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Coronavirus (COVID-19)

JP Liz V1

It has hit the rebel city, CUH on lockdown with restrictions (talk the carrier is a med student who was not abroad), wash hands and take care

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fin12

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

That is true, I am sick of shopping aisle chats, removing masks to chat and have coffee, ffs you are in to shop and then get out fast asap

What’s wrong with getting a takeaway coffee , it’s all outside now. People are still allowed meet up with their other social bubble.

corks finest

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Not just kids and teenagers though. There's fully grown adults who's also going out and mixing.

Very true but at least the core of adults I've seen do social distance and mask up

JP Liz V1

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Not just kids and teenagers though. There's fully grown adults who's also going out and mixing.

That is true, I am sick of shopping aisle chats, removing masks to chat and have coffee, ffs you are in to shop and then get out fast asap

Away With The Fairies

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes I've seen it myself, the parents just don't care

We are suppose to stay at home and mix with our own family bubble only yet kids and teenagers are out mixing together now more as schools closed

Not just kids and teenagers though. There's fully grown adults who's also going out and mixing.

JP Liz V1

corks finest wrote: »

Sorry to keep harping on about this but unless parental control kicks in what I see in Carrigaline regularly is gangs or groups of teens, non masked no social distancing, and if this behaviour is typical nationwide we're in trouble

Yes I've seen it myself, the parents just don't care

We are suppose to stay at home and mix with our own family bubble only yet kids and teenagers are out mixing together now more as schools closed

Chuck Noland

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0107/1188291-israel-vaccine/

Israel preparing for the vaccine since June..paying nearly twice the odds per dose and they are flying it with their roll out

ACitizenErased

There was 124 positive tests in hospitals yesterday, including 9 in the CUH. Drogheda had 18, Vincents had 15 and Beaumont had 12.

I think I know where the crisis is....

JP Liz V1

From Richard Chambers

HSE CEO describes the current situation an "extraordinary crisis."

1,022 patients in hospital - 20 free beds left in public ICUs.

ACitizenErased

Augeo wrote: »

Just to close this off, this is from the EMA site.......

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/update-rolling-review-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine

"So far, some evidence has been assessed on safety and efficacy coming from a pooled analysis of interim clinical data from four ongoing clinical trials in the UK, Brazil and South Africa. The latest clinical package was received on 21 December and is currently being assessed. CHMP has already assessed data from laboratory studies (non-clinical data) and is currently assessing data on the vaccine’s quality (on its ingredients and the way it is manufactured).

Additional scientific information on issues related to quality, safety and efficacy of the vaccine is deemed necessary to support the rigour required for a conditional marketing authorisation and this has been requested from the company.

Further information from the ongoing clinical trials is also expected from January. Interim data from a large trial ongoing in the USA are expected in Q1 2021."

Okay?

[Deleted User]

Augeo wrote: »

Safety and efficacy both mentioned in the sources I linked to, not just quality.

Manufacturing data that details what it's made of is great but safety and efficacy data requirements might not be satisfied by that alone.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Phase trials are for safety and efficacy, that's exactly what they are for. EMA has already received the phase data. They're looking for quality data IE the manufacturing data.

I'm not gonna keep bickering because it's quite clear no matter what fact I say you'll say the opposite.

Just to close this off, this is from the EMA site.......

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/update-rolling-review-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine

"So far, some evidence has been assessed on safety and efficacy coming from a pooled analysis of interim clinical data from four ongoing clinical trials in the UK, Brazil and South Africa. The latest clinical package was received on 21 December and is currently being assessed. CHMP has already assessed data from laboratory studies (non-clinical data) and is currently assessing data on the vaccine’s quality (on its ingredients and the way it is manufactured).

Additional scientific information on issues related to quality, safety and efficacy of the vaccine is deemed necessary to support the rigour required for a conditional marketing authorisation and this has been requested from the company.

Further information from the ongoing clinical trials is also expected from January. Interim data from a large trial ongoing in the USA are expected in Q1 2021."

ACitizenErased

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Really? Great stuff. You seem the most balanced and knowledgeable poster on this thread so that fantastic to hear. At that point if those numbers are completed can you see society going back to how things were in July in years pre Covid?

The head of the vaccine task force said anyone who wants a vaccine will have one by August. Unless something extremely dramatic happens, which is highly unlikely, summer is on the cards.

corks finest

Widdensushi wrote: »

Hopefully they are immune by now

Heard immunity doesen't work the n of Ireland is blitzed atm simply because they didn't mask up, social distance and generally left to their own devices courtesy of that clown Boris and his advice

corks finest

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah would you stop, there are gangs of young kids with parents packed into playgrounds, chatting away in groups without even a mask on , there were plenty families got together over Christmas particularly for dinner on Christmas day , numerous families in the one house, the same ones who constantly go on about gangs of teens together. It has shocked me the people who went to different households but seemed to think that was ok and yet they are so concerned about everyone else's actions , lots of " do as I say not as I do ' brigade around, one rule for them and another rule for everyone else .

