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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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She's permanently on twitter now tweeting links to wacky stories from a few years ago and every single conspiracy theory she can get her hands on

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[Deleted User]

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Seriously?

I’m as serious as a heart attack.

ohnonotgmail

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Do you think its an unreasonable position to take Sir?

Its a racist position so yes

[Deleted User]

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

I had a scroll earlier and while I couldn't find a Pol Pot endorsement, I really wouldn't be surprised.

I had a scroll through your posts earlier, and while I couldn't find a Hitler endorsement, I wouldn't be surprised.

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

If she wasn't implying it was their dinner what was the problem with it being a lunch option?

There is no 'If' as you well know, though you seem determined to try to build some kind of strawman point out of a non-existent scenario. She never said it was their Xmas dinner.

The problem with it being a 'lunch option' is that it is not an 'option'. They don't get a menu with options. They get lunch, or in this case, they get some kind of bread with a slice of tomato on it.

You were the one that claimed they were 'treated like royalty' there. Could you see that lunch being presented to any royalty?

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

I do wonder what they are afraid of. As much as some of you think otherwise a DP centre is not akin to a magdalene laundry in 1952.

I have not to date seen verifiable evidence of long standing abuse or mistreatment of DP residents. Like any organ of the state there may be a failure of service for a short period, but inferences that residents regularly face days, weeks, months of substandard food and accommodation are as of yet unsubstantiated no matter how much you wish it were not the case.

The whole setup is wrong. Having adults sharing rooms with other adults not of their choosing is wrong. Being fed with the cheapest of low-budget canteen food, worse than you'd get in a prison is wrong, when there is no option for families to cook their own food of their own choosing. Having kids living their whole lives in a hotel bedroom is wrong.

That's even before you look at restrictive rules treating people like children in a borstal, or examples like the 'slice of tomato' Xmas lunch is wrong.

V8 Interceptor

Deleted User wrote: »

I’m as serious as a heart attack.

:eek:

[Deleted User]

Deshawn wrote: »

Wasn't it a photo with the all Ireland winning Dublin team?

Hardly telescopic lenses in the bushes type stuff.

I originally thought the team had gone overseas working with goal. It was a bit of a shock tbh.

She took it off the school's website I assume but this doesn't negate the fact that she used it on her Twitter to promote a racist agenda. It is scummy and pretty vile behaviour.

V8 Interceptor

Deleted User wrote: »

She took it off the school's website.

She took it from a Mullingar newspaper.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Its a racist position so yes

So the Africans in my scenario would be racists?

Fighting Tao

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

So because the RCC was bad your solution is to import another religion/way of life that is even worse???

Is there that many Muslims in the country that they could be worse than the RCC???

Tbh, I’d prefer not to have any religion, but a few Muslims doesn’t worry me. I wouldn’t be racist or anything.

ohnonotgmail

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

So the Africans in my scenario would be racists?

we are not talking hypotheticals. we are talking about a racist like gemma and somebody like you who supports her doing what she does.

V8 Interceptor

That's fair Tao. But their numbers are increasing at an alarming rate. Small numbers and you'll get some integration and probably few problems. Large numbers and the problems will arise.

Everything is a numbers game at the end of the day, crude as it may sound.

[Deleted User]

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

She took it from a Mullingar newspaper.

And still not making it remotely better...

V8 Interceptor

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

we are not talking hypotheticals. we are talking about a racist like gemma and somebody like you who supports her doing what she does.

I gave you honest answers and you acknowledged that. The least you could do is return the courtesy.

Would those Africans be racists?

Deshawn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She took it off the school's website I assume but this doesn't negate the fact that she used it on her Twitter to promote a racist agenda. It is scummy and pretty vile behaviour.

If someone is trying make a point what better way to back it up than with a photo. A photo that is in the press..

What kind of alternative to direct provision to you envisage.
An honest answer would be nice

ohnonotgmail

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

I gave you honest answers and you acknowledged that. The least you could do is return the courtesy.

Would those Africans be racists?

i dont care about hypotheticals. I prefer to confront what people are actually doing in the country I live in.

[Deleted User]

Deshawn wrote: »

If someone is trying make a point what better way to back it up than with a photo. A photo that is in the press..

A school website isn't 'in the press'. She took a photo off a school website and used it to promote her racist agenda.

Are you seriously defending this action?

ohnonotgmail

Deshawn wrote: »

If someone is trying make a point what better way to back it up than with a photo. A photo that is in the press..

What kind of alternative to direct provision to you envisage.
An honest answer would be nice

what was her point? that black people cant really be irish. that was her point. you don't seem to have a problem with that.

