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Die Hard WW Game Thread ( An action movie that takes place at Xmas! )

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Ever been invited to the wrong party by mistake ?

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Well, that's exactly what has happened to John McClane. Flying all the way from New York to Los Angeles for a Christmas Party in the impressive Nakitomi Plaza, amongst a whole crowd of people he doesnt know.

It's not all bad. He has just received the best piece of air travel advice he is ever likely to receive. He's had a fantastic limo ride to the party and he's just had his first homosexual encounter..... " Jesus! F***in' California!

But all is not as it seems. After meeting Joe Takagi, his apprehensions were not allayed when he saw Master Negotiatior and Chief Sleezeball, Harry Ellis snorting something powdery off his soon to be ex-wives office table. Especially when it was clear to see that he'd "missed a bit."

And it's just about to get a lot more interesting. The Terrorists are right outside and they are about to make their presence felt...

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Eva WW

Katie WW wrote: »

The fact is that you said you could shoot someone, not that you were a vig

Yes. I said that because I didn't want the bad guys to know for sure I was the village vig. I find it better not to give them any more info than necessary. I did say I was RV which means roled village but if they thought I only had one shot maybe they might risk leaving me alive.

The only reason I clarified this morning was to avoid another day of let's lynch Eva for the craic. Village needs to force them to kill me rather than having a mislynch and if we are incredibly lucky I might get to shoot an evil too.

Phil WW

I see in the above post that Frank called out the top 4 posters which is just lazy. Call people out, get them talking and disappear again.

Frank is my top wolf read at the moment but voting for Angus based on Emily's vote yesterday. Feeling a bit off about Baggly too because he keeps on about people dragging him back into Necro but like, if he's annoying you Baggly...just ignore him? Don't understand why you keep going back to him.

Phil WW

Can't multi quote on mobile but Frank is definitely very very suspicious to me for his immediate jump on Emily early on in the game for voting angus. His wolf pile was Emily Eva Katie and Necro, one we know was good and one has been semi confirmed good. I like Katie and Eva myself for village also as they're chatty... But they could also be neutrals, I guess.

Katie WW

Eva WW wrote: »

It's called playing the game. I said I could prove my claim by shooting someone. I never said I only had one shot. Then look what happened...my shot got blocked. Who might want to make me look like a liar? Ohhhh could it possibly be the wolves hoping for a mislynch?

I only role claimed this morning because I was being piled on once again and having seen the powers that the Neutral Team had I think I'm fooked anyway.

The fact is that you said you could shoot someone, not that you were a vig

Look obviously I'm going to look at it like that because it suits my narrative, I could be wrong of course. You're not getting lynched today so a lot could change in 24 hours.

I'm doing my best not to tunnel you, same with Brendan.

@Brendan - you asked me earlier if I came out of your tunnel who would I suspect, well based off Angus's ISO its Frank, third on an FFA despite his films reasons being countered right before he did the FFA

Katie WW

Short ISO of Angus up until we figure out he's peeked

A bit of back and forth with Orla, understandably ignores Emily

Angus WW wrote: »

Two people voted me, im less offended by Emily's one and Orlas just jumped on which is sussy. Quick flick of the posts and they all seem a little tasky! Tasks dont indicate alignment necessarily but I'm good and shes voted me so ill work on that logic.

Angus WW wrote: »

Emily said this, so it didn't bother me as it appears a method to get people talking! Orla jumping on afterwards is lazy in my mind along with the fluff posts

Shades Frank, its later clarified that Frank FFA'd the top four posters.

Angus WW wrote: »

Not sure on Frank, I get the logic for the heat but does a wolf lob out 4 names on day 0 like that when it will obviously attract attention. I do get the slip angle though

But Angus ignores this and sticks Frank at the bottom of his FFA. Baggly stuck in the middle without much reason. Very bad look for Frank, also bad for Baggly.

