plumber77 wrote: » Its possible that a slightly shorter shaft may have his strikes closer to centre and therefore giving him more confidence to increase swing speed. Did you get to actually drive the recommended driver set up? Indoor or outdoor fitting?
conor-w wrote: » You could take the advice they gave on some stuff and do it yourself, buy a set of shafts online and have a local shop fit them, and bend your irons? If you're happy enough with the driver I'd leave it. I was fitted into a shorter driver by fore golf 2 years ago, have spent every day since wondering if I should get rid of it for a longer one.
copacetic wrote: » I’d go see someone else, shorter shafted driver and looking for ‘more run’ are out of date ideas. Your fitting should have been all about speed, launch angles etc.
slingerz wrote: » Thanks folks some interesting replies there. My advice was for a shorter driver as I wasn’t getting the most of my speed and a lower lofted (9’) heavier & stiffer shaft for driver would make me more accurate getting more run on my drives. My drives are pretty decent usually so I am sceptical as to the gains I would actually see. For irons it was recommended to get longer irons (1/2”) that lie should be +1 upright with a stiffer shaft than present. The irons selected are less forgiving than those I currently play and the belief is they would be more penetrating ball flight and a tighter dispersion on shots. Wedges follow the same as the irons It’s a big chunk of change and I’m struggling to see or perhaps understand the benefit I would get. I was thinking of bringing in the changes piecemeal by going driver + wedges given my home course would mean I wouldn’t be hitting irons to many greens anyway
Finlay Harp wrote: » I was an advocate of Foregolf until recently. Fitted for a wood that really wasn’t what I wanted and price was overinflated but went with it as I believed the hype. Visited a golf pro before Christmas with similar setup for iron fitting and was delighted with results and price. I think the prices the OP is quoting are for high end gear. Better prices and advice to be had by looking at other options including a good pro in a local club.
slingerz wrote: » I recently visited a club fitter who recommended a new makeup of clubs for irons, wedges and driver. My question is really is it worth it? It’s approx a 2K outlay for everything with the irons being 1K of that. For those that have gone that route, have you seen the benefits? And would you consider them to be real or to be psychological?
plumber77 wrote: » I was fitted at Foregolf a couple of years back. I've massive spin on my driver, due to a Jim Furyk type swing. The recommended driver they not help at all. Since been to a pro in Cork and the difference a heavier/shorter shaft makes for me personally was eye opening.
plumber77 wrote: » Pm sent
plumber77 wrote: » Went to Padraig Dooley of Drive Golf performance on the recommendation from a friend
Oh no. The wife was looking for something to get me for Christmas. I don't really need anything so suggested getting fitted for a new 3w as the one I have is a regular shaft which is probably the wrong flex for me. That said, I tend to be fairly long and straight with it, but it solves the problem of having to get me s something for Christmas.
Got chatting to the fitter and decided to book in for a full bag assessment, I just thought I'd enjoy it. I loved the driver fitting I did, so thought this would be a real treat.
I then got chatting about my current equipment. I got my irons 10 years ago on a great deal. R11s, stiff shaft, Ex demo set - 9 irons for €450. It was about half of what I'd have paid in halfpenny at the time. And I love them, love the look and feel and I can really smack them. However, it turns out my shaft is designed for high trajectory, high spin and distance. I went for a lesson a few weeks ago to try to address the problem that hitting into the wind, the high irons just don't stop climbing. 8i carries over 140m with no wind, into a stiff breeze it could start coming back to me and go 80m. And well left or right once it goes up there. From looking at those shafts now, it seems that they've secretly been conspiring against me this whole time.
So now I have two problems. Firstly, I was intending to spend a couple hundred on a wood. Now I'm looking at spending god knows what on a set of irons. And secondly, while I can see that this could lower my scores, a part of me doesn't want to change how I hit the ball. I like that I'm longer than pretty much everyone I play with with my irons. Usually much longer. I like that if I have to hit over trees it's rarely intimidating. I like that I don't have to think about my ball running much on greens. A well struck 4i into a green is probably going to run about 2m. So if I have to clear a bunker, unless I fly it over the green entirely, I'm more than likely putting if I carry the bunker.
It'll just be an adjustment to my mindset that's needed. If I decide to part with the money of course. I love the look of the Wilson cb irons. But 4i to pw you're probably looking at €1,200. That's a lot of money!
