recognising the important role that our younger solicitors will play, it is key that we value the solicitors of the future by engaging with our students.”
- LS President, December 2020.

It’s difficult to feel valued or engaged with after yet another self-imposed deadline passes without explanation. Hoping for more engagement in 2021.

Hoping for even the most basic professional standards from the LS, as one would expect from an incredibly wealthy organisation, really is just self inflicting pain at this point.

The only hope I'll be allowing myself with the LS is that in the not too distant future their monopoly is relinquished over our qualifications (realistically, graduates in 5+ years time).

Creol1

lawgrad49 wrote: »

Can anyone share any advice on how to prepare for the Constitutional case note Q?

Is there any pattern to the 4 cases he usually asks? Or should I just save myself the hassle and decide in advance not to do it? I left the case note question out of my revision for EU and found I saved a lot of time just knowing 2-3 key facts from each case.

I think it is difficult to predict but I found it very helpful to go to the Supreme Court website where they have an annual report each year with readable summaries of some of the leading cases.

WesternC123

Can anyone tell me if an Essay Q came up on the AG or the President in the Constitutional Nov sitting?

Supermax1988

WesternC123 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if an Essay Q came up on the AG or the President in the Constitutional Nov sitting?

Sadly it did not

FE1_2020_

Would anyone have a recent enough pdf Griffith College Constitutional manual ? Can swap as I have most of the others, thanks.

fe12020oct

would anyone recommend getting the nutshell for constitutional ?

awsah

Does any one have 2019/2020 papers/sample answers for constitutional? I only have up until 2018

fe1fi20

how are people approaching the constitutional exam?

Hazel774

WesternC123 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me if an Essay Q came up on the AG or the President in the Constitutional Nov sitting?

Constitutional November paper was:

Essay on Standing - specifically jus tertii (with reference to Mohan v Ireland and P v Judges of CC)
PQ on FO Expression (journalistic sources) I think it was mixed with a bit on exercise of judicial power/SOP
Essay on Kerins v McGuinness and O'Brien v Clerk of Dail Eireann re SOP
A PQ involving an Act of Oireachtas re fishing in Irish waters – (didn’t do this Q)
Essay on Right to Earn a Livelihood
PQ involving delegation of powers to a minister (I think! didn’t do that Q)
PQ involving someone with mental health issues detained in hospital against his will - Q asked to advise on challenging the process which led to detention . (I answered on liberty, Art 40 applications & right to life but not sure if that was 100%)
And the usual case note question

No question on AG/ President or Interpretation

LawStudent1234

Anyone else having trouble logging into their law society account? I’ve tried the last two days and it just keeps loading for me.. getting worried I won’t be able to get my results next week

maggie95

LawStudent1234 wrote: »

Anyone else having trouble logging into their law society account? I’ve tried the last two days and it just keeps loading for me.. getting worried I won’t be able to get my results next week

It was the same for me yesterday! I just tried logging in on a different browser and it worked no problem

WesternC123

Hazel774 wrote: »

Constitutional November paper was:
Essay on Standing - specifically jus tertii (with reference to Mohan v Ireland and P v Judges of CC)

PQ on FO Expression (journalistic sources) I think it was mixed with a bit on exercise of judicial power/SOP

Essay on Kerins v McGuinness and O'Brien v Clerk of Dail Eireann re SOP

A PQ involving an Act of Oireachtas re fishing in Irish waters – (didn’t do this Q)

Essay on Right to Earn a Livelihood

PQ involving delegation of powers to a minister (I think! didn’t do that Q)

PQ involving someone with mental health issues detained in hospital against his will - Q asked to advise on challenging the process which led to detention . (I answered on liberty, Art 40 applications & right to life but not sure if that was 100%)

And the usual case note question

No question on AG/ President or Interpretation

Thank you so much, this is so helpful!

legallyginger

Curious if anybody knows do we access results via the account we applied for the October sitting in?

Hazel774

legallyginger wrote: »

Curious if anybody knows do we access results via the account we applied for the October sitting in?

It's usually just your account for the law society website (candidate ID and your password)

jcarroll9

Any relatively recent grids going for property?

Creol1

Hazel774 wrote: »

It's usually just your account for the law society website (candidate ID and your password)

Where would I find my candidate ID? I was registered with the website separate to the FE-1 so I used that account to apply but I see now that there is a different account for FE-1 students which I hadn't noticed till now.

Hazel774

Creol1 wrote: »

Where would I find my candidate ID? I was registered with the website separate to the FE-1 so I used that account to apply but I see now that there is a different account for FE-1 students which I hadn't noticed till now.

