For the CCC1 Go Games programme (U8 to U12) we are +69% since 2008 in Football and the equivalent in Hurling terms is +119%.
kilns wrote: » Yes the vast majority are doing it for free for example the analysts i know for a fact do it for free. For the physios it is not their full time jobs but the quodos it brings being associated with an inter county team brings huge benefits to their private profession. But I am sure they are compensated for their expenses just like every single county does and if you deny that, then you are only kidding yourself You dont think Mayo are handing out money and expenses to their physios and S&C coach. Stop looking for things that arent there and making claims without any proof. Mayo could add another 10 people to their back room team if they wanted, who cares what size it is
the vast increase in numbers hasn't really fed through to senior level yet.
ooter wrote: » Yep limerick are very unlucky not to be going for 4 in a row next year but not a whisper about money. People think it's nonsense that Dublin senior hurlers should be winning all irelands with they money that has flooded in to the county and that's fine, entitled to that opinion. I think it's nonsense that this Dublin football teams success is down to money and I'm entitled to that opinion. Keep mentioning money and I'll keep mentioning hurling cos it doesn't suit the agenda.
ooter wrote: » And apparently they took advice from Dublin on the structures they were putting in place, somebody else might confirm/deny that?
Hammer Archer wrote: » Your post above makes it sound like the template came from Dublin. It didn't. The GAA were the ones who came up with it and helped implement it. That model simply will not help young lads whose parents are Dublin fans and who see Dublin win over and over choose to represent the county they live in. There will be exceptions to that but it's not the same as getting a young lad to choose to play GAA over soccer or rugby. And I'm well aware that no solution will make Kildare or Meath competitive in Leinster in the foreseeable future. Both sides have done reasonably well against stronger teams in other provinces recently but each year, the expectation in Leinster is basically "get as far as Dublin and then try your luck in the qualifiers". That's not changing for the next 10 years or so at least and I'm expecting Dublin to win each Leinster SFC title in the 2020s. But I'm interested to hear the definition of what "hobbling" Dublin would be. I've seen some Dublin fans argue that stopping development funding would be hobbling Dublin. If that's the case then it's basically admitting that the GAA hobbled every county except Dublin for over 10 years as the games development project funding was not available to anyone but Dublin in that time. I, personally, wouldn't be against cutting Dublin's development funding even further. The commercial revenue being taken in is enormous. Dublin county board have spent between €10 and €20 million on Spawell and Hollystown in the last 3 years without even the need to fundraise. This shows that any development funding the GAA is currently throwing their way would easily be able to be covered by the county board.
risteard7 wrote: » I was looking at Paul Manions Instagram. A brand new Hyundai Tuscon from Mooney motors in Deansgrange last year, I presume every player got one. He has a Rolex watch on in the picture posing beside the jeep. Weirandsons on Grafton street kindly donated a Empori Armani smartwatch too, Lucky man. Meanwhile Darren Hughes of Monaghan is up early milking the cows to make ends meet. That's what I love about Amateur sport
Vinnie222 wrote: » Limerick got their house in order at underage yrs ago. Seen the benefits now
robbiezero wrote: » How were they unlucky? There were beaten 3 times in a year, the last of which knocked them out.
Limerick were unhappy that they weren’t awarded a late, late '65’ when a line-ball was deflected over the end-line by a Kilkenny defender.
ooter wrote: » Loads have said limerick were a decision away from 3 in a row.
jmayo wrote: » For all the bashing Mayo often get they have consistently been the one offering most competition to Dublin's greatest ever team. They ran them very close in a couple of All-Irelands and but for some bad luck with own goals might have actually done it. I am tired of hearing shyte at the moment how Donegal and Kerry are the only ones to put it up to Dublin. :mad: Well where were this year then. Donegal haven't done it in 6 odd years. And Kerry had their chance against 14 men for most of the match last year and didn't fooking do it. The thing is without Mayo's close matches against Dublin and boxoffice draw that they are the whole thing could have turned into the Leinster final the last 6 or 7 years. Yes numbers of viewers were high last year and the stadium was full once again, but that was playing on the myth of the old Kerry Dublin rivalry from the 70s.Actually how many realise that the Tyrone-Dublin final was not a full house ??? Yep the dubs in Croker for a final and there were empty spaces. Not many but still some. Wait another few years and it will be noticable.
robbiezero wrote: » I think they would probably have made them play the final even if they won the semi-final. Has to be some of the biggest nonsense I have seen that a team can lose 3 times and exit in a semi-final and be "unlucky" not to have won the final. They were beaten fair and square by KK on the day. There will always be single minor decisions that both teams could point to that could have gone their way. They weren't good enough on the day, thats why they lost. Comparing them to Dublin at this point is tripe. Come back when they do 5 in a row (very unlikely).
ooter wrote: » I genuinely couldn't care less if limerick win 2,3,4,5 in a row but I guarantee you there won't be a whisper about money if they do or calls for something to be done.
threeball wrote: » So your argument is that the first and second most successful teams have plenty of money but then argue that money isn't making a difference :rolleyes:
Bass Reeves wrote: » While I know that most analyst are not paid unless they are the video analyst people I know no physio in any county and few at club level that are not paid. Most physio's cover first aid as well. Physio to a county team would entail 15-20 hours work a week. In general anyone who is using there skillset is paid. On most county set up, Manager, coach's, physio's and other professionals are all paid. Selectors are generally on expenses as well as stats men. Video analyst are paid as well because.of the time it takes. There is no physio not getting paid kudos for private practice is no good at f half your working weekends gone
kilns wrote: » So im other words you agree that it's not just Dublin who compensate back room staff like physio's. I know for a fact analysis people only get compensated for travel costs but not for their time
ooter wrote: » The senior hurlers have all those advantages too but amazingly they've won nothing, who would've thunk it.
the kelt wrote: » Circa 400% increase in Dublins hurling success since the money came, probably a coincidence.
ooter wrote: » https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/attendance-kerry-tyrone-semi-dips-massively-2015-204967 That was last year, no doubt the dubs got the blame for that. :rolleyes:
tritium wrote: » Money doesn’t do it by itself though and dublin have built some brilliant structures after years of neglect. That should be commended and it’s something many other counties need to do.
