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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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martingriff

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

American politics went into the sewer 5 years ago and it's going to take a long, long time for the stench and sickness that has resulted to be cleaned up, if it ever can be.

Remember when we all taught Bush was the most polarized

martingriff

dogbert27 wrote: »

So once things are back up and running and Biden gets certified, is that it?

Has Trump then officially run out of all his Hail Mary's?

A coup:pac:

and yes I am joking

Mr.Nice Guy

American politics went into the sewer 5 years ago and it's going to take a long, long time for the stench and sickness that has resulted to be cleaned up, if it ever can be.

dogbert27

So once things are back up and running and Biden gets certified, is that it?

Has Trump then officially run out of all his Hail Mary's?

Rjd2

pixelburp wrote: »

To the business that was meant to take place: the REALLY interesting thing is which GOP politicians will continue to dissemble and pander towards the Trump base in light of these terrorist attacks? It'll take some craven spine for (say) Cruz to continue to question the election. You'd like to think there'll be a period of reflection from these GOP members about the cost of towing a conspiracy ... ... but the this IS the Republican party we're talking about here. In giving them more credit than they deserve. But you'd hope the confirmation would continue now without any more parlour games. You'd hope.

Impossible to know.

Trump today has gone off on Pence, Mitch, his 3 Supreme court picks, and previously Sessions, Mattis, Cotton Barr, Bannon etc.

These are all people who thought they could contain Trump without much blowback but ultimately he has scorched them as their will always be a loyalty test they can't pass.

Long term attaching yourself to Trump is a poor play, if a power hungry sociopath like Tom Cotton can figure that out then the likes of Hawley, Cruz etc surely can also.

L1011

josip wrote: »

What a pathetic country the US has become.
They can't even secure the Capitol from a 2 bit mob.

Rather looks like "didn't" rather than "can't even", though.

josip

What a pathetic country the US has become.
They can't even secure the Capitol from a 2 bit mob.

Spanish Eyes

I think this was planned, and the doors were opened to let them in.

Let them have their day, blow off steam, but if it happens again its lights out.

Sad day all round from a bunch of hillbillies, and their soon to be gone President.

I always said to myself that the last days of the regime are the most dangerous..

What an image to be sending around the world.

MJohnston

Cops taking selfies with the seditionists:
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520?s=21

I’ve seen *so many* people, even here on boards.ie, stating that BLM is unfounded or unnecessary, but today should stand as undeniable proof that the police in America are unrecoverably corrupt and racist.

I’m not at all surprised that Trump supporters would try this, but it is utterly shocking how easy it was for them.

gimli2112

Trump can't help himself. Tells them to go home amid a rant about some fradulent election.
CNN presenters are going to have a mass stroke

L1011

extra gravy wrote: »

You mean they were going to have a shower and put on clean clothes?

And not carry ego-extensions in the form of firearms either. Can't see them ever doing that.

Nody

pixelburp wrote: »

To the business that was meant to take place: the REALLY interesting thing is which GOP politicians will continue to dissemble and pander towards the Trump base in light of these terrorist attacks? It'll take some craven spine for (say) Cruz to continue to question the election. You'd like to think there'll be a period of reflection from these GOP members about the cost of towing a conspiracy ... ... but the this IS the Republican party we're talking about here. In giving them more credit than they deserve. But you'd hope the confirmation would continue now without any more parlour games. You'd hope.

It will be used by the same once as before; "While I don't condone what was done at Capital Hill the people do raise an important question" etc.

extra gravy

dogbert27 wrote: »

I read a few days ago that Proud Boys were planning to arrive dressed as BLM protesters to add to the confusion

You mean they were going to have a shower and put on clean clothes?

pixelburp

To the business that was meant to take place: the REALLY interesting thing is which GOP politicians will continue to dissemble and pander towards the Trump base in light of these terrorist attacks? It'll take some craven spine for (say) Cruz to continue to question the election. You'd like to think there'll be a period of reflection from these GOP members about the cost of towing a conspiracy ... ... but the this IS the Republican party we're talking about here. In giving them more credit than they deserve. But you'd hope the confirmation would continue now without any more parlour games. You'd hope.

paul71

briany wrote: »

There's little doubt in my mind that Trumpism is generally a pro-white, "Great Replacement", nativist movement, but of course groups like the Proud Boys know to sidestep that accusation by installing a black man as their leader.

