KrisW1001 wrote: » The tunnel adds capacity through Glen of the Downs, and allows much better public transport provision for the bypassed route. The queues at Bray are caused by car commuters (usually 1 person per vehicle) originating in Bray itself. This problem should be dealt with by greater public transport provision to and from Bray, not an endless buildout to accommodate peak-time volumes that will eventually just dump traffic congestion into Dublin city itself. There are (very) long term plans for the Luas/Dublin Metro to serve Bray: a good interim would be to build a Bus Rapid Transport system quickly on that reserved corridor (the Metro will run on the surface here, I believe). I favour the parallel route, but it would be very, very costly to construct the Cyan option on surface: this is a wealthy part of the country, and you can expect multiple legal actions against anything that would spoil their expensive views. However, more capacity is needed, if only to provide a higher quality public transport corridor.
donvito99 wrote: » The level crossings between Lansdowne Rd and Merrion Gates are more of a factor on frequency I'd say.
Macy0161 wrote: » Surely the solution is to really drive remote working, given the experience of this year. Tax breaks for companies supporting remote/ hub working, taxing companies (rather than commuters) for parking spaces. It's rail capacity around Connolly, iirc.
Cookiemunster wrote: » But during the recent level 5 restrictions traffic levels only dropped by 15% because manufacturing businesses, construction, schools etc, where people have to travel, were still open.
Sam Russell wrote: » Last October (before Covid) I was surprised at the traffic when I drove south from Dublin to Wexford leaving Dublin at 6 am. Now I do not get up that early, and passing Windgates along the N11 that the traffic travelling north was at a standstill at 7 am. I never knew that the traffic was that heavy that early. Are people leaving that early to get to the traffic jam early, or is this unusual? I saw one bus going north, so that might be a reason - near absence of PT. More roads does not fix this problem. Currently, driving round Dublin, traffic, despite Covid (or because of Covid) the traffic is worse than this time last year - and at all times of day.
Reuben1210 wrote: » No unfortunately this is normal rush hour traffic for the N11/M11
Sam Russell wrote: » I was just surprised that the 'rush' started so early so far out.
punisher5112 wrote: » Last recession it definitely got quieter but it's been like this quite a number of years, it's only now going to get worse, more trucks too.
prunudo wrote: » I take it you're not a transport manager, unless you're coming from the midlands, it makes much more sense for freight from Dublin to use the n11.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » I think routing HGVs to Rosslare via the M9 and N25 is a more realistic prospect. The northern end of the N11 has so many issues, online upgrades aren't going to solve all of them and offline build isn't practical for a number of reasons. There seems to be a mindset here that the N11 is the only possible route to Wexford. The M9 has huge spare capacity which could be used. Extending the western end of the New Ross bypass to meet the M9 south of Mullinavat would mean little extra distance between Rosslare and west Dublin. Very little freight goes directly to Dublin city. That is where most of the factories and distribution centres are located, plus it serves a lot of the rest of the country without using the M50. The N81 Hollywood - Tallaght project could be revived but as an N/M9 extension from south of Kilcullen, a project required anyway. That would also relieve the N7 of M9 traffic which would be another benefit.
josip wrote: » I think an N25 - Mullinavat linkup is highly unlikely, more so after the Glenmore-Slieverue section of the the N25 gets upgraded. Comparing those 2 routes for containers from Rosslare destined for the Western Industrial Estate for example shows: 1h 43m (160km) via the N/M11 2h 23m (225km) via the N25+M9 (A direct link from Ballyverneen to Mullinavat would reduce that by 12m) I know which route the haulage logistics people would chose. OT but is Rosslare really an alternative for any containers ultimately bound for Dublin? Alexandra Basin is getting additional capacity and the channel is being deepened. I don't think Rosslare is deep enough for MV Celine? I can't see Rosslare ever being anything more than a regional port providing container services for the South East.
punisher5112 wrote: » Rail freight would solve a lot, run it off peak.
josip wrote: » Do you mean overnight (midnight to 6)? Would there not be objections from residents along the line? Or is there capacity in the Dublin rail network for freight trains through Pearse, Connolly and on out to Heuston during the day?
loyatemu wrote: » if you're going to overnight the freight, why not send it up the N11, it's empty at night. (FWIW the old Anhydrous Ammonia trains used to barrel through Greystones at 3.30am)
punisher5112 wrote: » I can't see how running trucks, drivers, wear and tear, insurance, test, fuel etc etc is cheaper then running a freight, well loaded freight at that.... Pity they never kept it up and sold off so much land and tore up tracks etc..... Has to be so much better and safer.
marno21 wrote: » Environmental surveys to commence in March and conclude in October.
prunudo wrote: » I was sure they had already done an environmental survey last year. Definitely was talking to someone who said they were doing a survey on behave of Arup.