If it was me i would want to be able to play all the shots with the irons i have. It sounds like you really struggle into the wind for distance so i think you need something in between. But your irons should allow you to play the high/mid/low ball as you need to. That is a skill that you should be using to dictate the height of the shot not the club dictating you can only play high shots. How do you manage on windy days?
Was there much difference in distance between the old and suggested new irons? or have you not had the fitting yet?
I want to have the option to play it lower - that's specifically why I went for the lesson. But if the clubs are set up for max spin and height, it must be harder to do with them than a more neutral set. So maybe a change could make those shots easier.
I wouldn't say it's as straightforward as I struggle for distance into the wind. A 4 or 5 iron will still travel a good distance into a wind. 6 or 7 irons aren't bad. But by the time I get to an 8 iron there's definitely a problem. All dependent on just how windy it is of course.
And the wind is a massive problem for my game now. Previously it wasn't too bad. Because on longer courses when playing into a wind you're hitting lower irons or even woods into greens. And they're not as big a problem. The problem now is that on the course I play the longer irons are too long for my approach shots, even on windy days. So I end up hitting it into the air and hoping for the best or taking a lower lofted club, ball back in my stance, gripped down, half swing. I've been trying to make this sort of shot natural to me for a long time now and I just can't get it. So the result is anything really - bladed through a green, chunked short, shank, sliced, hooked. All of these can be scratched holes. As I say on a very windy day I could throw it up into the air and it could blow miles left or right and I might be hoping it'll fly 110m and it ends up going 80m. That can also be a scratched hole.
If a different set could let me swing closer to my normal swing and not keep climbing endlessly into the wind, my life would be easier.
And I haven't been fitted yet. Maybe I won't lose all that much distance, but if I do it shouldn't bother me. It would actually be to my advantage if I could play full shots closer to the hole. If I'm further away I could just hit an extra club. I'm just being honest and admitting that I enjoy when people ask what I played into a hole and it was a 7 iron, whereas they might have a 4 in their hand. What I should enjoy more is when someone asks on the first tee what my handicap is and I can say 15 instead of 18 or something, but I have my faults.
God I love the fitting experience! I bought my irons about 10 years ago. Ex demo set, stiff shafts which was great because I've a relatively fast swing. I loved them and it never dawned on me to be honest that they were unsuitable for me.
It turns out that the shaft was very wrong for me and definitely adds to the problem of me hitting it so high. And I always enjoyed hitting it longer than others. Turns out the clubs were extra long as well! And offset just for the craic.
In particular with the shafts, they made an immediate difference. I was spinning at around 10k on the 7 iron. When I got a better angle of attack (I'm on the shallow side) I got it up to 12k. I believe it's supposed to be closer to 7k. So I've to confirm with the fitter (and club builder in fairness to him) that I'm going ahead with the purchase but I think I'll be going towards the Srixon zx7s. They really are lovely clubs. The fit is a tad aspirational, but I think that's a good thing. I've a good backswing, but then tend to cut off my actual swing. So if I don't stop cutting it off, it doesn't really matter what the fit is. But that was the thing that was mentioned to me at the lesson I went to a few months ago. So it was something I intended to address anyway.
It's bloody expensive though! I didn't intend to get anything, but then the wife was looking to get me something for Christmas so I suggested a new golf club, so I was thinking of a new 3w or something for a couple hundred. Now I can add a grand to that and it's not her that will be paying it!
Sounds like you had a successful fitting. Is the fitted 7iron spinning at 10K?
Where did you get the fitting done?
I got it done in Tramore with Peter Doyle - Precision fitting. He was excellent. The spin rate was way down on the fitted irons - 6-7 thousand.
I'm really going to miss my old irons. Hitting the ball a long way and stopping it quickly is a great trick. If I was going for a par 5 in two, I could carry my second over 180m with the 4i and holding the green wasn't a concern. Hitting it was obviously, but if I hit it I was unlikely to run off. But hitting it so high just doesn't work on a windy day. The ball goes into the clouds and hangs there. Even if it's a cross wind and not that strong it can still move my ball 20m. If you're offline to begin with you can miss by 40m without being all that far from executing the shot the way you intended. Hitting into the wind it's impossible to know how to play it.
I used to get away with this when I was a member in Tramore. I'd launch it at a green and if I blew offline I'd probably have a chip onto the green. So if I did it on three holes there's a good chance I'd be coming out with a par and two bogies or something. Whereas going that far offline in Corballis - you're relieved each time you find one. And my handicap has gone out 7 shots from what it was in Tramore. I don't believe I'm playing all that much worse. So hopefully this new set of irons will help me play a more controlled game.
