nigeldaniel wrote: » A united Ireland, unlikely for a long time yet. The Republic can not afford it. When it comes down to Sf and their supporters, as long as Sf get their media attention they will continue to bombast about problems, tangible results they could not give a toss. All one has to do it look north for the proof. Unrest and chaos it where Sf thrive. Sf supporters? all that anger and the increasing ideology of entitlements gives way to some of it. How people can expect to keep getting things at someones else's cost is been increasingly waved away with arrogance. There is a lot of irony with what the Sf supporters and voters think and say. Peoples anger and resent is no longer been managed and instead, people just want to lash out. The famous angry vote is not a wise vote. People can not have everything it's simply not possible for this. The insistence from some that it can be that way gives way to instability and unrest.
suicide_circus wrote: » Realtin a lovely name
Brendan Bendar wrote: » I agree, but what is the alternative. You can’t have elections every time...perhaps the next highest after the previous election
RandomViewer wrote: » Don't know the ins and outs of this but co- opting a family member into the council is common practice, when Manus Kelly died they co-opted his dad, then he retired and now Manus' brother is the Councillor
Suckit wrote: » Fair few do it in local councils when they win a seat in the Dail, common practice or not, it should not be allowed.
Bowie wrote: » Simon won, Leo was handed the prize. So a FG councilor gifting her council seat to her daughter would be okay? And what's your problem with how a man makes a living? #notanormalparty
Kraftwerk wrote: » As I said its the "SF won the election nonsense". Leo won the leadership contest. He was an elected TD and was elected party leader because he had the majority of votes from the other elected FG members. And you think that's like an unelected taxi driver being made a councillor? :pac:
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » I am fascinated by the gap and disconnect between SF supporters and their politicians. None of the shinners I know are in to the liberal stuff particularly when it comes to immigration. They are worlds apart from what you hear in the Dail. All that holds it together is "United Ireland" but scratch the surface and the base will fall a part. I see big splits on issues coming sooner rather than later.
blanch152 wrote: » A government that has a country in the top 10 of every possible metric? Again Occam’s Razor is against you on this one.
blanch152 wrote: » I don’t think you understood my post. There are genuine medical reasons for a particular individual to have concerns about a specific vaccine. There is no reason for general scaremongering about vacccines. Reilly appears to have engaged in the former, numerous Sinn Fein representatives in the latter. If you don’t understand the difference, fine.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Sorry to burst your bubble Randal, I can’t recall saying there was anything ‘wrong’ with the procedures which Derren went through. I merely pointed out the facts and they do happen in other parties too. The Brenner has come under attack here on Christmas Eve for no good reason. Not nice people.
McMurphy wrote: » Brenner didn't think that brainfart through too well
FrancieBrady wrote: » No...just pointing out how it went to YOU, who seems to be the only one here talking in Win/Lose terms. Christmas Eve is not working out too well for you Kraftwerk...have at the eggnog.
Kraftwerk wrote: » The old Shinner switcheroo! Firstly if you read the post you'll notice I never said that anyone said those words. I said its an argument on that level. Secondly Francie is actually arguing that they did win it! Another Shinner shot in the back by a comrade! Thirdly here's the switcheroo. Part one was invent something to deny that it happened and part two is invent your own misleading claim! Again if you read the post you'll see the words "from the other elected FG members." which he did. That's why he won the contest. He had much more parliamentary support from those that were elected.
McMurphy wrote: » Two things wrong with this post, nowhere in the post you quoted of mine, or on this entire site or otherwise have I ever made a claim "Sinn Fein won the election" - why resort to posting nonsense that is so easily debunked is beyond me tbh, but have at it, secondly Leo didn't have the majority of votes, that's the bloody point FFS.
Kraftwerk wrote: » Ah Francie. I wasn't being entirely serious but you genuinely believe SF won the election and were screwed over? This is entry level new Shinner twitter rant stuff...
FrancieBrady wrote: » SF = 24.5% FF = 22.2% FG = 20.9%
McMurphy wrote: » No, it's obviously still going over your head, despite Coveney receiving more than twice the votes than Leo - the party leaders still chose Varadkar, who then went on to lead FG to their second worse election results in the party's history. Get it now?
Kraftwerk wrote: » Good man Francie. Stick to your guns. SF won the election! Jet fuel can't melt steel beams!! :pac::pac:
Kraftwerk wrote: » I've read it. The usual Shinner gob****e stuff. In response to a comment on an unelected councillor sneaking in the back door he said its like how an elected TD was then voted leader of the party. And now we'll have 3 pages of shinners trying to justify their idiotic comments. Hilarious how ignorant shinners are elections :pac:
FrancieBrady wrote: » The 'electorate' said 'No thanks' to de Party Kaftwerk. Tough reality that for you all.
