Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Wanderer78 · 23-12-2020 08:17AM

namloc1980 wrote:

Looking forward to the Trump supporters attempting to defend these pardons.

Rumours of an assange pardon being considered

robinph · 23-12-2020 08:30AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Unbridled corruption

https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1341535449609764864?s=19

So when these people are all called back in to give evidence against Trump, what actual threat is there to get them to talk now. Is it that the pardon is cancelled and straight back to jail if they are not convincing enough? And how immune to anything new that gets turned up are they?

everlast75 · 23-12-2020 08:34AM

robinph wrote: »

So when these people are all called back in to give evidence against Trump, what actual threat is there to get them to talk now. Is it that the pardon is cancelled and straAnd how immune to anything new that gets turned up are they?

Pundits have theorised that they won't be able to claim the 5th because the 5th is there to protect you from self incrimination. If you're immune from prosecution, then you can't claim the 5th.

Regarding whether or not they are immune from future prosecutions, pundits differ on that too.

everlast75 · 23-12-2020 08:35AM

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1341551185468256262?s=19

francois · 23-12-2020 09:19AM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1341551185468256262?s=19

Disgusting individual, should have been tried for crimes against humanity.

ExMachina1000 · 23-12-2020 10:15AM

francois wrote: »

Disgusting individual, should have been tried for crimes against humanity.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

Lock him up for war crimes

duploelabs · 23-12-2020 10:17AM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

What relevance does this have to the pardons?

Sonics2k · 23-12-2020 10:19AM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

Lock him up for war crimes

1/ That has nothing to do with the post, and you know it.

2/ Trump was doing more drone strikes than Obama, in less amount of time. So much so that Trump stopped them from reporting on drone strikes.

So, you think Trump should be charged as a war criminal?

drogon. · 23-12-2020 10:19AM

francois wrote: »

Disgusting individual, should have been tried for crimes against humanity.

Honestly this shouldn't be shock to anyone and not something specific to the Republicans or Trump. Americans always have had this notion that they were the world police,

then can spy on anyone - but other's can't or shouldn't question them
then can assassinate anyone - but other's can't or shouldn't question them
then can get rid of a politician or leader of another country - no questions asked

One thing Trump did was, he kept meddling in his own country rather than others. Which should be commended !

namloc1980 · 23-12-2020 10:48AM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

Lock him up for war crimes

But but but but Obama. The go to for the Trump supporters when they have nothing else.

duploelabs · 23-12-2020 11:24AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

But but but but Obama. The go to for the Trump supporters when they have nothing else.

Well it's quite adroit at derailing the conversation about the disgusting pardons. Best to ignore

Professor Moriarty · 23-12-2020 11:30AM

Sonics2k wrote: »

1/ That has nothing to do with the post, and you know it.

2/ Trump was doing more drone strikes than Obama, in less amount of time. So much so that Trump stopped them from reporting on drone strikes.

So, you think Trump should be charged as a war criminal?

Trump rescinded the drone reporting rule. Guess who set up the rule which detailed every drone strike during his two presidencies?

nolivesmatter · 23-12-2020 11:30AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

But but but but Obama. The go to for the Trump supporters when they have nothing else.

lol That seems slightly hypocritical considering it's but but but Trump here anytime anyone says anything about Biden.

everlast75 · 23-12-2020 11:33AM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

lol That seems slightly hypocritical considering it's but but but Trump here anytime anyone says anything about Biden.

Check the title of the thread, then go have a strong cup of coffee.

everlast75 · 23-12-2020 11:35AM

duploelabs wrote: »

Well it's quite adroit at derailing the conversation about the disgusting pardons. Best to ignore

I disagree.

I think his/her attempts are clumsy and luke warm at best.

A person who would get shredded in a one on one conversation who knows the bear minimum about american politics.

nolivesmatter · 23-12-2020 11:43AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Check the title of the thread, then go have a strong cup of coffee.

The title is "Trump v Biden 2020, How many more court cases will there be? (pt 6) Read OP". By that logic the conversation should be restricted only to the court cases and how many there will be. Don't be silly. I will have that coffee though, good idea lol

everlast75 · 23-12-2020 11:47AM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

The title is "Trump v Biden 2020, How many more court cases will there be? (pt 6) Read OP". By that logic the conversation should be restricted only to the court cases and how many there will be. Don't be silly. I will have that coffee though, good idea lol

Take it up with the mods.

