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Gemma not taking enforced retirement too well

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She's permanently on twitter now tweeting links to wacky stories from a few years ago and every single conspiracy theory she can get her hands on

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doublejobbing 2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I can't find the particular report where it was referenced so I'm happy to rescind it. The conditions have been recognised by multiple reports to be unsuitable for children and often unsafe conditions.

Unsafe for children how, exactly?

Again these are buzz terms that nobody is willing to specify. If the children are unsafe because they are living in the same building as unsavoury residents then the wider public is unsafe, yet you and the rest would undoubtedly be offended by the "rapefugees" signs fed up Germans were waving at demos in 2016. Make your mind up.

If they are unsafe for another reason I presume it means that the buildings are fire hazards. In this case a bit of proof would be needed.

You've now encountered multiple posters who are in full time employment that view direct provision to be dreadful.

So? They don't speak for the majority of the population who are growing a bit tired with the moaning of ungrateful South Africans (a democracy since 1994 which legalised gay marriage at a time when most Irish people regarded it as one of those mad ideas that only the anything goes Netherlands would allow).

Asylum seekers get, on arrival

- free accommodation
- free light, heat
- free internet
- free clothing
- free GP care via medical card
- a weekly stipend
- full child benefits and education rights
- freedom to come and go from the centre as they please
- legal aid
- free travel? (Unsure but I'd imagine so)
- free school education (I'd imagine they're not asked for the yearly contribution bollix either)
- pathways to free 3rd level
- discounts all over. Safe pass courses, for one, are free for refugees, travellers and Roma under some schemes.

Until a few years ago an Irish returning emigrant wasnt even entitled to dole under the habitual residence rule.

In some Australian states an immigrant on a skilled worker Visa has to pay the costs of their child's education in s state school despite the fact they're already paying income tax.

Anybody who thinks that they are badly treated is either delusional or on a wind up.

MrsBean

Maybe you should start a thread to discuss the Catherine Day report so.

Patrick2010

Deleted User wrote: »

I can't find the particular report where it was referenced so I'm happy to rescind it. The conditions have been recognised by multiple reports to be unsuitable for children and often unsafe conditions. But you literally don't seem to care and wish to rant about it being the "spoofers" fault. Irish children are all that seems to matter to you..

You've now encountered multiple posters who are in full time employment that view direct provision to be dreadful.

heres an article about it...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/proposed-new-housing-system-for-asylum-seekers-not-workable-says-housing-department-1.4416339

Includes the following..

The expert group’s proposals that accommodation be supplied by local authorities from a “severely constrained supply” is “unrealistic”, it argues.
Additional pressure on the Housing Assistance Payment (HAP) would have “a very serious impact” across the entire housing budget and “would inevitably lead to rental inflation”.
The proposed system will also create a situation where homeless families and people are competing for accommodation with people coming from direct provision, leaving more people homeless and in emergency accommodation, it adds.

If the proposals are implemented, local authorities will have to use their own stock “which was meant for social housing applicants”, it states.
Introducing thousands of asylum seekers into the private housing market, where 68,000 households are already on the housing list, could “foreseeably have a displacement effect” for low to medium income families currently in rented accommodation, it adds.

Asked last week to comment on the lack of housing stock nationwide, Dr Day said she recognised it would “take time for local authorities to build up housing” but that housing pressure was not the same in every county in Ireland. “We believe with close co-operation between local authorities, NGOs and local communities it can be done”.

To those who saying offering housing support is not the same as a free house if I rent a house for 1200 which is then paid by HAP, is that not a free house?

Necro

Mod:

Kindly get back on topic folks. Multiple off topic posts deleted

dasdog

It's somewhat ironic that Gemma, John Waters and Dee don't pay PAYE/PRSI/USC - the latter whom is scamming the welfare system - yet they are the first to point the finger at immigrants.

On a brighter note the Irish Freedom Party blocked me on Twitter for suggesting they are supressed homosexuals.

TaurenDruid

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

So you think...

Do not presume to tell me what I'm thinking, and do not try to put words in my mouth.

tigger123

dasdog wrote: »

It's somewhat ironic that Gemma, John Waters and Dee don't pay PAYE/PRSI/USC - the latter whom is scamming the welfare system - yet they are the first to point the finger at immigrants.

On a brighter note the Irish Freedom Party blocked me on Twitter for suggesting they are supressed homosexuals.

Made me lol.

A very productive and satisfying day, no doubt.

Seth Brundle

dasdog wrote: »

On a brighter note the Irish Freedom Party blocked me on Twitter for suggesting they are supressed homosexuals.

You mean to say they're not? :eek:

dasdog

tigger123 wrote: »

Made me lol.

A very productive and satisfying day, no doubt.

Went further afterwards and trolled Dee on a live stream from her gaf. These are arseholes that should be called out. I got her to say OANN is the truth.

V8 Interceptor

You know I'd be banned outright if I said I'd been trolling Ebun Joseph.

ohnonotgmail

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

You know I'd be banned outright if I said I'd been trolling Ebun Joseph.

have you?