Angus WW wrote: »

FFA for me

1. Orla - Reasons outlined earlier. Second vote on me, no reasoning and only things shes posted (4 posts) have been fluff

2. Baggly - 4 posts, one good morning, one disagreeing with Katie saying anon was more likely to be lynched nd then another below which is a bit ironic given how quiet he has been.

3. Frank - the slip thing is a little stretchy to be honest and I wouldn't think a wolf would throw out 4 names like that. But as pointed out, he just lumped the 4 top posters in for the craic by the looks of it so he just makes the FFA given the lack of viable alternatives.

Stands up for Necro, feels more like wolf being helpful villager

Angus WW wrote: »

Anyone able to do a post count, im on mobile!

I feel Necro is getting a lot of ****e here for stating facts. Orla, you've been contradictory a lot today which is why your in the line. You might say you misremembered etc but to everyone else that looks wolfy yet you don't see that!

Eva v Katie
Necro v Baggly

Some standoffs happening but a lot not contributing at all. Good to see some FFAs even if some of the reasoning has been somewhat contradictory.

Name checks Phil, Senan and Fixxer.

Angus WW wrote: »

Be interested to hear Philly and Senans thoughts today! Fixxxer too

More slight shade on Brendan

Angus WW wrote: »

Out of those, I had Emily on the neutral team

Brendan also mentioned factions at an odd time in proceedings. I'll try find the post in a few mins

More about Baggly but doesn't read like someone he'd have third on his FFA

Angus WW wrote: »

I'm not sure of Necros alignment at all and his move off Orla last night didn't sit well me. Bagglys tunnel has been there since the start and tbh is coming across as deep in a tunnel. Not helping anyway

Disbelieves Eva having a shot, which may or may not be true. Feels like wolf playing village, wouldn't put them on a team

Angus WW wrote: »

I dont buy both Eva and Orla having a shot, Eva survived and then has been in hiding since relatively speaking. I think they were both on the same time trying to avoid the lynch hence the lack of switching

Flips on his opinion of Brendan, not a great look either

Angus WW wrote: »

I'm inclined to believe you for now as you'd no reason to put your head above water. I had a village lean on Necro, given we've lost the seer though ill be skeptical about the nature of your role for now

Name checks half the posters

Angus WW wrote: »

People ive no reads on

KathleenGrant
Jp Liz
Frank
Conor
Fixxxer
Yoss
Phil

Little concerned with how big this list is tbh.

Brendan and Eva getting the heat, probably rightly so but its giving a few heads a chance to keep the head down

Based off this I'd have Frank as his main team-mate, with Baggly next, then one of Fixxer or Phil (we know he's not Neutral 1 so we can discount the mention of Senan with these two). Brendan as an outside shout based on this.

But Frank needs serious looking at based on this

Eva WW

Katie WW wrote: »

Last nite she says she can shoot someone, singular

This morning I give my FFA2 after the morning's excitement

She responds to that saying she's the village vig, not what she claimed the nite before

And then later restates it

It's called playing the game. I said I could prove my claim by shooting someone. I never said I only had one shot. Then look what happened...my shot got blocked. Who might want to make me look like a liar? Ohhhh could it possibly be the wolves hoping for a mislynch?

I only role claimed this morning because I was being piled on once again and having seen the powers that the Neutral Team had I think I'm fooked anyway.

Brendan WW

Necro wrote: »

Anyways, it's panto time.

Laters skaters

Oh No it isn't

Necro

Anyways, it's panto time.

Laters skaters

Necro

That's a bit of a stretch for me Katie tbh. Soz.

Katie WW

Last nite she says she can shoot someone, singular

Eva WW wrote: »

I can shoot someone.

This morning I give my FFA2 after the morning's excitement

Katie WW wrote: »

I’m out for a while

#FFA2

Eva - I see two scenarios. 1 - she shot Senan, I don’t understand why she would say she shot Conor though. But there’s no announcement of a missed shot which is just weird. 2 - Neutral Team 1 had a vig therefore Neutral Team 2 has a vig, her shot was blocked, possibly by Senan.

She responds to that saying she's the village vig, not what she claimed the nite before

Eva WW wrote: »

Let me give you a third. I'm the village vig and everyone jumping on me has made me useless. Congrats.