Meanwhile, I'm all in with Trump affiliates getting called out for standing by while Trump ran roughshod over the constitution

https://twitter.com/fortylittleking/status/1341527532982607872?s=20

francois · 23-12-2020 12:55PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

Lock him up for war crimes

Fabulous example of a non sequitur

duploelabs · 23-12-2020 12:57PM

The story behind who trump pardoned. Imagine the victims were American (or even white)

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/update-trump-pardons-4-ex-blackwater-guards-1121909.html

ExMachina1000 · 23-12-2020 02:19PM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

lol That seems slightly hypocritical considering it's but but but Trump here anytime anyone says anything about Biden.

Literally.

That's the standard reply.

I mentioned how Biden was high risk due to his age. Hes nearly 80. I said it was common sense.

The reply I got?
But Trump

Cody montana · 23-12-2020 02:27PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Literally.

That's the standard reply.

I mentioned how Biden was high risk due to his age. Hes nearly 80. I said it was common sense.

The reply I got?
But Trump

But trump is high risk.
That’s a fact.
They both are.

duploelabs · 23-12-2020 02:41PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Literally.

That's the standard reply.

I mentioned how Biden was high risk due to his age. Hes nearly 80. I said it was common sense.

The reply I got?
But Trump

Put the two cases side by side and there's zero comparison

The Raging Bile Duct · 23-12-2020 02:50PM

Lads, why are you letting them bait you so easily. It's getting tedious.

robinph · 23-12-2020 02:54PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Pundits have theorised that they won't be able to claim the 5th because the 5th is there to protect you from self incrimination. If you're immune from prosecution, then you can't claim the 5th.

Regarding whether or not they are immune from future prosecutions, pundits differ on that too.

Is there anything to prevent them just shrugging their shoulders and claiming not to know anything though. You can get answers from someone by offering a better result than if they refuse to cooperate, but if they just stay quiet they are still at no risk (possibly) from any implications. The pardons/ immunity removes any leverage over them. They can just remain quiet if they want.

astrofool · 23-12-2020 03:04PM

robinph wrote: »

Is there anything to prevent them just shrugging their shoulders and claiming not to know anything though. You can get answers from someone by offering a better result than if they refuse to cooperate, but if they just stay quiet they are still at no risk (possibly) from any implications. The pardons/ immunity removes any leverage over them. They can just remain quiet if they want.

If there is evidence that they do know and won't talk, they can be charged with perjury.

ohnonotgmail · 23-12-2020 03:58PM

robinph wrote: »

Is there anything to prevent them just shrugging their shoulders and claiming not to know anything though. You can get answers from someone by offering a better result than if they refuse to cooperate, but if they just stay quiet they are still at no risk (possibly) from any implications. The pardons/ immunity removes any leverage over them. They can just remain quiet if they want.

astrofool wrote: »

If there is evidence that they do know and won't talk, they can be charged with perjury.

they would be held in contempt, not charged with perjury. Judges like to lock people up until they purge their contempt.

ExMachina1000 · 23-12-2020 04:54PM

Cody montana wrote: »

But trump is high risk.
That’s a fact.
They both are.

Sure we all know this. The point is that a statement about Biden is always replied with a "yeah but Trump" post

Like its some sort of competition.

I posted about Obama's bombing campaign. The reply was another yeah but Trump.

Overheal · 23-12-2020 05:01PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

Lock him up for war crimes

Just the other day weren’t you apoplectic that people compared Trumps age to Bidens when you brought it up?

Overheal · 23-12-2020 05:02PM

nolivesmatter wrote: »

The title is "Trump v Biden 2020, How many more court cases will there be? (pt 6) Read OP". By that logic the conversation should be restricted only to the court cases and how many there will be. Don't be silly. I will have that coffee though, good idea lol

Only if you’re willfully ignorant to this being a megathread so all previous titles apply

Sonics2k · 23-12-2020 05:03PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Sure we all know this. The point is that a statement about Biden is always replied with a "yeah but Trump" post

Like its some sort of competition.

I posted about Obama's bombing campaign. The reply was another yeah but Trump.

Hah, you know perfectly well my response was pointing out your complete hypocrisy. You believe Obama should be locked up for war crimes, not something I entirely disagree with, but you'd never say the same about Trump so willingly.

Obama was a disgraceful as every other American president in terms of the sheer destruction he allowed to happen under his lead from the US Armed Forces, but at least he didn't hide the numbers and have his supporters proclaim him as the "Peace President".

Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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