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Die Hard WW Game Thread ( An action movie that takes place at Xmas! )

Rikand

Ever been invited to the wrong party by mistake ?

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Well, that's exactly what has happened to John McClane. Flying all the way from New York to Los Angeles for a Christmas Party in the impressive Nakitomi Plaza, amongst a whole crowd of people he doesnt know.

It's not all bad. He has just received the best piece of air travel advice he is ever likely to receive. He's had a fantastic limo ride to the party and he's just had his first homosexual encounter..... " Jesus! F***in' California!

But all is not as it seems. After meeting Joe Takagi, his apprehensions were not allayed when he saw Master Negotiatior and Chief Sleezeball, Harry Ellis snorting something powdery off his soon to be ex-wives office table. Especially when it was clear to see that he'd "missed a bit."

And it's just about to get a lot more interesting. The Terrorists are right outside and they are about to make their presence felt...

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y0ssar1an22

Necro wrote: »

3, max 4. Would make for 5 or 6 non villagers in the group of 17 and 11/12 villagers.

lets plan for the worst. 4 wolves left, or 4 wolves total?

4 left: 7 vs 4

3 left: 8 vs 3

Necro

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i think for the minute we need to assume there is no neutral team 2.

i dont do game design but based on 1 neutral team of 2, 17 players total, how many are likely?

3, max 4. Would make for 5 or 6 non villagers in the group of 17 and 11/12 villagers.

y0ssar1an22

Necro wrote: »

How many wolves do we think are left?

i think for the minute we need to assume there is no neutral team 2.

i dont do game design but based on 1 neutral team of 2, 17 players total, how many are likely?

Necro

How many wolves do we think are left?

y0ssar1an22

Angus Emily
Senan Necro
Orla Angus Frank Fixer
Necro Baggly Orla Katie
Conor Eva
Frank Brendan
Eva Patrick Conor
No vote Orla
Katie Yoss
Baggly JP Liz Kathleen Grant

i think this is last nights votes. I am unsure if orla's vote was on necro or no vote.
Senan did not vote night 1?

Necro - peeked by brendan the JOAT - good (95% chance)
Katie WW
Eva WW - vigilante?
Baggly
Patrick WW
Orla WW - lynched N1 - neutral teams Vigilante
Angus WW - lynched N2 - wolf role blocker
y0ssar1an22
Emily WW - munhed morning 2 - village seer
JP Liz V1
Brendan WW - shot morning 3 - JOAT
Conor WW
KathleenGrant
Senan WW - Shot morning 2 - neutral teams roleblocker
Frank WW - shot morning 3 - NRV
fixXxer
Phil WW

neutral team 1 has been eliminated

other:
brendan peeked necro as village
eva claimed a failed shot on someone
wolves had a failed hit on morning 3
have left out n2 votes as they were all on angus

think this is correct

Necro

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Ok and just one more thing. Why would a person announce themselves to be something if it targets them. Like Eva saying she has shooting powers or Brendan perking powers if it targets them to be taken out quicker. Like Brendan is gone already and Eva could have been.

Eva came out to avoid a lynch, so to avoid being killed. Brendan had information on a player. Smarter option MAY have been to stay schtum but they made a decision to release that info for what they felt was the benefit of the village.

KathleenGrant

Necro wrote: »

Correct. Character claiming would be someone saying 'I'm XXXX one of the characters from the movie'

Ok and just one more thing. Why would a person announce themselves to be something if it targets them. Like Eva saying she has shooting powers or Brendan peeking powers if it targets them to be taken out quicker. Like Brendan is gone already and Eva could have been.

Necro

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Oh right, thanks. And character claiming? That's the actual character, not your role. So Eva saying she is the village vig is not character claiming?

Correct. Character claiming would be someone saying 'I'm XXXX one of the characters from the movie'

KathleenGrant

Katie WW wrote: »

Not necessarily, I wouldn’t clear anyone

Patrick had a theory that Hans would peek good

Oh right, thanks. And character claiming? That's the actual character, not your role. So Eva saying she is the village vig is not character claiming?

KathleenGrant

Necro wrote: »

Nah that's why I disregarded in the first place tbh. Any suspicions yourself after the happenings of the last day or so.

