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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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This thread is a continuation of the megathreads for discussing the presidency of Donald Trump and any matters which relate to this.

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prawnsambo

paul71 wrote: »

The problem there is holding onto your wealth within the Kushner family. They throw their own under buses and eat them as roadkill.

The Kushners were in real financial trouble with their purchase of the building (all I remember is the number - 666 :eek:) and were in hock beyond their eyeballs. I presume things have changed with Jared's ability to leverage his position to get favourable loans and other deals to pull him out of the mire. But all of them are in grave danger of jail time. Not least for the graft.

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EltonJohn69 wrote: »

So Trump and all his inner circle/cronies get off/pardoned. But hundreds of his supporters end up going to jail ! Kinda funny

Sort of a really crap night of the long knives.

Windmill100000

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

So Trump and all his inner circle/cronies get off/pardoned. But hundreds of his supporters end up going to jail ! Kinda funny

His followers never really believed all he ever cared about was himself. Caring about the American people was always a lie. He couldn't care less once he's OK.

paul71

L1011 wrote: »

With the exception of Ivanka (the Kushners are loaded), the others are financially dependent on Daddy and whatever money he can borrow that week.

The problem there is holding onto your wealth within the Kushner family. They throw their own under buses and eat them as roadkill.

EltonJohn69

So Trump and all his inner circle/cronies get off/pardoned. But hundreds of his supporters end up going to jail ! Kinda funny

Carfacemandog

paul71 wrote: »

Correcting myself, the charge is "Incitement of insurrection".

Insurrection (along with sedition and treason) are unpardonable.

I wasn't sure that you could still impeach someone after they left office, but thankfully Matt Gaetz(!!) has already emset the record straight there! . :pac:

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1202334061504716801

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Water John wrote: »

They really helped by not wearing masks.

There were a good few candidates for the Darwin awards present including the person who apparently tasered themselves into a fatal heart attack.

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pixelburp wrote: »

"God fearing..."

I think it always says a lot about anyone who talks about themselves being "god fearing". It's such a ... I dunno, sad little turn of phrase, as if to say one lives one's life fearful of future judgement. On spiritual matters, I really don't know where I stand, but whatever level of mysticism I do have, I don't FEAR any god. I do my best, try to be as good as I can be in any given moment but I'll also stand by my actions if later on I find myself judged.

It's curious how American Conservatives often take fear as their guiding principle of belief, rather than those of charity, forgiveness and love that their bible might otherwise encourage. No wonder they're often the more prejudicial in society, given their baseline intellectualism comes from fear and hostility. Mix that with their Wealth Bible and it they just come across the least "Christian" types I could think of.

It's the one of those phrases that there lunatics spout out all the time and it's the sort of funny given that they are always the complete opposite. As Billy Connolly said every time he meets someone who claims to be a god fearing Christian he wished that he had a lion.

Carfacemandog

Carfacemandog wrote: »

The FBI just invaded Republican offices and paid a lot of home visits too! :eek:

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And now the FBI have arrested a West Virginia Republican

I'm guessing Donnies looking frantically for a way out of the United States before Jan 20th. This clearly isn't going to be swept under the carpet for nicities sake.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mediaite.com/news/watch-west-virginia-lawmaker-derrick-evans-arrested-for-storming-capitol/amp/

Derrick Evans, a Republican member of the West Virginia House of Delegates, has been arrested for entering a restricted area of the United States Capitol with the mob of violent pro-Trump rioters, the Justice Department announced Friday.

Evans had filmed himself and others going into the Capitol on Wednesday, prompting several Republicans and Democrats to call for his removal from from the legislature.

His lawyer, John Bryan, claimed Thursday night that Evans “committed no criminal act that day,” and that he has no plans to resign from office.

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They have also arrested Brett Favre who was famously sitting at Pelosis desk. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/us-capitol-riot-man-shown-nancy-pelosi-desk-arrested-richard-barnett/

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NSAman

Water John wrote: »

They really helped by not wearing masks.

Hence I say this was mostly antifa... you can tell... they had teeth!

Water John

They really helped by not wearing masks.

Detritus70

What is great about the revolution being televised, or at least streamed live online, is that lots of Muppets are being identified and fired/prosecuted.
Maybe losing their family, friends, livelihood and even freedom might persuade these less gifted in the reasoning department individuals that they are following the wrong course. And if not, at least they will go through life in pain and misery, never knowing what they did wrong.

Since most of the rioters stormed the Capitol maskless, online detectives had a unique opportunity to easily identify them. And many made it even easier — they live-streamed their participation and later bragged about their escapades.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/08/capitol-rioters-fired-doxed-online/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

paul71

paul71 wrote: »

Article of impeachment being introduced on Monday morning. Charge of inciting rebellion.

Correcting myself, the charge is "Incitement of insurrection".

Carfacemandog

The FBI just invaded Republican offices and paid a lot of home visits too! :eek:

https://amp.tennessean.com/amp/6593526002

Federal agents descended on multiple Tennessee Republican House members' homes and state offices on Friday, collecting evidence while executing search warrants.