And then later restates it

Eva WW wrote: »

That I am the village vig

Patrick WW

Katie WW wrote: »

@patrick - you said you'd tell me later why you voted Kathleen?

My own amusement.

Necro

Not seeing it Katie, I think Eva's claim is much purer than Orla's too fwiw - sequence below:

Eva WW wrote: »

I'd suggest those voting for me switch. I can prove I'm village but not until after lynch.

Eva WW wrote: »

I can shoot someone.

Eva's two claim posts.

Orla WW wrote: »

I’d lynch me if I was you or Necro as I will kill one of you after the munch tomorrow

Suddenly Orla piles in with a vig claim (it's true, but still)

Katie WW wrote: »

So you have a shot too?

Convenient

Agreed.

Orla WW wrote: »

I came out with plenty of time. Necro refused to listen, even Emily asked wtf when he continued to push. I don’t know if Eva is good but of the two of us I at least gave advance warning.

Well done village, top sleuthing tonight

This is a lie. Orla never claimed until Eva did. She made vague cryptic statements about being useful to the village but never claimed until this point. I badgered her about it, go back and have a read.

Also with the pettiness too - again.

Eva WW wrote: »

I have no clue on Orla. All I know is my power and you're currently going to be on the hook for lynching an RV

Eva's response much better imo.

Brendan WW

Katie WW wrote: »

@patrick - you said you'd tell me later why you voted Kathleen?

Just regarding Kathleen, this could be her first game but she is more knowlegable than she puts on.

She has explained abbreviations a newcomer would not automatically know and also corrected a misinterpretation of a post showing previous game knowledge.

JP Liz V1

Eva WW wrote: »

I am but I doubt there will be a chance for me to shoot. I had to out myself to not die and then I got roleblocked. There's no way to know if I was blocked by Senan or the wolves. If it was the wolves then they have to kill me tonight because they can't block twice in a row based on power. If it was Senan then they can block me and you'll probably have to lynch me tomorrow to be sure anyway. Either way, I'm no better than NRV as it stands.

Patrick WW wrote: »

Take it easy on Liz.... shes Homer Simpson slow.

Today I am, playing catch up

I'm still hunching on Patrick, Necro and Baggly either a twosome threesome team, deflecting off scent

Necro

Can you find the posts from Eva where she says she's a one shot Katie? Because that most certainly would be a lie based off her posts today

Katie WW

@patrick - you said you'd tell me later why you voted Kathleen?

Katie WW

Patrick WW wrote: »

Its not necessarily. It alludeds to it more than claims.

And besides, a wolf claiming to be a wolf wouldnt be punished by in game mechanics. Thats my guess.

Necro wrote: »

Not necessarily. What wolf really character claims - also this from Post 3:

Necro wrote: »

I mean the laws of averages state that Kathleen was hamming around with her entry post and having a laugh. But definitely noteworthy.

I think it more to alludes to it - she says let me introduce myself

But definitely as a wolf there'd be no punishment

Katie WW

My thoughts on the players left - four players that I have zero to go on and two more close behind

Angus WW - wolf

Baggly - tunnelling Necro hard, hasn't really looked at anyone else. I can't tell if this is just a tactic.

Brendan WW - I believe his peek, I don't believe that we have a second villager seer

Conor WW - Pocketed by Conor yesterday because he agreed with my view of Eva, haven't seen anything substantial from him today

Eva WW - apparently shot Conor but no notification. I'm 99% sure she is the Orla of Neutral Team 2, a second vig. Has changed her tune from one shot Sally yesterday to village vig today

fixxxer - who? Nothing to go on

Frank WW - who? Nothing to go on. Apparently went off when under a bit of pressure yesterday, is certainly MIA

JP Liz V1 - who? Nothing to go on

KathleenGrant - I like that Kathleen is reading the thread and posting, this is a tough first game. If Patrick's theory on Hans is correct she's almost definitely a wolf

Necro - peeked good by someone I don't trust and yet I believed that peek. I can see Patrick's theory being correct also. Will have to be killed at some stage just to get him off the board

Patrick WW - Definitely pocketed here. Asks lots of questions, has some good theories. Don't like that he's 90% questions and 10% answers, its easy to hide in questions, less easy to put your thoughts down and risk getting caught out later.

