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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

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FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

So justice and law and order is secondary to keeping former comrades happy even if that means ignoring criminality?

Gerry is not a judge or the police. Adams and McGuinness had whole communities to keep on board as well as an organisation with disparate views.

I can see why he would say what he did. It's not as if it interfered in the justice process, he was careful to criticise Murphy for the crime he was convicted of.

[Deleted User]

grayzer75 wrote: »

I'd imagine because the South Armagh command struck the fear of god in the Brits and their establishment no matter what resources they threw at the area.

Careful now you are meant to say Slab is just a simple farmer who got a bit mixed up on his tax returns!

The Belfast branch too. Isn't Gerry alleged to have touted on them to pave the way for peace?

grayzer75

jh79 wrote: »

Maybe if Gerry clarified what makes Slab a "Good Republican" there wouldn't be any need to speculate.

I'd imagine because the South Armagh command struck the fear of god in the Brits and their establishment no matter what resources they threw at the area.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes. And Adams too is mindful of the peace. Obviously Murphy has influence in the area, just as a FGer will only go so far in criticising the likes of Lowry, I am sure Adams was also being diplomatic and mindful.

I have said before the road he and McGuinness trod was dangerous and brave. As a border dweller I admire what they did. I wouldn't have what I have now had they not travelled that road.

So justice and law and order is secondary to keeping former comrades happy even if that means ignoring criminality?

[Deleted User]

McMurphy wrote: »

I've already explained it to you, Gerry Adams describing someone as a good republican, does not a Sinn Fein member make.

I'm republican minded, I'm not a member of Sinn Fein either. You need to stop with the conspiracy theories j, they're not good for mindfulness.

Maybe if Gerry clarified what makes Slab a "Good Republican" there wouldn't be any need to speculate.

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How does it undermine the 'work of gardai'?

I don't know the man, I believe he was very involved in the struggle in his day.

“ Very involved in the struggle”

Lovely little euphemism, Francie, lovely.

McMurphy

jh79 wrote: »

Gerry is a TD and he praised a convicted criminal for being a "Good Republican" even though he was never in SF and nobody knows what exactly he did for "the cause".

Are SF comprised by their links to Republican criminality?

I've already explained it to you, Gerry Adams describing someone as a good republican, does not a Sinn Fein member make.

I'm republican minded, I'm not a member of Sinn Fein either. You need to stop with the conspiracy theories j, they're not good for mindfulness.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

I know but Slab and One Shot are held in high regard by SF who are likely to be in government soon. One Shot even attends SF xmas parties!

Yes. And Adams too is mindful of the peace. Obviously Murphy has influence in the area, just as a FGer will only go so far in criticising the likes of Lowry, I am sure Adams was also being diplomatic and mindful.

I have said before the road he and McGuinness trod was dangerous and brave. As a border dweller I admire what they did. I wouldn't have what I have now had they not travelled that road.

[Deleted User]

McMurphy wrote: »

Sinn Fein don't own republicanism, I thought that was a universally recognised fact.

If Gerry referred to him as a good country singer, would they own country and western music too

Gerry is a TD and he praised a convicted criminal for being a "Good Republican" even though he was never in SF and nobody knows what exactly he did for "the cause".

Are SF comprised by their links to Republican criminality?

McMurphy

jh79 wrote: »

If he wasn't a member of SF how did he come to the attention of Gerry to get that title and what exactly did he do?

Sinn Fein don't own republicanism, I thought that was a universally recognised fact.

If Gerry referred to him as a good country singer, would they own country and western music too

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It isn't just republicans. You saw that with the tragic people smuggling case.
It is criminal activity and has nothing to do with 'peace'.

I know but Slab and One Shot are held in high regard by SF who are likely to be in government soon. One Shot even attends SF xmas parties!

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

If he wasn't a member of SF how did he come to the attention of Gerry to get that title and what exactly did he do?

I'm not a spokesman for Gerry...maybe call him to the 'stand'.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

You don't think that is a political decision to maintain peace? Republicans love sterling no way they are gonna give that up.

It isn't just republicans. You saw that with the tragic people smuggling case.
It is criminal activity and has nothing to do with 'peace'.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Wasn't he criticised for that by Adams?

Didn't somebody ask was he a member of SF and he isn't?

Not sure what your point is after that.

Former member of all parties have done illegal stuff, tax evasion wouldn't be a unique crime in this country would it?

If he wasn't a member of SF how did he come to the attention of Gerry to get that title and what exactly did he do?

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

ANd turn a blind eye to what was happening along the border.