Sometimes a few of us have a tendency to... ahem... dominate the thread so it can be good to have other opinions come to the fore.

Probably gonna take a bit of a backseat today myself and let other people post some more

I see you also think i played before but i really haven't. Ok i guessed JOAT meant Jack of all Trades but it wouldn't take a genius to work it out. I didn't post much yesterday because i was afraid i would say something to mark me for one group or the other. Like my introduction made people think i was Hans yesterday.

Katie WW

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Hi was absent much of last night. Brendan did have a peek then and he was good so he must be right about Necro being a villager?
Oh and what's the difference between a villager and a vanilla villager?

Not necessarily, I wouldn’t clear anyone

Patrick had a theory that Hans would peek good

Katie WW

Eva WW wrote: »

I'm assuming the same. Any chance you'll believe me now that I'm the village vig?

There’s a large part of me that wants to be stubborn and not believe you

But

Maybe I won’t push for a Lynch on you today

KathleenGrant

Eva WW wrote: »

I'm assuming the same. Any chance you'll believe me now that I'm the village vig?

If Brendan only had one peek and used that on Necro, how could he be sure you were good?

Necro

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Rikand asked people to quote bits and gifs from the film and i don't know how to do gifs and that was the only quote i could remember with an introduction so i said it. I see it made people suspect me but it really was just a quote.

Nah that's why I disregarded in the first place tbh. Any suspicions yourself after the happenings of the last day or so.

Sometimes a few of us have a tendency to... ahem... dominate the thread so it can be good to have other opinions come to the fore.

Probably gonna take a bit of a backseat today myself and let other people post some more

KathleenGrant

Necro wrote: »

Yep, but of course I would say that

Kathleen what was with the Bill Clay intro may I ask?

Rikand asked people to quote bits and gifs from the film and i don't know how to do gifs and that was the only quote i could remember with an introduction so i said it. I see it made people suspect me but it really was just a quote.

Eva WW

Katie WW wrote: »

Not a good look for me, spent yesterday hounding the JOAT

I presume that angel was over you Eva?

I'm assuming the same. Any chance you'll believe me now that I'm the village vig?

Necro

Vanilla villager is NRV - so no powers or stuff.

Necro

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Hi was absent much of last night. Brendan did have a peek then and he was good so he must be right about Necro being a villager?

Yep, but of course I would say that

Kathleen what was with the Bill Clay intro may I ask?

KathleenGrant

Hi was absent much of last night. Brendan did have a peek then and he was good so he must be right about Necro being a villager?
Oh and what's the difference between a villager and a vanilla villager?

Necro

I feel stupid mentioning it on thread tbh. One of those silly brainfart moments.

Katie WW

Necro wrote: »

Well someone was angeled surely. Two shots is surely a good look for you Eva, no actions from a second neutral team again so I'm gonna ignore that possibility until something else presents itself.

Need FFAs from everyone today and people need to look beyond their usual scope of suspects imo

Not a good look for me, spent yesterday hounding the JOAT

I presume that angel was over you Eva?

Necro

Be back in a few hrs, hopefully there's more life in the thread then

Necro

Eva WW wrote: »

I'm guessing I have Brendan to thank for being still alive. Unfortunately I took out Frank a vanillager

Well someone was angeled surely. Two shots is surely a good look for you Eva, no actions from a second neutral team again so I'm gonna ignore that possibility until something else presents itself.

Need FFAs from everyone today and people need to look beyond their usual scope of suspects imo

Eva WW

Right...time to iso the hell out of everyone. Have my laptop back so that will be easier.

Eva WW

I'm guessing I have Brendan to thank for being still alive. Unfortunately I took out Frank a vanillager

Necro

Also balls

Well played Brendan, looks like you angeled someone on your way out too

Necro

I think Baggly's reaction to being suspected has been very consistent.

Look at when Angus FFAs him:

Angus WW wrote: »

FFA for me

1. Orla - Reasons outlined earlier. Second vote on me, no reasoning and only things shes posted (4 posts) have been fluff

2. Baggly - 4 posts, one good morning, one disagreeing with Katie saying anon was more likely to be lynched nd then another below which is a bit ironic given how quiet he has been.

