dregin wrote: » SARS was also a coronavirus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus The notion that it took 8 months of research to develop these vaccines is completely wrong. The 8 months were spent testing, not developing. The notion that the vaccines are dangerous because they were thrown out in a few months is nothing more than alternative facts pedaled by right wing extremists.
Paul Smeenus wrote: » "The research that helped to develop vaccines against the new coronavirus didn’t start in January. For years, researchers had been paying attention to related coronaviruses, which cause SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome), and some had been working on new kinds of vaccine — an effort that has now paid off spectacularly."https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1 As I understand it, basically there has been a decade of research into vaccines of very, very similar Coronaviruses, and all it really took, comparatively speaking, was some tweaking to the process (and a great deal of motivation).
dregin wrote: » The notion that it took 8 months of research to develop these vaccines is completely wrong. The 8 months were spent testing, not developing. The notion that the vaccines are dangerous because they were thrown out in a few months is nothing more than alternative facts pedaled by right wing extremists.
Moderna’s goal was to get from a vaccine design to a human trial in three months. The design came quickly. “This is not a complicated virus,” Mr. Bancel said. Dr. Graham said that after China released the genetic sequence of the new virus, the vaccine research center zeroed in on the gene for the virus’s spike protein and sent the data to Moderna in a Microsoft Word file. Moderna’s scientists had independently identified the same gene. Mr. Bancel said Moderna then plugged that data into its computers and came up with the design for an mRNA vaccine. The entire process took two days.
Dubinusa wrote: » Trump is an idiot. No doubt. But nobody was ready for this. Clearly, this is a scenario that not to many envisioned. As this virus mutates and spreads more, who will really find a way through? It's a global event and I think when the numbers come in from places like India, Bangladesh and other nations it will boggle the mind. Suppose the vaccine fails to work against mutant strains?
Dubinusa wrote: » On a side note, my daughter has the virus. She got it at work, she works at a hospital. She is doing well, isolating as best she can and believe it or not, running on the treadmill. I believe that younger people are not as vulnerable as us older geezers.
Dubinusa wrote: » Trump is an idiot. No doubt. But nobody was ready for this. Clearly, this is a scenario that not to many envisioned. As this virus mutates and spreads more, who will really find a way through? It's a global event and I think when the numbers come in from places like India, Bangladesh and other nations it will boggle the mind. Suppose the vaccine fails to work against mutant strains? On a side note, my daughter has the virus. She got it at work, she works at a hospital. She is doing well, isolating as best she can and believe it or not, running on the treadmill. I believe that younger people are not as vulnerable as us older geezers. I do think when this is done and dusted, that a different virus will come and cause similar mayhem.
Neil3030 wrote: » Anyone here in haulage/transport/logistics? These new ferry services from Rosslare to Dunkirk to skip the land bridge with the UK, are the drivers going with the trucks? 24 hours at sea, 2-3 times a week? Great to see Rosslare getting more business, but seems that once the delays in the UK straighten themselves out (currently 12-72 hours) the pushback will eventually come from drivers to use the land bridge again - they're hardly paid while sitting on the ferry, right?
Bazzo wrote: » I'm curious as to why the ferry is to Dunkirk(though I'm sure there are good reasons I'm completely ignorant of). The ferry time could surely be significantly reduced by linking Rosslare to a port further west in France?
The Lost Sheep wrote: » Rosslare already serves Cherbourg. Probably is to dunkirk because its much closer to Holland/Germany etc
Squidgy Black wrote: » Nope they're paid, it's all company time, no more than if they were driving. My uncle runs a haulage company for cold freight, some lads are delighted as it means they're getting paid for 24 hours of rest.
Neil3030 wrote: » So as soon as the UK sorts out the delays you'd have to imagine companies will switch back to the land bridge.
connemara man wrote: » And money
Clegg wrote: » I've tried to stay away from virus news as much as possible as it only makes me anxious. But there has been some goodish news on that front today. Stephen Donnelly was on RTE radio a few minutes ago. We've received a shipment of vaccines from Pfizer two days ahead of schedule. As a result of that, they're being rolled out immediately. So we're now targeting to vaccinate 35,000 people this week rather than the original plan of 20,000. He also said that as of yesterday 4,000 people have been vaccinated.
OldRio wrote: » Talked to a neighbour or should I say we shouted at each other with a meadow inbetween. He is a transport manager for a large company moving lorries all around Ireland and Europe. I asked about the new service. It seems his company have had to pay upfront for slots on the ferry for the next 12 months. God knows the cost of that.
Podge_irl wrote: » I actually doubt it. For one, the UK will never "sort out the delays" without rejoining the SM/CU, only mitigate them. Secondly, the sea-routes actually bring some benefits as the drivers can drive for their full 8 hours after disembarkation whereas the ones going via the landbridge will need to park up a couple hours after getting into France anyway.
Neil3030 wrote: » The benefits in terms of driver rest would have been factored into pre-Brexit cost-benefit decisions that favoured the land bridge. It'll all boil down to the delays. It's also inevitable the Sea Truck and equivalent services start sniffing around Ireland-France routes, if companies are paying drivers to sit on boats for a day.
Podge_irl wrote: » It will, but there simply wasn't the critical mass of services available either before. A several times a week ferry vs a daily ferry makes a massive difference to the calculation. The delays will never go away.
Neil3030 wrote: » True. Inertia was a factor in changing, and will become a factor in changing back. I wouldn't rule out the delays being resolved though. Much like the kid with the dead arm, the UK government have an over-riding need to cry "that didn't hurt!" right now. And the optics of clogged motorways is hard to spin positively. A massively expensive tech solution is surely being brewed up. Sure, may be at the expense of trivial matters like teachers and doctors, but FREEDOM or something.
Podge_irl wrote: » Switzerland hasn't remotely managed it with a lot of money and decades of trying. The border moves quite smoothly most of the time, but massive delays also occur with reasonable regularity. It is simply impossible to rule those delays out because no matter what system you have in place it relies on people using it properly 100% of the time which will never happen. Things will get better for sure, but the days of unfettered logistics are over.
Neil3030 wrote: » Are trucks sent a different route to cars at the Swiss-Italian border? Because I drove (a car) through a couple of times, and it wasn't any hassle at all. (The border near Como)
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