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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

Hulk Hands

The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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seligehgit

At least we won't have too long to wallow in our sorrow.

A new year is nearly uponst us!

[Deleted User]

seligehgit wrote: »

Yikes I think that's a tad harsh.

I thought he contributed very handsomely in the first half.A very elusive and creative player with a low centre of gravity.

Quieter second half.

Tommy goals never really got into the game.

Diarmuid was truly outstanding, absolutely ran himself into the ground.

Dublin's game management at the start of the second half when down a man was excellent.

Tagged a couple of scores in the first 5 minutes and frustratingly as ever held possession for what seemed an eternity.

I don't know how David Coldrick missed Mick Fitzsimmons frontal charge.He was 5 yards away at a stretch.

TBF as mentioned already the turning point IMO was the Eoghan Mc Loughlin opportunity.

Some of our shooting was very poor.

Balls dropped into the goalkeepers hands.

Darren Coen unfortunately blew cold.
Nonetheless our mobility caused them serious problems.

Oisin Mullin must be retained at all costs.

The Dublin bench delivered the goods.

Still bizarre IMO that Howard and Mannion failed to start.

O Callaghan,Kilkenny reigned supreme today.

Can the gap be closed next year?

Reape needs to be brought into the setup.

Hopefully Harry will be fit,can Eoin O Donoghue finally convince James Horan of his worth?

I'd be very positive about this team's future but sadly very gloomy in spite of same about any teams ability to knock the Dubs off their perch.

Covid may have been a blessing in disguise for Mayo football. Arguably the extra year puts Mullen a bit on the old side to successfully transition to AFL. Head over now and he is competing with guys with 2 years full time professional training behind them and he also has to learn the sport.
Some of his fielding today makes me think his future is in the middle of the field. That endless energy, footballing ability and the fielding could make a great midfielder

[Deleted User]

seligehgit wrote: »

One hundred percent Clarke had a great day.

Ditto Leeroy.

Definitely shows Leroy is best a bit further up the field

recyclebin

km79 wrote: »

Not being able to get promoted is not good news !

There is promotion and relegation as far as I can tell.

muddle84

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Definitely shows Leroy is best a bit further up the field

He is lost in the back line. He is still our best half back!!

Bunny Colvin

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Are you for real? I'd be one of his biggest critics but tonight isn't the night to try and pin goals or kickouts on Clarkie. He was immense today.

Yep, the kickouts were fine today. Not like he could have saved the two goals either, they broke our line, not David's fault.

030802

A really good hour and then we got swamped.
Played way beyond what I expected: Clarke, Mullin, Keegan, Coen, Loftus, Ruane, O'donoghue, O'Connor x2,
Played fine: Barret, durcan (injured)
below expectations: Aidan, Conroy, Mc Loughlin x2
Subs: Coen did well initially but faded quickly. Truthfully, we fell by the wayside after the hour mark. Fintan, Kilkenny and howard took over and that was that. a few wides and trying to orchestrate a goal chance that was never on...
I have to say that I'm really proud of the performance though and look forward to the new year.
complaints about money, population aside, the dubs really are a fantastic squad and there's no shame in not getting over the line against them. Best of luck to them, no point being bitter. Onwards to a weird league and hopefully some decent crowds in McHale Park

irishgeo

030802 wrote: »

A really good hour and then we got swamped.
Played way beyond what I expected: Clarke, Mullin, Keegan, Coen, Loftus, Ruane, O'donoghue, O'Connor x2,
Played fine: Barret, durcan (injured)
below expectations: Aidan, Conroy, Mc Loughlin x2
Subs: Coen did well initially but faded quickly. Truthfully, we fell by the wayside after the hour mark. Fintan, Kilkenny and howard took over and that was that. a few wides and trying to orchestrate a goal chance that was never on...
I have to say that I'm really proud of the performance though and look forward to the new year.
complaints about money, population aside, the dubs really are a fantastic squad and there's no shame in not getting over the line against them. Best of luck to them, no point being bitter. Onwards to a weird league and hopefully some decent crowds in McHale Park

Are we digging up the pitch so won't be at home at all next year

TCDStudent1

irishgeo wrote: »

Are we digging up the pitch so won't be at home at all next year

Would 2020 not have been a better time to do that due to the lack of games in McHale Park???