V8 Interceptor

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i dont care about hypotheticals. I prefer to confront what people are actually doing in the country I live in.

Total cop out.

ohnonotgmail

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Total cop out.

not a cop out at all. you are just shouting "somebody else might be racist so that makes it ok for me to actually be racist". It doesn't.

V8 Interceptor

Erm no. I asked you a question which you won't answer because it exposes the absurdity of your argument. In fact you don't have an argument now!

Deshawn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what was her point? that black people cant really be irish. that was her point. you don't seem to have a problem with that.

I would imagine her point was to show the changing demographics of the country.

ohnonotgmail

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Erm no. I asked you a question which you won't answer because it exposes the absurdity of your argument. In fact you don't have an argument now!

racist is racist. it doesn't matter what the colour of your skin. at least own your racism. you've been upfront about it up to now why the sudden coyness?

ohnonotgmail

Deshawn wrote: »

I would imagine her point was to show the changing demographics of the country.

you imagine wrong.

doublejobbing 2

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I had a scroll through your posts earlier, and while I couldn't find a Hitler endorsement, I wouldn't be surprised.

Oh no. Although I have endorsed Trump, for your lot that is sort of the same so.

There is no 'If' as you well know, though you seem determined to try to build some kind of strawman point out of a non-existent scenario. She never said it was their Xmas dinner.

It was implied.

Exactly what is wrong with a tomato and spread sandwich and soup for lunch? How big of a lunch do you require?

The problem with it being a 'lunch option' is that it is not an 'option'. They don't get a menu with options. They get lunch, or in this case, they get some kind of bread with a slice of tomato on it.

You have proof for this I take it.

They certainly have basic options. Meat or no meat. Chicken or fish. Sounds a bit like hospital. Or a wedding.

I'm also going to hazard a guess all meat is halal by default. An option not to my knowledge taken care of in most canteens operated by the state.

You were the one that claimed they were 'treated like royalty' there. Could you see that lunch being presented to any royalty?

I couldn't. I doubt the Queen would be mad into a 4 quid chicken fillet roll from Spar but half the country eats them during the week. I'm not exactly sure what your point here is. Asylum seekers deserve a better standard of lunch than the processed bread and meat most people eat five days a week at 1pm?

The whole setup is wrong. Having adults sharing rooms with other adults not of their choosing is wrong.

Oh I agree. Let's outlaw backpacking around South America and interrailing around Europe while we're at it. I've shared dorms with all sorts down the years, the Thai government should have given me my own beachside chalet!

And don't start me on the culturally inappropriate food. You try getting a garlic cheese chips and quarter pounder in Sihanoukville at 3am, then come crying to me about Aramark.

Being fed with the cheapest of low-budget canteen food, worse than you'd get in a prison is wrong,

Proof?

when there is no option for families to cook their own food of their own choosing. Having kids living their whole lives in a hotel bedroom is wrong.

The vast majority of these people are economic migrants there of their own volition. "Whole lives" show me a child refugee who spent 17 years in a single room.

If I were an employer I'd have serious reservations with giving any responsibility to an adult with this level of naivety.

Deshawn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you imagine wrong.

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dasdog

Deshawn wrote: »

I would imagine her point was to show the changing demographics of the country.

Intolerance is the word you are looking for

ohnonotgmail

Deshawn wrote: »

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nope. cant be bothered. if you cant see how a racist like gemma didnt intend what she said to be racist then there is no hope for you.

Deshawn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

nope. cant be bothered. if you cant see how a racist like gemma didnt intend what she said to be racist then there is no hope for you.

Nope. Can't.

Fixed it for you. Wishy washy arguments for the sake of it.

You will eventually have to start explaining your points instead of just throwing out "racist" at everything you don't like.

Other chap has been giving out about direct provision for at least 3 days. I asked for his honest opinion on an alternative. Away he disappeared.

Disappointing

ohnonotgmail

Deshawn wrote: »

Nope. Can't.

Fixed it for you. Wishy washy arguments for the sake of it.

enjoy being racist. everybody needs a hobby I suppose.

Deshawn

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

enjoy being racist. everybody needs a hobby I suppose.

Lol.

Fight or flight.

Flight

ohnonotgmail

Deshawn wrote: »

Lol.

Fight or flight.

Flight

glad you found it funny. There is no point arguing with racists. you can't change the mind of somebody who doesn't have one.

[Deleted User]

Deshawn wrote: »

I would imagine her point was to show the changing demographics of the country.

If she wanted to show changing demographics, she should have used demographic data.

She wanted to rile up her knuckle-dragging supporters with a picture of black children, taken off a school website.

And you're defending her.