ariana` wrote: » Yeah interesting. I see 10k as being a bit like 5k, uncomfortable pace from the start. But i've yet to run a 10k race that i'm happy with so maybe i'm doing it wrong. 10m is more like HM, in that the pace is quite comfortable in the early miles and it's the distance that makes it start to hurt. But i haven't done one of these in almost 2 years so maybe i'm doing these wrong too :pac: The difference for me between 10m and HM is two-fold, 1 fuelling isn't an issue on 10m whereas HM (at my pace) probably need to factor it in. And secondly those last 3 miles! Not much I know but the longer training runs bring me into a zone where I take a bit longer to recover and have a bit less enjoyment! I love long runs up to 12 miles and don't mind the occasional 14m thrown in to the peak weeks, perfect for 10m. Once I'm up around 14+ mile week in week out I need significantly more recovery and sleep etc.
ReeReeG wrote: » Haven't watched that lad before.. does he not feel like a bit of a tool getting his mate to film him running in busy London :pac: But yes, he is not wrong about process
The Black Oil wrote: » 'Process, not outcome' is how Ben Parkes put it in one of his recent videos. Mind you, he's aiming for 4,000 miles this year. But yeah, he's right and you'd understand this mindset too, both theory and practice.
ReeReeG wrote: » No worries - it's a good question! I'd put a 10 mile as much the same thing as a HM in my head interestingly...
Swashbuckler wrote: » Yep definitely. I wouldn't really differentiate much between 10k and 10M training to be honest. As you move up in distance the emphasis shifts more towards the longer, harder sessions (high end aerobic and threshold but high volume). Some of those sessions you'd see healy and AMK running for Marathon training are frightening. I don't think the gap from 10k to HM is as big as you think. Just a slight shift in emphasis. Same working down from 10k to 5k. That's why I see it as a nice midpoint. Well trained 10k runners have a really good base for HM and M training. 10M training and 10k training are very similar (in my opinion). Maybe your just getting a slightly better base off the 10M if plan is to move up in distance after.
ReeReeG wrote: » And now, 2021. I would like someone to just tell me what to do :rolleyes: I don't really know what to focus on. I had signed up for Connemara half but as the days go by, it hardly seems likely to go ahead. So I dunno. If anyone would like to give me suggestions, I'd like that a lot !!!
ariana` wrote: » Would you not say this about 10 mile? It seems a million miles from 10k to Marathon or even HM, even in how you approach a 10k race, strategy etc. whereas 10 mile training gives a strong foundation to go up or down from and still without draining the body and mind as a HM or M would (I still can't believe how many people ran marathon TTs last year and did so well in them too, it's mind blowing!). Sorry for the hijack V
Swashbuckler wrote: » Poop...... Now that I've dragged down the tone as promised...... It's a tricky time with no races and given I'm only catching up on your log I'm not sure how you feel about TT's. If you're a fan then a proper race specific block wouldn't do any harm. As you may/may not know I spent most of 2020 base building. That's not to say I didn't have big chunky sessions. I did but there was very little race specific stuff that you'd normally see in a 'plan from a book'. I came on massively. That being said it was a coached base building block and for sure I wouldn't have been able to pluck that plan from a book or online. Base building as I've seen in books/online is very different to what I experienced last year. I almost wouldn't have known I was base building other than I was told! Lol. What am I trying to say. I think there's huge benefit in base building in the absense of any meaningful races but you'll benefit less from just plucking another base plan from Daniels and just rerunning it. It depends what motivated you? Is it the training or is it the target? If you're OK with TT and you're motivated by an end goal then I'd always lean towards 10k (personal preference). HM and M training is a little more draining on the body especially in lockdown and might be hard to keep motivated knowing you only have a TT at the end. 10k has nice sharp sessions to keep things interesting and provides a good base to move down or up in distance after. It's a nice midpoint. But I'm biased as we all know at this stage. Poop........ Awful low tone in this log......