V8 Interceptor

Whoosh

MagoP

gmisk wrote: »

I see aciquestion have more videos of Gemma screeching at customers and shop owners for asking her to wear a mask. Comparing them to Nazis...
Her voice....Jesus....she has no right to service in them...saying she is going to sue them all and if they have a house it will be taken off them....
Isn't she broke?!?

Seriously someone is going to clock her some day and she will thoroughly deserve it.

I nearly feel sorry for the woman. She clearly has serious mental health issues and I reckon there are people taking advantage of it.

NovemberWren

dasdog wrote: »

It's somewhat ironic that Gemma, John Waters and Dee don't pay PAYE/PRSI/USC - the latter whom is scamming the welfare system - yet they are the first to point the finger at immigrants.

On a brighter note the Irish Freedom Party blocked me on Twitter for suggesting they are supressed homosexuals.

About Paye/Prsi/usc; on Dee Wall's website the excellent video Dee has made at the absolutely vacant Antrim Hospital (that Leo Varadkar had said was packed with cases) was most informative and illuminating.

Dee Wall has just accomplished an important piece of journalism and it is presented there on the website for all to see.

No doubt Paye/Prsi/usc is paid by Newspaper Journalists and RTE Presenters.
If only they actually were such - and actually presented the actual news.

brightspark

NovemberWren wrote: »

About Paye/Prsi/usc; on Dee Wall's website the excellent video Dee has made at the absolutely vacant Antrim Hospital (that Leo Varadkar had said was packed with cases) was most informative and illuminating.

Dee Wall has just accomplished an important piece of journalism and it is presented there on the website for all to see.

You mean the empty OUT PATIENTS department when it was closed for the evening?

francois

NovemberWren wrote: »

About Paye/Prsi/usc; on Dee Wall's website the excellent video Dee has made at the absolutely vacant Antrim Hospital (that Leo Varadkar had said was packed with cases) was most informative and illuminating.

Dee Wall has just accomplished an important piece of journalism and it is presented there on the website for all to see.

No doubt Paye/Prsi/usc is paid by Newspaper Journalists and RTE Presenters.
If only they actually were such - and actually presented the actual news.

Morto for you

Nokia6230i

brightspark wrote: »

You mean the empty OUT PATIENTS department when it was closed for the evening?

No matter how often this is pointed out to her on & off line (Periscope TV Broadcasts, Twitter) & to her fellow em, "woke" followers they refuse to believe this.

V8 Interceptor

NovemberWren wrote: »

No doubt Paye/Prsi/usc is paid by Newspaper Journalists and RTE Presenters.
If only they actually were such - and actually presented the actual news.

Well said Madam.

HeidiHeidi

NovemberWren wrote: »

About Paye/Prsi/usc; on Dee Wall's website the excellent video Dee has made at the absolutely vacant Antrim Hospital (that Leo Varadkar had said was packed with cases) was most informative and illuminating.

Dee Wall has just accomplished an important piece of journalism and it is presented there on the website for all to see.

No doubt Paye/Prsi/usc is paid by Newspaper Journalists and RTE Presenters.
If only they actually were such - and actually presented the actual news.

You mean the video that promoted this statement from the Northern Health Trust?

(Sorry, can't embed that as I'm on the phone)

banie01

NovemberWren wrote: »

About Paye/Prsi/usc; on Dee Wall's website the excellent video Dee has made at the absolutely vacant Antrim Hospital (that Leo Varadkar had said was packed with cases) was most informative and illuminating.

Why would Leo be commenting on the capacity of a hospital in a different country?
One that isn't part of the HSE?
Surely that's a matter for Robin Swann and the Northern Health Trusts to comment on?

Also, wasn't it the OutPatient department that was empty/closed?

brightspark

banie01 wrote: »

Why would Leo be commenting on the capacity of a hospital in a different country?
One that isn't part of the HSE?

Probably because we have an "invisible" border with that "country" and what happens in the North inevitably ends us.

Pablo Escobar

NovemberWren wrote: »

About Paye/Prsi/usc; on Dee Wall's website the excellent video Dee has made at the absolutely vacant Antrim Hospital (that Leo Varadkar had said was packed with cases) was most informative and illuminating.

Dee Wall has just accomplished an important piece of journalism and it is presented there on the website for all to see.

No doubt Paye/Prsi/usc is paid by Newspaper Journalists and RTE Presenters.
If only they actually were such - and actually presented the actual news.

It only takes a semi-competent person to identify the fallacies presented in your post.....

V8 Interceptor

banie01 wrote: »

Why would Leo be commenting on the capacity of a hospital in a different country?

"Country" :pac:

Nokia6230i

In her Christmas Eve Rivers of Blood speech Deranged Dee was on about a Mass being conducted Christmas Day morning @ 11 in Morean Hall in (though she repeatedly stuggled with both spelling & pronunciation.....as usual) in Walkinstown (not to mention not actually knowing where it is or was & only being told on Periscope the broad directions to it.

Wanted a "Ring of steel" around the Padre afterwards as apparently "An Tea Fa" were going to throw eggs at him/his car afterwards; one wonders does she ever actually engage her brain before speakiing?