We are in a test area here (or were, may be everywhere now) and if I burned rubbish in my back garden you would be caught by satellite info and prosecuted, I know many townspeople and farmer who have been fined for it. Yet this very obvious activity by all sides of the divide has been allowed to happen for years. I have never seen or been aware of a concerted effort to stop it.

You don't think that is a political decision to maintain peace? Republicans love sterling no way they are gonna give that up.

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

You're right , not the gardai but the justice system.

So was his tax evasion "for the cause" or just to line his own pockets?

Wasn't he criticised for that by Adams?

Didn't somebody ask was he a member of SF and he isn't?

Not sure what your point is after that.

Former member of all parties have done illegal stuff, tax evasion wouldn't be a unique crime in this country would it?

FrancieBrady

grayzer75 wrote: »

Plenty of cops thought him good enough to provide him with info......

ANd turn a blind eye to what was happening along the border.

We are in a test area here (or were, may be everywhere now) and if I burned rubbish in my back garden you would be caught by satellite info and prosecuted, I know many townspeople and farmer who have been fined for it. Yet this very obvious activity by all sides of the divide has been allowed to happen for years. I have never seen or been aware of a concerted effort to stop it.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How does it undermine the 'work of gardai'?

I don't know the man, I believe he was very involved in the struggle in his day.

You're right , not the gardai but the justice system.

So was his tax evasion "for the cause" or just to line his own pockets?

grayzer75

jh79 wrote: »

Do you think Slab is a good Republican?

Plenty of cops thought him good enough to provide him with info......

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

Maybe SF shouldn't undermine the work of the Gardai by calling the likes of Slab a "Good Republican" and questioning the integrity of the justice system.

Do you think Slab is a good Republican?

How does it undermine the 'work of gardai'?

I don't know the man, I believe he was very involved in the struggle in his day.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I live here and there is more than good republicans doing that. I know it's a handy crutch for some to keep parroting it.

Maybe if the gardai, CAB and police did their jobs this would cease. I hope somebody starts to ask questions as to why this is allowed to happen.

Maybe SF shouldn't undermine the work of the Gardai by calling the likes of Slab a "Good Republican" and questioning the integrity of the justice system.

Do you think Slab is a good Republican?

FrancieBrady

jh79 wrote: »

One suggestion i have is that maybe it's time for so called "Good Republicans" to stop lining their own pockets and allow the state to collect as much excise duty as possible? We'll need every penny for a UI.

I live here and there is more than good republicans doing that. I know it's a handy crutch for some to keep parroting it.

Maybe if the gardai, CAB and police did their jobs this would cease. I hope somebody starts to ask questions as to why this is allowed to happen.

Dyr

statesaver wrote: »

Fear and division ? Hahahahahaha

https://twitter.com/WalkerMarcus/status/1346947578043240448

O'Neill is some dope but thats what you get when leadership figures are nothing more than puppets

Brendan Bendar

jh79 wrote: »

One suggestion i have is that maybe it's time for so called "Good Republicans" to stop lining their own pockets and allow the state to collect as much excise duty as possible? We'll need every penny for a UI.

Jay, a chara, the last thing the ‘Good Republicans’ want to see going is the ‘Boaadher’ .

Isn’t it only the best money spinner going.... them huge houses didn’t build themselves y’know hi.

Now take that tongue back out of your cheek....:cool:

[Deleted User]

One suggestion i have is that maybe it's time for so called "Good Republicans" to stop lining their own pockets and allow the state to collect as much excise duty as possible? We'll need every penny for a UI.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fixed that for you:
You are still running away from I am not interested in the debate on the costs of unification with you or any other partitionists.

Not feeling too confident with the "it's not a tax it's a unification contribution" approach?

FrancieBrady

statesaver wrote: »

Fear and division ? Hahahahahaha

Best one I seen was...'The US are organising coups at home due to travel restrictions'.

statesaver

Fear and division ? Hahahahahaha

https://twitter.com/WalkerMarcus/status/1346947578043240448

FrancieBrady

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Haven’t peaked in at the thread in 5 months. Good to see you are still only interested in debating the easy, populist stuff.
Alarmed that you are still spending so much time on one thread of an Internet forum.

New Year, new you.

5 months and you pop in to have a personal pop at one poster. Good stuff.

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fixed that for you:
You are still running away from I am not interested in the debate on the costs of unification with you or any other partitionists.

Haven’t peaked in at the thread in 5 months. Good to see you are still only interested in debating the easy, populist stuff.
Alarmed that you are still spending so much time on one thread of an Internet forum.

New Year, new you.