Die Hard WW Game Thread ( An action movie that takes place at Xmas! )

Baggly wrote: »

From a flavour point of view who is the second neutral team. We have the terrorists, fbi.... Is there anyone else in the movie that could be assigned as another neutral team with their own agenda? I don't actually think so tbh.

Ellis, I guess. John McClane if you squint really hard? Can't see other teams per se

Katie WW wrote: »

I think it’s much more likely that we have a Neutral Team 2 with similar powers to Team 1

Katie, what is your take on Brendans reveal?

Angus WW

Eva WW wrote: »

I'm not so sure there is still a second team based on numbers. Could be but I wouldnt be 100% on it.

Maybe but a team called neutral team 1 indicates a team 2 to me aswell. Your right on numbers though however the neutral team needs to get wolves and only wolves which is helpful to us. We need to eliminate everyone non village, they have to play carefully to avoid the 20% mark

Baggly

From a flavour point of view who is the second neutral team. We have the terrorists, fbi.... Is there anyone else in the movie that could be assigned as another neutral team with their own agenda? I don't actually think so tbh.

Katie WW wrote: »

So you both think the village has two seers?

What about an evil seer who claims to have a one time peek? Is that plausible?
It’s a lot more plausible to me that two seers or even a seer and a village one time peek

Where did I say that? I dunno what place it's coming from, other than that the info they provided is correct.

Katie WW

Eva WW wrote: »

Let me give you a third. I'm the village vig and everyone jumping on me has made me useless. Congrats.

I think it’s much more likely that we have a Neutral Team 2 with similar powers to Team 1

Brendan WW wrote: »

I found it interesting. I have no problem her being seer, I have not claimed that role. I was given a once off peek and I gave you the result.

May imI ask why you were forth coming about your information?

Not doubting you, just curious.

Katie WW

Necro wrote: »

Lying about a peek as a wolf is pointless. Yeah grand it might take a villager off the board but then you're bollocksed. Only to be used at end game when you can win after the lynch really, imo.

Brendan is telling the truth, I'm a villager - whether that power comes from a good or a bad place I don't know.

Patrick WW wrote: »

Brendan should be taken at face value IMO until evidence suggests hes lying.

So you both think the village has two seers?

What about an evil seer who claims to have a one time peek? Is that plausible?
It’s a lot more plausible to me that two seers or even a seer and a village one time peek

Brendan WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

if there are 2 there could be more

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

what do you make of emily the dead seer?

I found it interesting. I have no problem her being seer, I have not claimed that role. I was given a once off peek and I gave you the result.

Angus WW

Necro wrote: »

I have the answer to that too!! It was in the morning announcement, the win cons are intriguing!!

Team action: On any given day, you can cut the power to Nakitomi Plaza and this will end the day. The vote counts will be stopped also. Whatever the vote count is at that point of the day will be the final vote count. You can do this any day except day 1. And the action can only be performed within the last 4 hours of the day. EOD is 9pm, so you can perform it anytime between 5PM and 9PM. The counter will be locked at that time stamp, the day will end when the game mod sees the action happen.

Win condition:
“Figure we take out the terrorists. Lose twenty, twenty-five percent of the hostages, tops.” You can kill as many wolves as you want. But if you take out anymore than 20% of the village team, you team will automatically lose. You don’t have a team kill, just the actions listed below. You achieve victory when there is no way you can be beaten.

Still a weird scenario for her not to self pres or Senan not to vote at all. Unless they figured there might be late self pres votes all around and she might get through it. Senan was on shortly after lynch.

How you ended on 3 votes is annoying me though, if a villager did it, id expect a claim to say so. Baggly or Eva were also on 2 votes but didn't self pres either so unless they (1 of them) knew they had the manipulator/double vote to save them. Still a risky strategy.

I'm spitballing here but just trying to make sense of last night

Brendan WW wrote: »

if there are 2 there could be more

Brendan WW wrote: »

Night

Tomorrow is another day where we learn so much more

These posts Brendan?

Brendan WW wrote: »

Just saying I did drop clues yesterday I had a power and was going to peek Necro, subtle but they were there just in cases.

Post #352 page 9 in response to Katie and post # 477 page 12.

what do you make of emily the dead seer?

Conor WW wrote: »

Orlas vote doesn’t make sense though, she could easily have saved herself

Trying to get some sort of solid grounding on what the neutral teams are about here. From the detail this morning it looks like they’re sort of here to help us but also have their own win con. Basically it’s in their interest to kill the wolves but not in our interest for them to be to left at the end. Not really sure how that plays out in terms of what we do with them. Given neutral team 1 is gone I’m assuming there’s a team 2,

I'm not so sure there is still a second team based on numbers. Could be but I wouldnt be 100% on it.

Baggly

Necro wrote:

Why put his head above water if he's a wolf to clear a villager? Makes more sense he saw that I survived a close lynch last night and decided to peek me.

Oh I don't know.... Maybe so that exactly what has happened will happen. You leap to his defence to prove yourself villagery?

Necro wrote: »

Lying about a peek as a wolf is pointless. Yeah grand it might take a villager off the board but then you're bollocksed. Only to be used at end game when you can win after the lynch really, imo.

Brendan is telling the truth, I'm a villager - whether that power comes from a good or a bad place I don't know.

Brendan should be taken at face value IMO until evidence suggests hes lying.