She's making so much of this stuff up & yet her followers, like Gemmas, lap it up without question.

Don't know if it went ahead; nothing on her feed about it; she did say she'd be live-streaming it; look it Dee, you live-stream EVERYTHING to be fair.

She also made repeated accusations about how a woman wearing a Burqa went into a Mosque to prove they were having their religious rituals; so she had a f*****g plant do this? Bizarre.

Nosques, like Catholic Churches here, are & have been open for worship using same 50 people per service until now, today as I type it, St. Stephens Day Saturday the 26th of December 2020.

They too will go online & indeed Private Prayer in Churches was permitted once Daily Masses were over; where I live that meant the Church was open to public between 2pm & Teatime as there was a 10am & 1pm Mass; this time the 1pm Mass is gone til New Year so it'll be 11 O'Clock to 6pm.

She's trying to do what Mr. Sherlock of the Liberal does; create a religious war; she's in her 60s & is old enough to remember the Troubles surely?

What she won't acknowledge is (I class her as homophobic; I think those pics with Paul Murphy were an aberation by her in hindsight) the Muslims she hates are well matched with her in terms of her Catholic faiths belief system on issues such as LGBT ones, Marriage Equality, Repealing of the Eighth Referendum too not to mention that Islam sees Jesus as **A*** Prophet too & reveres him; I think it's pointless trying to explain it to her & her like though?

V8 Interceptor

The Government did bend the rules earlier in the year for Muslims Sir.

Eric Cartman

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

The Government did bend the rules earlier in the year for Muslims Sir.

As much as I despise afreeing with dee or gemma, this did happen and was a cultural abomination that should never have been allowed.

Nokia6230i

Eric Cartman wrote: »

As much as I despise afreeing with dee or gemma, this did happen and was a cultural abomination that should never have been allowed.

Friday Prayers at my local Mosques (2) are limited to 50 People; same as Cathedrals/Churches; indeed my local Mosques have had to introduce 2 Sessions since there's normally be more than 50.

Normal Prayers (5 Times Daily) are conducted at home; to my knowledge but I can chase this up with a local Imam if needs be?

But Private Prayer is permitted in Catholic Church so why shouldn't it also proceed in a Mosque?

You referring to the Croke Park Eid? The Cleric Sheykh (sp?) Al Qadri who is the medias Muslim go-to, reached out to the GAA as their national stadium was suffidiently large to hold such a gathering albeit of a miniscule amount of people, 200; it was or had nothing to do with Govt. as such; however the stadium is taxpayer funded but then Muslims are taxpayers too you know...if you want to spin it that way? Socially distanced event it was too. Out on the pitch. Which wasn't in use....and, unlike the Liberals take on it, no animals were slaughtered on the pitch either....sorry about that.

There's nothing similar in Christianity, specificly Catholicism since it seems to be Catholics v Muslims (despite Islam, like Christianity having a number of divisions within their community too) is there? Christmas isn't the same thing in my mind but, again, in my Parish, there were rolling Masses on Christmas Eve both day & night; I think 5 & in a neighbouring Parish there was 7 incl. Polish Mass at 11pm.

A/B Martin & Rev. Jackson & Rabbi Lent were present by the way; they're up for inclusion & diversity; we don't need another Holy War on this island please.....so stop indulging Dee & Gemmas histrionics.

Catholics aren't being stopped from having Masses with Muslims let proceed; ALL Services will be online from today, St. Stephens Day Saturday the 26th of December 2020

Private Prayers will be allowed; you can do this in Church or at home by the way if you're Catholic.

I'm legit not sure if Private Prayers are done in the Mosque outside of Friday Prayers (which, to repeat, although they happened on Christmas Day where I live as it was a Friday...obviously like) unlike in my local Catholic Church; my local Mosques aren't buildings that lend themselves to being available unlike say, a Cathedral or Church; they're much smaller and so would need a Covid officer on site to ensure social distancing is practiced and numbers inside're limited.

Mosques I know of're in commercial or industrial buildings; we only have maybe 2-3, maybe 4 or 5 in specificly build establishments as actual Mosques, the 1 in Galway, Clonskeagh, Ballyhaunis and 1-2 others maybe?

But again, unlike Catholic Churches they don't strike me as being as open to the public as CCs are.

So Dolores/Dee & Gemma're simply trying to create religious divide & hatred; they want a return to a Catholic Ethno State where those of us, including our Protestant Brethern, are excluded & treated as second class.

Annasopra

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

The Government did bend the rules earlier in the year for Muslims Sir.

No. They didnt.

It was an outdoors event

banie01

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

"Country" :pac:

Our politicians don't dictate policy in the 6 counties, as much as Mary Lou would like to.

Leo has no political or legislative standing to comment on the running of the N.I health trusts or NHS.
It's numbers, it's beds and its strategy are currently outside the remit of Dublin.

But yeah, great contribution and insightful political commentary.

[Deleted User]

Eric Cartman wrote: »

As much as I despise afreeing with dee or gemma, this did happen and was a cultural abomination that should never have been allowed.

Blatantly misrepresenting the reality there.