Die Hard WW Game Thread ( An action movie that takes place at Xmas! )

Yeah that's what I mean, if you discount Orla's 'No Vote' - which isn't mentioned in the rules then her last valid vote was on me which made it a 3-3 tie

Necro wrote: »

I literally said out loud that I thought Brendan was a JOAT

Your tenses are wrong though

Katie WW wrote:

Why would someone manipulate the votes to either save Orla or more likely kill Necro?

It could be a vote manipulation that was in place from earlier in the day and was locked in. I was going hard on Necro so perhaps whomever placed it couldnt change it to adapt to the final vote tally

Necro wrote: »

Doesn't look like they could use it on Day 1 though.

Tbh I was just thinking that Orla's 'No Vote' wasn't valid and just counted on me as last valid vote made.

Rules state you can vote for No Lynch but don't say you can 'No Vote'

Rikand said specifically ye were both on three

Otherwise Baggly was in the mix too?

Katie WW wrote: »

What’s this about??

I literally said out loud that I thought Brendan was a JOAT

This is one such scuffle. There was another one on Day 1 as well, gonna pull that up next

Katie WW wrote: »

@patrick - you said you'd tell me later why you voted Kathleen?

Patrick WW wrote: »

My own amusement.

Katie WW wrote: »

Well I’d like the answers to lots of your questions

I’d also like a better answer to why you voted Kathleen, I felt there was more to it than your own amusement

Patrick WW wrote: »

Shoot with any question you want.

Why does my vote for Ms Grant bother you?

Katie WW wrote: »

I did shoot with a question

Do you even see what you do? You ignored it and came back with a question.

So you’ve asked for questions, I’ve given one and you haven’t answered. So don’t be surprised when people say you ask questions ans don’t answer

You said earlier you’d explain your vote, you haven’t, that’s what bothers me

See how you answer questions?

Patrick WW wrote: »

You literally said you had lots of questions. I asked you to fire ahead.

You asked me to better answer my kathleen vote. In what terms? I explained it was for my own amusement. What bothers you about my vote?

Be specific about what bothers you about my vote?

Necro wrote: »

I feel stupid mentioning it on thread tbh. One of those silly brainfart moments.

What’s this about??

Eva WW wrote: »

It wasn't a second vote, they could end the day at a point where no more votes would count. I assumed that was how they got the tie with Necro tbh

That doesn’t make sense either
I voted late enough and for Necro
If they’d stopped the day earlier Necro would be on less votes

Why would someone manipulate the votes to either save Orla or more likely kill Necro?

y0ssar1an22

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Why would he be mod killed?

looking at the rules, he wont be modkilled but might be automatically lynched due to penalty votes.

sometimes the mods will just kill players who are not participating

Eva WW wrote:

I'm interested in what you were saying about Patrick and Katie not being on a team because I think they might be.

I'm saying that off a hunch and loose memory. I'll do an analysis and know better tbh.

Eva WW wrote: »

The only other option would be that he protected Necro but there is always the old "peeks Good" option to be wary of.

I'm interested in what you were saying about Patrick and Katie not being on a team because I think they might be.

They've had a number of scuffles in the past couple of days that have kind of fizzled out. Couple of people pointing to myself and Baggly's interactions as staged (spoiler: They aren't) but maybe we should take a closer look at them

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what are the chances he is mod killed?

bear with me here....if he is a NRV and will be modkilled are we better of lynching him?

otherwise its a free kill for the wolves. there are pros and cons to weigh up but there is merit in having the discussion i think

Why would he be mod killed?

Baggly wrote: »

I'd be amazed if there wasn't a protect on you, given you were an outed role.

So it's either brendo took the hit or you weren't targeted.

The only other option would be that he protected Necro but there is always the old "peeks Good" option to be wary of.

I'm interested in what you were saying about Patrick and Katie not being on a team because I think they might be.

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Angus and Frank both voted for Orla and Brendan voted for Frank so does that mean Frank is bad?

Scrap that. Forgot Frank was dead. I see i am going to need to get a pen and paper. The auld mind is not as sharp as it used to be.

y0ssar1an22

Eva WW wrote: »

I was just going to mention fixxxer. With the number of missed votes and missed post counts he must be in line for the lynch tonight. We will need a proper strategy for the lynch later to make it harder for wolves to hide.

what are the chances he is mod killed?

bear with me here....if he is a NRV and will be modkilled are we better of lynching him?

otherwise its a free kill for the wolves. there are pros and cons to weigh up but there is merit in having the discussion i think

I'd be amazed if there wasn't a protect on you, given you were an outed role.