3. Frank - the slip thing is a little stretchy to be honest and I wouldn't think a wolf would throw out 4 names like that. But as pointed out, he just lumped the 4 top posters in for the craic by the looks of it so he just makes the FFA given the lack of viable alternatives.

Baggly wrote: »

The absolute irony of this post.

Angus WW wrote: »

The irony of your appearance shortly after i posted it given the context

Genie much

Baggly wrote: »

I haven't been online all day. Would you rather I not post simply because you mentioned me? It was a coincidence.... But what is noteworthy is that your ffa is largely useless imo. The irony of claiming my post saying people will meta non anon posters is a meta reason to suspect me... You couldn't write it.

Baggly wrote: »

Well... You wrote it.

It's just its bs.

Then a comparison to when I FFA him:

Baggly wrote: »

If you think I am a wolf why aren't you trying to convince others to Lynch me?

Baggly wrote: »

Go back and read what I posted Necro. Utter reaching ****e from you.

And finally when others start mentioning him.

Baggly wrote: »

I'm village through and through. I'm not on a team with anyone except the wider village team. If I don't get online later the mini wagon that might form on me is idiotic.

If it blossoms into a full wagon you guys should look back at this post and remember I told you that you will look like idiots (if all of you are villagers that is).

Fairly consistent throughout, more outraged at the fact he could be suspected, I see it as villagery tbh. He didn't hide from Angus FFAing him either.

Rikand

One of the party had had enough of all this bull****. Like what's the point in being invited to the wrong party by mistake if you dont get to kill people. he walked over to one of the open windows, pointed his 9mm beretta into the street and killed this hapless civilian. Not sure why he thought there was anyone worth killing outside, but only he will know his reasons for this. he had to stop him, or else he'd be dead too!

Frank WW is dead - He was Walt, the City Worker, a vanilla villager

Meanwhile the wolves made a move on their next target, they picked this person out who they perceived as a real threat and just as they were about to strike they were encountered by a blinding flash of white light.... the heavens opened and a heavenly figure clothed in white and with wings stood between them and their target obscured their view of who they wanted to kill. When the light faded and the figure disappeared, their target was nowhere to be seen and they had missed their opportunity.

That was not to stop the terrorist holding the Steyr Aug Rifle who also took aim out into the street. One shot was all it took and his target met a cruel end...

Brendan WW is dead - He was Sergeant Al Powell, the village Jack of all Trades (JOAT)

You are the village Jack Of All Trades(JOAT). You have four actions: Peek/Vig/Angel/Roleblock. Every night starting night 1, you can target someone with one of those actions. You can only use each action once. Once the action is used, it is gone. You can choose to withhold an action on any night of your choosing and you will not lose an action that night

IT IS DAY!

Eva WW

Trying to come up with some final amazing insights but it turns out that spending most if my time defending myself hasn't made me a very good detective.

Been thinking about Brendan's one time power. Could it be that there are a few more out there which is why so little skepticism. Or could it be that Brendan is on the fabled second neutral team and that team has different powers? The other alternative is that the wolf team have a seer and Brendan may or may not be it.

I can't imagine that the village only has seer and vig powers so hopefully there are a few more lurking in the background.

Too many flying under the radar. Any thusfar quiet village need to get talking

Necro

When thread was quiet there was some chatter too from yosser and Brendan:

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what do you think of the few votes that have been cast thus far?

Brendan WW wrote: »

Fluff so far maybe place holding.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

certainly emily i think.

dont know about necro and orla.

angus because of orla

Not much, but could be yosser steering convo off Angus

This is more damning evidence for Frank

Necro wrote: »

I'm currently having a game of eeney meeney miney mo between Frank and Orla tbh.

Loads of time and loads of votes to come in yet though, so no panic. If Senan doesn't appear I probably will just leave my vote where it is presently though.

Angus WW wrote: »

Not sure on Frank, I get the logic for the heat but does a wolf lob out 4 names on day 0 like that when it will obviously attract attention. I do get the slip angle though

Again, subtle steering off Frank onto a non-team-mate this looks like