Phil WW wrote: »

I don't think we can assume all neutral teams would have the same wincon? Otherwise they would surely be all on the same team

Nope. Probably different team actions/win cons I would imagine.

Lying about a peek as a wolf is pointless. Yeah grand it might take a villager off the board but then you're bollocksed. Only to be used at end game when you can win after the lynch really, imo.

Brendan is telling the truth, I'm a villager - whether that power comes from a good or a bad place I don't know.

Necro - this argument looks staged to me
Katie WW - same reason as last night
Eva WW - need to do more digging into this gun
Baggly - this argument looks staged to me
Patrick WW
Angus WW
y0ssar1an22
JP Liz V1
Brendan WW - peeked necro as good but village seer is dead. i think wolf/neutral team seer.
Conor WW
KathleenGrant
Frank WW
fixXxer
Phil WW

eva, why'd you try to shoot conor?

Phil WW

Necro wrote: »

I have the answer to that too!! It was in the morning announcement, the win cons are intriguing!!

Team action: On any given day, you can cut the power to Nakitomi Plaza and this will end the day. The vote counts will be stopped also. Whatever the vote count is at that point of the day will be the final vote count. You can do this any day except day 1. And the action can only be performed within the last 4 hours of the day. EOD is 9pm, so you can perform it anytime between 5PM and 9PM. The counter will be locked at that time stamp, the day will end when the game mod sees the action happen.

Win condition:
“Figure we take out the terrorists. Lose twenty, twenty-five percent of the hostages, tops.” You can kill as many wolves as you want. But if you take out anymore than 20% of the village team, you team will automatically lose. You don’t have a team kill, just the actions listed below. You achieve victory when there is no way you can be beaten.

I don't think we can assume all neutral teams would have the same wincon? Otherwise they would surely be all on the same team

Brendan WW

Katie WW wrote: »

I’m out for a while

#FFA2

Eva - I see two scenarios. 1 - she shot Senan, I don’t understand why she would say she shot Conor though. But there’s no announcement of a missed shot which is just weird. 2 - Neutral Team 1 had a vig therefore Neutral Team 2 has a vig, her shot was blocked, possibly by Senan.

Brendan - I do believe Brendan had a peek and I believe his peek of Necro as village. I don’t buy that we have a village seer and then another villager with one peek. I believe that either Neutral Team 2 or the wolves have a seer and Brendan has come out to garner favour with the village with his “one time” peek. I think he has more peeks but he’s on an evil team

Just saying I did drop clues yesterday I had a power and was going to peek Necro, subtle but they were there just in cases.

Post #352 page 9 in response to Katie and post # 477 page 12.

Katie WW

Patrick WW wrote: »

Katie, are you happy with Brendans peek? Like are you taking him at face value?

I’m taking the result of his peek at face value, yes

It’s what his role is that I’m questioning

Conor WW wrote: »

Orlas vote doesn’t make sense though, she could easily have saved herself

Trying to get some sort of solid grounding on what the neutral teams are about here. From the detail this morning it looks like they’re sort of here to help us but also have their own win con. Basically it’s in their interest to kill the wolves but not in our interest for them to be to left at the end. Not really sure how that plays out in terms of what we do with them. Given neutral team 1 is gone I’m assuming there’s a team 2,

I have the answer to that too!! It was in the morning announcement, the win cons are intriguing!!

Team action: On any given day, you can cut the power to Nakitomi Plaza and this will end the day. The vote counts will be stopped also. Whatever the vote count is at that point of the day will be the final vote count. You can do this any day except day 1. And the action can only be performed within the last 4 hours of the day. EOD is 9pm, so you can perform it anytime between 5PM and 9PM. The counter will be locked at that time stamp, the day will end when the game mod sees the action happen.

Win condition:
“Figure we take out the terrorists. Lose twenty, twenty-five percent of the hostages, tops.” You can kill as many wolves as you want. But if you take out anymore than 20% of the village team, you team will automatically lose. You don’t have a team kill, just the actions listed below. You achieve victory when there is no way you can be beaten.

Katie, are you happy with Brendans peek? Like are you taking him at face value?

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

and that was role blocked is your theory?

Yep or BG protection. No flavour mention but I don't know anything more. I had Katie plaveholdered for it but she moved off me when I said I was RV. Conor had said and done very little until I voted for him and then he appeared and voted for me. He has really only focused on me and not done much else so I switched to him as he kept his vote on me after I outed myself as RV on thread. Patrick was the other vote on me but he didn't seem to be around at the time.

Conor WW

Necro wrote: »

Senan did not vote, given Orla was his only team-mate makes sense that nobody else tried to save Orla tbh

Orlas vote doesn’t make sense though, she could easily have saved herself

Trying to get some sort of solid grounding on what the neutral teams are about here. From the detail this morning it looks like they’re sort of here to help us but also have their own win con. Basically it’s in their interest to kill the wolves but not in our interest for them to be to left at the end. Not really sure how that plays out in terms of what we do with them. Given neutral team 1 is gone I’m assuming there’s a team 2,

Eva WW wrote: »

Conor

and that was role blocked is your theory?

Would like to see a lot more FFAs today. They further discussion points at the very least. Happy to collate them if people want.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

who'd you shoot?

Conor

Eva WW wrote: »

Let me give you a third. I'm the village vig and everyone jumping on me has made me useless. Congrats.

who'd you shoot?