Interesting, the leader of the brownshirts was homosexual, until he was killed.

Nody

Here's a lovely tweet from Ivanka that sums up Trump's family stance so well:

briany

paul71 wrote: »

What percentage of the population of the US is black? I am watching crowds of a few thousand storming a democratic institution and there is not a single black face. This is clearly a neo-nazi movement.

There's little doubt in my mind that Trumpism is generally a pro-white, "Great Replacement", nativist movement, but of course groups like the Proud Boys know to sidestep that accusation by installing a black man as their leader.

L1011

paul71 wrote: »

What percentage of the population of the US is black? I am watching crowds of a few thousand storming a democratic institution and there is not a single black face. This is clearly a neo-nazi movement.

~13%.

~60% are "non hispanic white", they don't give quite the same breakdown as our census does.

There were a few visible earlier; its not entirely white.

paul71

What percentage of the population of the US is black? I am watching crowds of a few thousand storming a democratic institution and there is not a single black face. This is clearly a neo-nazi movement.

briany

Regarding the person shot, play stupid games win stupid prizes. About time authorities stood up to these Trumpist d*ckheads, not that they're even doing enough as it is, but at least it's something.

Nody

The riot police has arrived a couple of hours late and started clearing the building. Of course unlike a BLM protest there are only a couple of them and no use of violence when a federal building is invaded and damaged.

froog

why aren't police and the army kicking the absolute sh1t out of these d1ckheads??

the capitol building ffs!!!

froog

i mean guns drawn in the capitol building?? absolute bat**** crazy.

trump needs to be removed from office tonight and arrested for treason and sedition.

dzsfah2xoynme9

Ya know, Ireland isn't such a bad place after all..

dogbert27

Nody wrote: »

The live stream said they had three different witness saying someone had died. They currently had one of the witnesses talking what happened with blood on his hand. He stormed into Capital Hill into the chamber with the rest to protest the vote. A young woman stormed in first and refused to listen to police or secret service telling her to stop and got shot. And he's blaming it on the politicians of course that she got killed.

Someone should come out and state that Trump has that woman's blood on his hands

froog

holy

fcuking

****balls

Nody

listermint wrote: »

Three different persons where.?

The live stream said they had three different witness saying someone had died. They currently had one of the witnesses talking what happened with blood on his hand. He stormed into Capital Hill into the chamber with the rest to protest the vote. A young woman stormed in first and refused to listen to police or secret service telling her to stop and got shot. And he's blaming it on the politicians of course that she got killed.

Tpcl20

CNN saying the National Guard was activated yesterday after Pelosi asked for them to come and help. How has it been left go this far?!

RurtBeynolds

Nody wrote: »

First death in Capitol Hill reported on live stream by so far three different persons.

And guess what; what a surprise:
https://twitter.com/byaaroncdavis/status/1346908166030766080

What about the police?? Where are they?

How long would it take to supply the national guard?

pixelburp

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

Bonkers

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1346904724600188929

Nate

Every civic rights and minority advocacy group in America must be grinding their teeth so much right now.

This was always where the MAGA crowd were headed. It was always thus. Weekend warriors in their store bought military gear, and of course some would take it upon themselves to be heroes of their own personal Olympus Has Fallen. The entirety of American culture and latter-day politics has engendered a sense that only the armed white man can Get Things Done. Here's the crop being reaped and if it isn't nipped in the bud now for the wannabe Kristellnacht that it is, it will only get worse.