Phil WW - who? Nothing to go on

Y0ssar1an22 - Very little to go on also but is credited with spotting that Emily had fingered Angus so major brownie points when he flips red

Angus WW

Necro wrote: »

Not necessarily. What wolf really character claims - also this from Post 3:

Do you remember Jafar?

Necro

I mean the laws of averages state that Kathleen was hamming around with her entry post and having a laugh. But definitely noteworthy.

Necro

Katie WW wrote: »

If she was Hans then surely thats a role claim?

Not necessarily. What wolf really character claims - also this from Post 3:

Shamelessly stolen from another game, but this one thing I will reveal. If you claim your character, the wolves have been given a mechanic to kill anyone who claims their character. you put yourselves at the mercy of the wolves whether you live or die

Patrick WW

Katie WW wrote: »

If she was Hans then surely thats a role claim?

Its not necessarily. It alludeds to it more than claims.

And besides, a wolf claiming to be a wolf wouldnt be punished by in game mechanics. Thats my guess.

Katie WW

Patrick WW wrote: »

She could using flavour. Having fun

She could be covering for a wolf buddy.

She could be Hans and unaware of the obviousness of what her post may attract.

If she was Hans then surely thats a role claim?

Patrick WW

Katie WW wrote: »

I commented about it at the time, I thought it was strange but lost it after that

Looking back now she might not have broken any rule if she's not Hans

She could using flavour. Having fun

She could be covering for a wolf buddy.

She could be Hans and unaware of the obviousness of what her post may attract.

Katie WW

Baggly wrote: »

Eva are you going to shoot @ conor again?

I doubt she'll be able to

I'd again like to say I think Eva should be keeping her target a secret if she's village. You're giving the wolves the option to kill you if they don't like your target or leave you alive if they do. Remember they want people dead

Patrick WW

Katie WW wrote: »

Its out there but I like it, it makes sense especially when you throw in something else.

Kathleen's first post in here was to say she was Bill Clay, Hans alter-ego. Maybe she was covering for a wolf buddy inadvertantly, first game, eager to be useful. But that could be another huge stretch and another rabbit hole.

I just found it a really strange first post to make and in a really circular way it could link into your theory

Necro is most likely village.

However Necros boasting about being cleared rubbed me the wrong way. Based off my Hans theory, which is likely hes far from cleared.

I dont like it when Villagers clear themsleves when they are not fully cleared.

Katie WW

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Good Morning. Let me introduce myself...

Clay. Bill Clay.

I commented about it at the time, I thought it was strange but lost it after that

Katie WW wrote: »

Baggly wrote: »

Sorry what. She claimed what.

Necro wrote: »

Yep, she did indeed

Looking back now she might not have broken any rule if she's not Hans

Brendan WW

Patrick WW wrote: »

I trust you did indeed peek Necro. Im not doubting your information.

Based off your role, how likely is it that your peek is 100 percent true. Like how condident are you that your getting reliabke informatiom from your peek.

Like if this was a Simpsons game and you were Barney the seer, his peeks wouldnt be reliable.

Is there anything in your character Bren that would have you doubt the information youve received is accurate.

Based on my role I would reckon its 100% true

Eva WW

Baggly wrote: »

Eva are you going to shoot @ conor again?

I'm not sure. He's still definitely on my watch list.

Patrick WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

Yes the peek is real

I trust you did indeed peek Necro. Im not doubting your information.

Based off your role, how likely is it that your peek is 100 percent true. Like how condident are you that your getting reliabke informatiom from your peek.

Like if this was a Simpsons game and you were Barney the seer, his peeks wouldnt be reliable.

Is there anything in your character Bren that would have you doubt the information youve received is accurate.