Agree, but can honestly say all my family in Cork are adhering to the covid rules, no one visited over Christmas etc, it's a balls but necessary, I shop early and safe

[Deleted User]

corks finest wrote: »

Sorry to keep harping on about this but unless parental control kicks in what I see in Carrigaline regularly is gangs or groups of teens, non masked no social distancing, and if this behaviour is typical nationwide we're in trouble

Ah would you stop, there are gangs of young kids with parents packed into playgrounds, chatting away in groups without even a mask on , there were plenty families got together over Christmas particularly for dinner on Christmas day , numerous families in the one house, the same ones who constantly go on about gangs of teens together. It has shocked me the people who went to different households but seemed to think that was ok and yet they are so concerned about everyone else's actions , lots of " do as I say not as I do ' brigade around, one rule for them and another rule for everyone else .

Widdensushi

corks finest wrote: »

Sorry to keep harping on about this but unless parental control kicks in what I see in Carrigaline regularly is gangs or groups of teens, non masked no social distancing, and if this behaviour is typical nationwide we're in trouble

Hopefully they are immune by now

the beer revolu

corks finest wrote: »

Sorry to keep harping on about this but unless parental control kicks in what I see in Carrigaline regularly is gangs or groups of teens, non masked no social distancing, and if this behaviour is typical nationwide we're in trouble

How did the numbers get so low in December?
You've been banging on about teens in carragaline since March.
If they are such an issue, how did the numbers ever decrease?

corks finest

the beer revolu wrote: »

Was just looking back over this thread.
We had 7 cases on 15th December!!!

I know that I predicted that this massive surge would come but still I'm amazed that we can go from so low to so high so quickly.

There was a lot of naive optimism back then.

Sorry to keep harping on about this but unless parental control kicks in what I see in Carrigaline regularly is gangs or groups of teens, non masked no social distancing, and if this behaviour is typical nationwide we're in trouble

Chuck Noland

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That’s not gonna happen. I would predict we’ll have 2 million done by middle of Summer.

Really? Great stuff. You seem the most balanced and knowledgeable poster on this thread so that fantastic to hear. At that point if those numbers are completed can you see society going back to how things were in July in years pre Covid?

ACitizenErased

Zardoz wrote: »

235k vaccinated in 3 months is pretty pathetic.
Govt and HSE covering themselves in glory yet again.

That’s not gonna happen. I would predict we’ll have 2 million done by middle of Summer.

ACitizenErased

the beer revolu wrote: »

ACE, I'm not having a go, this is a genuine question as people here value your input.

Do you still think what I quoted above is possibe?
I hope so.

1000000%.

Chuck Noland

Zardoz wrote: »

235k vaccinated in 3 months is pretty pathetic.
Govt and HSE covering themselves in glory yet again.

It will take around 4 months. They only hope to have that amount of vaccine by the end of March

[Deleted User]

Chuck Noland wrote: »

So best case scenario by the end of March the government hope to have 470,000 doses of the vaccine. So 235,000 people vaccinated from that..............

Zardoz wrote: »

235k vaccinated in 3 months is pretty pathetic.
Govt and HSE covering themselves in glory yet again.

They can only be judged on how quickly they get the received vaccination doses administered. They can't magic up additional supply.

TheChizler

Zardoz wrote: »

235k vaccinated in 3 months is pretty pathetic.
Govt and HSE covering themselves in glory yet again.

How many complete doses will be available in that time?

Zardoz

Chuck Noland wrote: »

So best case scenario by the end of March the government hope to have 470,000 doses of the vaccine. So 235,000 people vaccinated from that. Say it takes until April too administer it. That means after 4 months a very very small portion of the population will have received it. It really doesn’t give much hope to having a normal summer

235k vaccinated in 3 months is pretty pathetic.
Govt and HSE covering themselves in glory yet again.

the beer revolu

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Majority of at risk people will be vaccinated by February/March, latest. We'll be well on our way back to normal at that point.

ACE, I'm not having a go, this is a genuine question as people here value your input.

Do you still think what I quoted above is possibe?
I hope so.

the beer revolu

Was just looking back over this thread.
We had 7 cases on 15th December!!!

I know that I predicted that this massive surge would come but still I'm amazed that we can go from so low to so high so quickly.

There was a lot of naive optimism back then.

H8GHOTI

Chuck Noland wrote: »

So best case scenario by the end of March the government hope to have 470,000 doses of the vaccine. So 235,000 people vaccinated from that. Say it takes until April too administer it. That means after 4 months a very very small portion of the population will have received it. It really doesn’t give much hope to having a normal summer

That’s just one vaccine ya? So as others are approved those numbers will increase. Still, it does look like it will take a while to vaccinate everyone.

At least those 235k are the most important people, the most at risk & most vulnerable. With nursing homes done & healthcare workers done, we should have less deaths & less cases. We may be able to open up a bit more. Nobody knows for sure. Let’s see. Fingers crossed.

corks finest

Chuck Noland wrote: »

So best case scenario by the end of March the government hope to have 470,000 doses of the vaccine. So 235,000 people vaccinated from that. Say it takes until April too administer it. That means after 4 months a very very small portion of the population will have received it. It really doesn’t give much hope to having a normal summer

That about sums it up

Chuck Noland

So best case scenario by the end of March the government hope to have 470,000 doses of the vaccine. So 235,000 people vaccinated from that. Say it takes until April too administer it. That means after 4 months a very very small portion of the population will have received it. It really doesn’t give much hope to having a normal summer

Be right back

corks finest wrote: »

Next week or 2 will tell us the true story of where we really are, if we're not in lock down still by paddies day I'll grow wings

It really will.