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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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paul71

What percentage of the population of the US is black? I am watching crowds of a few thousand storming a democratic institution and there is not a single black face. This is clearly a neo-nazi movement.

L1011

paul71 wrote: »

What percentage of the population of the US is black? I am watching crowds of a few thousand storming a democratic institution and there is not a single black face. This is clearly a neo-nazi movement.

~13%.

~60% are "non hispanic white", they don't give quite the same breakdown as our census does.

There were a few visible earlier; its not entirely white.

briany

paul71 wrote: »

What percentage of the population of the US is black? I am watching crowds of a few thousand storming a democratic institution and there is not a single black face. This is clearly a neo-nazi movement.

There's little doubt in my mind that Trumpism is generally a pro-white, "Great Replacement", nativist movement, but of course groups like the Proud Boys know to sidestep that accusation by installing a black man as their leader.

Nody

Here's a lovely tweet from Ivanka that sums up Trump's family stance so well:

paul71

briany wrote: »

There's little doubt in my mind that Trumpism is generally a pro-white, "Great Replacement", nativist movement, but of course groups like the Proud Boys know to sidestep that accusation by installing a black man as their leader.

Interesting, the leader of the brownshirts was homosexual, until he was killed.

pixelburp

To the business that was meant to take place: the REALLY interesting thing is which GOP politicians will continue to dissemble and pander towards the Trump base in light of these terrorist attacks? It'll take some craven spine for (say) Cruz to continue to question the election. You'd like to think there'll be a period of reflection from these GOP members about the cost of towing a conspiracy ... ... but the this IS the Republican party we're talking about here. In giving them more credit than they deserve. But you'd hope the confirmation would continue now without any more parlour games. You'd hope.

extra gravy

dogbert27 wrote: »

I read a few days ago that Proud Boys were planning to arrive dressed as BLM protesters to add to the confusion

You mean they were going to have a shower and put on clean clothes?

Nody

pixelburp wrote: »

To the business that was meant to take place: the REALLY interesting thing is which GOP politicians will continue to dissemble and pander towards the Trump base in light of these terrorist attacks? It'll take some craven spine for (say) Cruz to continue to question the election. You'd like to think there'll be a period of reflection from these GOP members about the cost of towing a conspiracy ... ... but the this IS the Republican party we're talking about here. In giving them more credit than they deserve. But you'd hope the confirmation would continue now without any more parlour games. You'd hope.

It will be used by the same once as before; "While I don't condone what was done at Capital Hill the people do raise an important question" etc.

L1011

extra gravy wrote: »

You mean they were going to have a shower and put on clean clothes?

And not carry ego-extensions in the form of firearms either. Can't see them ever doing that.

gimli2112

Trump can't help himself. Tells them to go home amid a rant about some fradulent election.
CNN presenters are going to have a mass stroke

MJohnston

Cops taking selfies with the seditionists:
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520?s=21

I’ve seen *so many* people, even here on boards.ie, stating that BLM is unfounded or unnecessary, but today should stand as undeniable proof that the police in America are unrecoverably corrupt and racist.

I’m not at all surprised that Trump supporters would try this, but it is utterly shocking how easy it was for them.

Spanish Eyes

I think this was planned, and the doors were opened to let them in.

Let them have their day, blow off steam, but if it happens again its lights out.

Sad day all round from a bunch of hillbillies, and their soon to be gone President.

I always said to myself that the last days of the regime are the most dangerous..

What an image to be sending around the world.

josip

What a pathetic country the US has become.
They can't even secure the Capitol from a 2 bit mob.

L1011

josip wrote: »

What a pathetic country the US has become.
They can't even secure the Capitol from a 2 bit mob.

Rather looks like "didn't" rather than "can't even", though.

Rjd2

pixelburp wrote: »

To the business that was meant to take place: the REALLY interesting thing is which GOP politicians will continue to dissemble and pander towards the Trump base in light of these terrorist attacks? It'll take some craven spine for (say) Cruz to continue to question the election. You'd like to think there'll be a period of reflection from these GOP members about the cost of towing a conspiracy ... ... but the this IS the Republican party we're talking about here. In giving them more credit than they deserve. But you'd hope the confirmation would continue now without any more parlour games. You'd hope.

Impossible to know.

Trump today has gone off on Pence, Mitch, his 3 Supreme court picks, and previously Sessions, Mattis, Cotton Barr, Bannon etc.

These are all people who thought they could contain Trump without much blowback but ultimately he has scorched them as their will always be a loyalty test they can't pass.

Long term attaching yourself to Trump is a poor play, if a power hungry sociopath like Tom Cotton can figure that out then the likes of Hawley, Cruz etc surely can also.

dogbert27

So once things are back up and running and Biden gets certified, is that it?

Has Trump then officially run out of all his Hail Mary's?

Mr.Nice Guy

American politics went into the sewer 5 years ago and it's going to take a long, long time for the stench and sickness that has resulted to be cleaned up, if it ever can be.

martingriff

dogbert27 wrote: »

So once things are back up and running and Biden gets certified, is that it?

Has Trump then officially run out of all his Hail Mary's?

A coup:pac:

and yes I am joking

martingriff

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

American politics went into the sewer 5 years ago and it's going to take a long, long time for the stench and sickness that has resulted to be cleaned up, if it ever can be.

Remember when we all taught Bush was the most polarized

dogbert27

martingriff wrote: »

Remember when we all taught Bush was the most polarized

Yeah I was thinking when did the Republicans go full batsxxt and I was thinking the arrival of Palin on the scene with her "I can see Russia from where I live so I am qualified for Foreign Policy" nonsense and after years of her came the Tea Party movement which sowed the seeds for Trump and his supporters as when the tea party broke down these people needed something to grab on to and along came Trump as their saviour, who wasn't just another career politician, promising to get things done as he lived in the real world like them

Water John

It goes back to the Newt Gingrich era and the impeachment of Clinton on spurious grounds.

Gael23

Treason charge for Trump?

Water John

House reconvening at 8 pm ET.

froog

Water John wrote: »

It goes back to the Newt Gingrich era and the impeachment of Clinton on spurious grounds.

yep. it all started with Newt. he has a LOT to answer for.

Headshot

Putin must be sitting back and laughing his hole off

theguzman

Headshot wrote: »

Putin Xi Jinping must be sitting back and laughing his hole off

FYP

Timberrrrrrrr

Headshot wrote: »

Kim must be sitting back and laughing his hole off

theguzman wrote: »

FYP

FY FYP :pac:

L1011

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

FY FYP :pac:

Its all three, and Erdogan.

rosser44

Headshot wrote: »

Putin must be sitting back and laughing his hole off

It will make fascinating reading in years to come. Best intelligence op ever

jam_mac_jam

Headshot wrote: »

Putin must be sitting back and laughing his hole off

And China. Would be fairly sure a few central American countries are enjoying it too. Can imagine Mexico laughing as well.

What an absolute **** show. How could they get in. If it was al Qaeda would they be there for a couple of hours.

What a complete embarrassment for such a strong country.