At least 10 agents from the FBI entered the Cordell Hull legislative office building just before 8 a.m., fanning out to multiple offices carrying empty boxes with them.

The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Tennessee confirmed the FBI visited the homes of former House Speaker Glen Casada, R-Franklin; Rep. Robin Smith, R-Hixson; Rep. Todd Warner, R-Chapel Hill; and former Casada aide Cade Cothren.

There were at least six Tennessee Republican who partook in the riot/terror attack on Wednesday. Some even put it all over social media for a good big of virtue signalling, onky to quickly delete when they realised they had fcuked themselves. But given the nature of social media... too late.

[url]Http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/republican-lawmakers-rioters-capitol-photos-b1784170.html[/url]

L1011

pixelburp wrote: »

Maybe another question might be: if Trump himself is facing serious legal challenges, his children might throw him under the bus to save themselves. It doesn't exactly strike an outsider as a warm and fuzzy family that remains loyal to each other. I could see a future where Jr. shafts daddy.

With the exception of Ivanka (the Kushners are loaded), the others are financially dependent on Daddy and whatever money he can borrow that week.

Igotadose

froog wrote: »

the cult are already turning on him for saying the demonstrators will pay. the entire "movement" and i say movement as in the bowel sense, will be a fringe group in a few years.

When he needs them he'll lie them into submission and servitude once again.

froog

Detritus70 wrote: »

Now begins the long, drawn out process of slowly going after the whole toxic brood. Sue them into oblivion.
And even the average person would do well to remember who the MAGA heads were and keep that in mind when it comes to jobs, friendship, contracts and giving their businesses custom.
Hopefully at some point in the future there will just be a few old crackpots left muttering into their beer.
Being a Trump supporter should be socially unacceptable, the same drink driving.

the cult are already turning on him for saying the demonstrators will pay. the entire "movement" and i say movement as in the bowel sense, will be a fringe group in a few years.

pixelburp

froog wrote: »

so what chance has donny junior in 2024? would the cult unanimously support him?

If the base is still around and angry, maybe. You'd like to think they'll slink back to their normal lives and pretend they never got mixed up with the MAGA cult, especially after yesterday, but who knows.

Maybe another question might be: if Trump himself is facing serious legal challenges, his children might throw him under the bus to save themselves. It doesn't exactly strike an outsider as a warm and fuzzy family that remains loyal to each other. I could see a future where Jr. shafts daddy.

Detritus70

Now begins the long, drawn out process of slowly going after the whole toxic brood. Sue them into oblivion.
And even the average person would do well to remember who the MAGA heads were and keep that in mind when it comes to jobs, friendship, contracts and giving their businesses custom.
Hopefully at some point in the future there will just be a few old crackpots left muttering into their beer.
Being a Trump supporter should be socially unacceptable, the same drink driving.

froog

duploelabs wrote: »

They may, but what pac would?

good point. money would be a big issue.

duploelabs

froog wrote: »

so what chance has donny junior in 2024? would the cult unanimously support him?

They may, but what pac would?

paul71

Article of impeachment being introduced on Monday morning. Charge of inciting rebellion.

froog

so what chance has donny junior in 2024? would the cult unanimously support him?

ancapailldorcha

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Mod: Serious posts only please and kindly refrain from the insults.

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L1011

Detritus70 wrote: »

Well, what usually happens in the US when you talk trash about the product of a large cooperation:

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954836971/dominion-voting-sues-former-trump-lawyer-seeking-1-3-billion-in-damages

They are also intending to go after Newsmax and OANN for similar sums - which would take them off the air if even vaguely successful. And would be delightful.

Detritus70

Well, what usually happens in the US when you talk trash about the product of a large cooperation:

Dominion Voting Sues Former Trump Lawyer, Seeking More Than $1.3 Billion In Damages

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954836971/dominion-voting-sues-former-trump-lawyer-seeking-1-3-billion-in-damages

ancapailldorcha

Mod: Serious posts only please and kindly refrain from the insults.

Tchaikovsky

billyhead wrote: »

Trump is not mentally right in the head. He's not fit for office. I reckon he is suffering from dementia.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was neurosyphilis brought about by untreated syphilis from the 70s or 80s. Hard to know as he'd never allow himself to be treated for any mental deficiency; or if he did, he'd claim that the doctors were radical left marxist antifas.

Tchaikovsky

Water John wrote: »

Since Trump and Giuliani directly encouraged the march on Congress, are they complicit in any consequences? An officer died, which I presume is a capitol offence. They are co-conspirators in the the action that followed.

Ted Cruz should also be investigated, forced to resign at least. Al Franken resigned for a lot less.

aloyisious

Thargor wrote: »

Looks like that cop was beaten to death by a fire extinguisher in the middle of it all. I had assumed he was a heart attack or some other freak accident, this is complete madness:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-capitol-police-officer-dies-20210108-f5sy2jrnj5d7jibygzcgiamtny-story.html

I don't know if it was connected with the killing. One of the news videos, I think it was the UK news crews one in the Capitol rotunda, captured images of someone spraying the rioters with a fire extinguisher from an upper floor. A large grey spray cloud was caught on the video.