kilns wrote: » Oh are you such a sensitive soul to call being called a chancer with a smiley face abusive, poor baby Again had Longford caught up with Dublin? The answer is no and never will, stop embarrassing yourself
Enquiring wrote: » Well at least you're posting in a reasonable manner and not resorting to abusive private messages! Dublin were at home the year before, maybe that's where the push for all Dublin championship games to be played in Croke park came from? They saw the difference it could make. If thats the only thing that you can pick out from my extensive research, it tells me you're struggling pretty bad.
kilns wrote: » Again you make your sweeping statements without any backup, you stated up to funding Longford were competitive with Dublin based on one game. How much did Dublin beat Longford by the previous year, I will save you the search it was 19 months. Now do you think Dublins average winning margin against Longford up to 2006 was more reflective of 2006 or 2005, I know you won't answer. But it you want to make sweeping statements, try and do a bit of research or else you end up looking silly.....
Enquiring wrote: » Dublin lost to Laois, save and nearly lost to Longford, all in a couple of years in the mid noughties. That's where Dublin were. They had some talented youngsters coming through though. Coinciding with the huge number of professional coaches strangely.
Enquiring wrote: » Instead of comparing Cork and Longford, how about we compare Cork and Dublin. As you pointed out, Cork have a large number of clubs. They have a population of over 500,000. Large number of teams and players also. Can you explain why Cork received 12.5 times less than Dublin in Games development funding this century?
Strumms wrote: » Unfortunately Dublin with a great number of people playing, ages, games, genders... were in need of what they received.... If the government were to give education grants by county... who gets the most ? Yep....Dublin. Why ? More schools, more students participating, same with the GAA, Dubs have more teams, more clubs, more players. The argument people make is as if Longford should get the same as Cork... they shouldn’t, simply...
ArielAtom wrote: » Glad we have cleared that up. Corks sponsorship is for Football and Hurling, it does not take into Ladies football or Camogie. Ah the halycon days when meath hammered Dublin, I don't miss them days at all. I had to listen to my relations far to much crowing on about how much better meath were.
Rosita wrote: » The province of Leinster was shocking. More like Dublin regressed. Happily at least one of the Leinster counties addressed their underperformance.
Enquiring wrote: » I said they caught up with Dublin and it's clear that they did. The province of Leinster may not have been the strongest but that included Dublin. Only Dublin were given access to millions of euros though. Changing the course of history.
RoyalCelt wrote: » Everyone receives sponsorship. The point is Dublin get a hell of a lot more. It's another natural advantage enjoyed by the capital. No matter how much others get their house in order they'll never be able to match dublin here so should receive more funding to help level the playing field. Unfortunately the gaa will always give dublin the most, the population gap will grow forever and the dominance will get larger to the point of no return. Such a prestigious competition that grew in popularity for over 100 years is now in terminal decline. I'm just glad I witnessed the halcyon days. It was good while it lasted. On the bright side my savings account will benefit greatly. No more expensive match days for the family or neutral fixtures to attend for myself.
Rosita wrote: » Meath, Kildare, Laois, Westmeath and Longford caught up so much that Leinster huffed and puffed to just two All Ireland titles between 1995 and 2011?
ArielAtom wrote: » Dob, I was merely pointing out that Tis not only Dublin in receipt of sponsorship. HNY to you and yours.
Enquiring wrote: » Oh no, it was clear that Dublin and Kerry were way ahead of everyone else up till the 90's. Things had changed though, other counties were catching up. In fact, many counties had overtaken Dublin. Kildare and Meath were giving Dublin trimmings in Leinster and then Laois and Westmeath and nearly Longford were getting in on the act. That's why Bailey went begging for money in the 90's. He saw what was happening. In a fair competition, Dublin were being bested by teams with a far smaller population. Couldn't be having that so in came Bertie to the rescue.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Wouldnt agree. How many dublin fans would travel to fitzgerald stadium consistently for a start? Are dublin even getting 40,000 on their own doorstep in croke park for leinster games these days? I dont think they are. So you would imagine that moving it elsewhere would be a positive thing. Mayo played kerry in limerick in an all ireland semi final and it was a brilliant occasion with an atmosphere superior to many ive attended in cp. Re boxes, they can pay for a seat the same as everyone else. Gaa is a sport of the common person first and foremost. There are lots of towns that could really do with the business championship games could generate. That is more important than placating some sh*thouse who would only attend in a corporate box, for my money anyway. The whole thing shouldnt hinge on grabbing every cent possible.
Rosita wrote: » 1976 Leinster quarter final - Dublin 5-16 Longford 0-7. Really good All Ireland winning Dublin teams winning big over Longford is not new. Not sure where you get the illusion that they were somehow equals until recently.
kilns wrote: » I cant believe this thread still has legs and this is the most ridiculous comment I have seen on it, embarrassing
Strumms wrote: » Dublin can play as many games as you like outside of Dublin. Then when no fûcker.. Dublin fan or opposition fan can get tickets... uproar from both sides... works fine in the league, Dublin travel without complaint or quibble. Fitzgerald Stadium has only about 49% capacity of Croker. 38,000....9,000 of which are seated....sound reasonable to have an all Ireland quarter or semi final there ? Not to me it doesn’t. Does Fitzgerald have boxes / suites that can be used as a revenue generator to fund the sport from junior to senior, countrywide ? Genuine question, as the majority of its website is dedicated to reminding, reminiscing about the Kerry glory years... no actual technical information.
Enquiring wrote: » Amazingly, Longford were able to compete with Dublin before the millions of euros took effect. It's crazy the difference money can make.
ooter wrote: » The same poster has trotted it out a number of times, I've no doubt it'll be slipped in again in a few days time.
Enquiring wrote: » Yes, no one has suggested that! It's interesting though that you bring up Longford. They nearly beat Dublin in 2006, this was just after the increase in funding was sent Dublin's way. The investment into Dublin GAA was supposed to bring results. The GAA wanted and needed to make a return on it. So Dublin were moved to Croke Park for every championship game for the next 10 years after that scare v Longford. Amazingly, Longford were able to compete with Dublin before the millions of euros took effect. It's crazy the difference money can make.
ooter wrote: » Super 8s is part of the championship, if the game is outside dublin it's an away game. When posters are throwing out blatant untruths like the dublin senior footballers have only played 2 away championship games since 2006, you really have to question the other stuff that is being trotted out.
beggars_bush wrote: » How many of them in leinster were not in a neutral ground? ie portlaoise How many of them were not in super/crap 8s?
Enquiring wrote: » Money did take effect, across the board. About 100 titles in Dublin GAA post funding. Yes, they had a late goal chance if memory serves me correctly. That's how they nearly won. HQ couldn't be having that, Dublin footballers have only played 2 away games in the championship since then! Learn what an away game is.
dobman88 wrote: » Why does a tiered championship work so well in every other aspect of the GAA but is frowned upon when it comes to county football? Leitrim or Wicklow have no chance to win Sam. But in a tiered structure they would have a genuine chance of All Ireland honours. I watched the Joe McDonagh final between Antrim and Kerry. The way they celebrated the win, it definitely mattered.