ReeReeG wrote: » I did the Grads half plan this time last year actually, it is great alright and did me well. I definitely feel like there is much unfinished business with the 10k. The problem is every distance looks tempting right now (which is probably a good sign in terms of motivation), it's just so hard to choose with no definite targets. What are YOU going to do for the late winter / spring?? :pac:
ReeReeG wrote: » I did the Grads half plan this time last year actually, it is great alright and did me well. I definitely feel like there is much unfinished business with the 10k. The problem is every distance looks tempting right now (which is probably a good sign in terms of motivation), it's just so hard to choose with no definite targets.What are YOU going to do for the late winter / spring?? :pac:
ariana` wrote: » It's tough going without races. Hard to see Conn going ahead, it's too early in the year. You could target a fast HM in Charleville in Sept In the meantime maybe a base plan or the Grads 10k-HM plan. That's a nice plan with lots of variety. Or how do you feel about the 10k now, unfinished business perhaps? You could set a date 10-12 weeks out from now for a TT. Restrictions permitting maybe you could drum up interest from a few other runners from here to do it with you.
Annie get your Run wrote: » I'd see no harm in doing a half marathon plan regardless of whether conn goes ahead or not, it'll be decent mileage and probably have lots of tempo, longer intervals? Or find a good base building plan and focus on improving aerobic fitness. Unfortunately I don't see any races happening this side of September but I could be wrong!
crisco10 wrote: You do know that the turbines have nothing to do with creating the wind right? in fact, technically they slow the wind down.
ReeReeG wrote: » Mon 28th They've 'done up' i.e. tarmacadamed some of the canal walkway near Daingean in Offaly so I met a couple of friends to walk a bit of it. Nice spot, will have to head back for a run there I think. Went into the wind farm for a run on my way home, decided to venture off the parkrun route after looking at a sign showing the different routes. What the sign failed to show were the other roads I might come across... I spent at least 20 mins not really sure where the hell I was and not a sign of a single other person out there! My planned 5 miles turned into 8 (8.38/m) and I got a lovely head cold from being blown out of it under the turbines. Ah no harm done really.
Murph_D wrote: Log of the Year!
shotgunmcos wrote: » Simple lunges or jumping lunges and reverse lunges along with squats and jump squats will bring the quads along. 26 v 22 good numbers for pistol squats but that'll even up with consistency. The weaker one has to work harder.
ReeReeG wrote: » Mon 14th Dec After all the talk of easy running, I headed up the hills Monday night ah no point in wasting the rare enough opportunities of having company to do something like this. I felt very out of practice for it, but enjoyed it all the same. It was a clear night so we had lovely views of Dublin. We even saw some deer sitting amongst the trees; their eyes reflected off our head lamps. Creepy but cool! 7 miles, very mixed pace! Tues 15th 40 mins S&C. Easy 5 evening miles, 9.03/m. Legs felt surprisingly ok after the hills. Weds 16th Easy again, 4 miles @ 9.20/m. 66 days in a row. Thurs 17th End of the streak! The place I go to for physio and have been doing S&C with this past 13 months or so offered a fitness / strength test. It's not anything overly scientific or running related, but I was curious and no harm to set a few goals elsewhere. Did it Thursday evening after work. I'd kept a food diary for the week leading up - as suspected, my snacking is brutal! Although I also realised I don't eat enough food / meals on the weekend. Anyway, chat about food and goals and some measurements taken (which I won't be sharing here!) As my left leg is weaker, I did single leg squats to max on each leg: 26 vs 22 so not as big a gap as I suspected. Then push ups to max : 25 , surprised myself! TRX eh pullups ? Managed 15 and to be honest the 15th was questionable 500m on the ski erg at 50% resistance: 2 mins 27 secs. I paced myself so badly, that's something I'll change in Feb! Anyway, main goal is to get the left leg as strong as the right. Not as bothered about heavier weights on some exercises, happy enough with the gradual progress as I have been doing. Fri 18th S&C , 45 mins. No ill effects from the evening before. Conditioning was a killer on the quads though. Easy lunchtime run, 4.6 miles @ 9.08/m. Sat 19th A run around Marlay before packing up for Christmas and heading to Offaly. 5.2 miles @ 9.06/m. My legs felt quite heavy and stiff for most of this run, but nothing to worry about really. Sun 20th An early run around Edenderry. Nice Christmas tree in the square and lights along the main street, but hardly anyone else out apart from the cycling club. 8.1 miles @ 9.08/m. One weird thing, my little toe on my right foot got strangely sore in the last mile, like it was crunching?? Was fine since, but will watch it on the next one. 34 miles for the week.
ReeReeG wrote: » And you've even gotten the hashtags down
Murph_D wrote: I'm a very latecomer to this 'lockdown Taylor' persona myself but I'm already a little bit obsessed. #taylorswiftpartyisnotover