So it's either brendo took the hit or you weren't targeted.

KathleenGrant wrote: »

If Brendan only had one peek and used that on Necro, how could he be sure you were good?

He couldn't but the best way of proving me good would be to put in a protect on me and hope that wolves went for me. We can't be 100% sure that I was the one protected. If Brendan was alive and said "Yeah I protected Eva" that would prove I'm not a wolf because they can't munch their own...sadly he is not, so I'm still a maybe but the fact that I shot Frank today does prove I have a gun at least.

Angus and Frank both voted for Orla and Brendan voted for Frank so does that mean Frank is bad?

Necro wrote:

What do we do about fixXxer? Just leave him there? Conor's input isn't much better tbh, ditto with Phils.

If there is a wolf in that three then it's disappointing they can't contribute more but what else can we do. They need to start posting to give whomever survives something to analyse. Don't want to be getting to end game and village doesn't have anything to go on, either directly from their posts or from their interactions with others.

With two gunmen seemingly in play I don't know if Eva is cleared. I'd be much happier if they started signalling at the last minute who their shot was on.

I'm laying off Necro for now. He is a good player so if he keeps surviving it will raise questions in itself. I still think he is playing non village but in all honesty you guys are right I need to look elsewhere as well.

I wouldn't go past a liz Kathleen wolf team. They voted together on me which had me take note. They need to speek up more or my vote will go to one of them.

Other than that it's hard to see Katie and pat being teammates. That probably bears an ISO and interactions analysis tbh.

Katie WW wrote: »

If there’s no second neutral team why was Necro on three votes N1?

I had kinda assumed that because Team 1 had a vote manipulation then so did Team 2 but that’s shot now

Someone obviously had a second vote. Who benefited from that D1?

There are only 2 votes for Necro.

Baggly wrote: »

Morning all

Morning Baggly, any thoughts to share?

Eva WW wrote: »

It wasn't a second vote, they could end the day at a point where no more votes would count. I assumed that was how they got the tie with Necro tbh

Doesn't look like they could use it on Day 1 though.

Tbh I was just thinking that Orla's 'No Vote' wasn't valid and just counted on me as last valid vote made.

Rules state you can vote for No Lynch but don't say you can 'No Vote'

Necro wrote: »

What do we do about fixXxer? Just leave him there? Conor's input isn't much better tbh, ditto with Phils.

I was just going to mention fixxxer. With the number of missed votes and missed post counts he must be in line for the lynch tonight. We will need a proper strategy for the lynch later to make it harder for wolves to hide.

Katie WW wrote: »

If there’s no second neutral team why was Necro on three votes N1?

I had kinda assumed that because Team 1 had a vote manipulation then so did Team 2 but that’s shot now

Someone obviously had a second vote. Who benefited from that D1?

It wasn't a second vote, they could end the day at a point where no more votes would count. I assumed that was how they got the tie with Necro tbh

Morning all

What do we do about fixXxer? Just leave him there? Conor's input isn't much better tbh, ditto with Phils.

Rikand wrote: »

Day 1: Automated Votals from #1 to #25

Conor WW (1): Eva WW
Angus WW (1): Emily WW
Necro (2): Baggly, Katie WW
Baggly (2): JP Liz V1, KathleenGrant
Senan WW (1): Necro
Katie WW (1): y0ssar1an22
Orla WW (3): Angus WW, Frank WW, fixxxer
Eva WW (2): Patrick WW, Conor WW
No Vote (1): Orla WW
Frank WW (1): Brendan WW
Not voting (2):Phil WW, Senan WW, No Vote

Phase has ended.

Just double checking these results and then I will return to you

Orla was on three so it makes no sense unless it was her or Senan and he didn’t even vote

If there’s no second neutral team why was Necro on three votes N1?

I had kinda assumed that because Team 1 had a vote manipulation then so did Team 2 but that’s shot now

Someone obviously had a second vote. Who benefited from that D1?

Sorry that would be 4 wolves total, 3 left