I’m not too sure then sorry. You could try logging in on the homepage of the website and then go to the FE1 page where results will be and you should still be logged in, but I’m not too sure!

We were supposed to get an email a week in advance of results, which presumably would have explained how to access them, but as usual no communication from them. They still haven’t even finalised a date which is so frustrating

laworlawww

Creol1 wrote: »

Where would I find my candidate ID? I was registered with the website separate to the FE-1 so I used that account to apply but I see now that there is a different account for FE-1 students which I hadn't noticed till now.

If you email the FE1 section with your details they can give you your candidate number, you then have to create a separate account with your candidate number to access the results. Unfortunately they're not linked with the account you make to sign up for the exams.

From the email from the August sitting if this is any help:

"If you are using the online results service for the first time, enter your username and password as follows:

Username: Your username is your Law Society ID Number which appears on all letters you have received from the FE-1 section. It is not the same as your examination candidate number. If you do not know your username, please email fe1section@lawsociety.ie with your full name, date of birth and your current postal address and we will email your ID number to you to the email address given on your application form.

Password: First time users will need to reset their password. All passwords must be a minimum of 10 characters"

TCPIP

Hello all. I was thinking a while back about how the Law Society is incredibly vague on actual data that pertains to the results of the exams such as pass rates and average results so I wanted to try and compile my own data set. Obviously, if I just use my own results it won't be much of a sample so I created a Google form in the hope some other people might be willing to share their results. You can find it below:

https://forms.gle/3XLbC4RGkmr9qNYH9

This form is totally anonymous and I cannot see any data beyond the result a person submits. I am hopeful that if I got about a hundred replies per subject it would be a decent sample and probably give us an indication of the curve that each subject uses.

The results of the survey will be shared on my own website and I'll obviously share them here when that happens. I would also appreciate it if this could be shared in any Facebook groups, group chats, or just with other people who sat the exams in November to try and get as many replies as possible.

If you have any questions just lemme know!

TCPIP

Fe7 wrote: »

Yes the law society is vague, but I’m missing the correlation between why you’re collecting data and why you’re sharing the end results? What’s the point of putting all this effort into collecting and then sharing?

I ask because it wasn’t so clear how this benefits us who contribute and I would be more inclined to participate with a better understanding, as it is also a bit vague.

The only indication of pass rates per module comes from the Society's submission to the LSRA in 2016. The benefit to those who participate is that they can decide the order of subjects they select based on pass rates as well as having a better understanding of what an achievable result is.

Kellyg248

Hi, can anyone tell me if the application dates to write the March FE1's have closed?

laworlawww

Kellyg248 wrote: »

Hi, can anyone tell me if the application dates to write the March FE1's have closed?

the applications for March haven't opened yet! Presumably it will open this week after results

ann1994

Fe7 wrote: »

Has anyone ever applied for a recheck in recent times with success? I have read experiences from other posters further back.

With our results coming up, sitting on the fence if the scenario arises where I may need to consider it and as of right now I'm on the fence if its worth it.

Some have been jumped up considerably to a pass. Which I'm not surprised about, they make so many errors with various things and are so unorganised. On the other hand forking over 115 quid for maybe 30 seconds of their time to recount marks (when they should have done it correctly for the fee paid the first time) doesn't sit well with me.

Hi I had Company Law rechecked March last year and it went from 41 to 52! I would definitely recommend getting a recheck. Each of my 5 questions I picked up an extra few marks in the recheck and it pulled me up to the pass rate.

FE1Rookie

Sooo anyone else assuming the results will just be released, without the LS contacting any of us or even having a specific time on their website like the August results?

Last time I only found out they were out because one poster here noticed they were out. Complete joke.

Fe7

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Sooo anyone else assuming the results will just be released, without the LS contacting any of us or even having a specific time on their website like the August results?

Last time I only found out they were out because one poster here noticed they were out. Complete joke.

We can only hope at this rate

Fe7

ann1994 wrote: »

Hi I had Company Law rechecked March last year and it went from 41 to 52! I would definitely recommend getting a recheck. Each of my 5 questions I picked up an extra few marks in the recheck and it pulled me up to the pass rate.

Thanks for the feedback. I think they should refund the re-check fee when it does result in a change.

Kellyg248

laworlawww wrote: »

the applications for March haven't opened yet! Presumably it will open this week after results

Thank you!! I've been on the site and couldnt see them, hoped I hadnt messed the deadline!! Appreciate your quick response.
K