Hulk Hands

seligehgit wrote: »

One hundred percent Clarke had a great day.

Ditto Leeroy.

Clarke's kickouts were excellent. I think it's the first time in history Cluxton went long on the majority of his kickouts. Mayo won the kickout battle absolutely hands down. Clarke can take credit in that. Getting beaten by 5 is just down to the gulf in quality. Mayo's tactics were spot on

030802

irishgeo wrote: »

Are we digging up the pitch so won't be at home at all next year

no idea

seligehgit

030802 wrote: »

no idea

Reported on the Mayo GAA website.

No idea when the resurfacing project begins.

https://mayogaa.com/news-detail/10067959/

seligehgit

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Would 2020 not have been a better time to do that due to the lack of games in McHale Park???

Need to delve into the supporters pockets to fund same.

The Covid 19 year that was 2020 I am guessing would have been less than opportune for such a financial task.

Always_Running

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

One positive for next year is that the league will be run on a regional basis so therefore no relegation or promotion at stake. Allows us to blood even more players and try formations.

Regional basis yes but will be relegation and promotion.

[Deleted User]

I said earlier that this did not feel like that disappointing of a loss.

But fcuk it I'm pissed off now.

Not for this loss in particular but for the constant year after year after year year getting to finals only to be meeting the best team of a generation against you.

I know getting to finals is good and you can't win them if you're not in them, and that you have to beat the best, but for once it would be great for Mayo to catch a break and face something other than a great team in a final.

I look at Cork in 2010 as an example.
Five years in a row they lost to Kerry in either the SF or final, and then eventually with Kerry beaten in a QF they get to play and beat Down in a final.
Same goes for Galway in 98, they only had to deal with Kildare.
Even Kerry's solitary win in the 2010s did not involve them playing Dublin.

And don't any one mention. Donegal in 2012, they were a once in a generation machine.

As McStay said, we have never been favorite.

I'd just love to see some year Dublin get beaten an Mayo take advantage and win it out over someone way over their heads.

padd b1975

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Clarke's kickouts were excellent. I think it's the first time in history Cluxton went long on the majority of his kickouts. Mayo won the kickout battle absolutely hands down. Clarke can take credit in that. Getting beaten by 5 is just down to the gulf in quality. Mayo's tactics were spot on

I found the amount of kickouts RTE missed from both keepers because of showing replays very annoying.

Not as annoying as Ger Canning, but annoying all the same.

Nothing really to complain about in the actual game, Dublin were comfortable enough pretty much all through the second half.

Diarmuid and Aidan will be most disappointed with their contributions and losing Paddy Durcan at half time was a real blow.

Oisín Mullin for Young Player of the Year.

seligehgit

padd b1975 wrote: »

I found the amount of kickouts RTE missed from both keepers because of showing replays very annoying.

Not as annoying as Ger Canning, but annoying all the same.

Nothing really to complain about in the actual game, Dublin were comfortable enough pretty much all through the second half.

Diarmuid and Aidan will be most disappointed with their contributions and losing Paddy Durcan at half time was a real blow.

Oisín Mullin for Young Player of the Year.

Only one point I'd disagree on.

I thought Diarmuid O Connor was one of our top performers but unfortunately he didn't threaten the scoreboard.

Achebe

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I said earlier that this did not feel like that disappointing of a loss.

But fcuk it I'm pissed off now.

Not for this loss in particular but for the constant year after year after year year getting to finals only to be meeting the best team of a generation against you.

I know getting to finals is good and you can't win them if you're not in them, and that you have to beat the best, but for once it would be great for Mayo to catch a break and face something other than a great team in a final.

I look at Cork in 2010 as an example.
Five years in a row they lost to Kerry in either the SF or final, and then eventually with Kerry beaten in a QF they get to play and beat Down in a final.
Same goes for Galway in 98, they only had to deal with Kildare.
Even Kerry's solitary win in the 2010s did not involve them playing Dublin.

And don't any one mention. Donegal in 2012, they were a once in a generation machine.

As McStay said, we have never been favorite.

I'd just love to see some year Dublin get beaten an Mayo take advantage and win it out over someone way over their heads.

I think this is the only way Mayo will win an All Ireland.

gormdubhgorm

Achebe wrote: »

I think this is the only way Mayo will win an All Ireland.

I don't know about that. Mayo are just missing that cuteness shot selection it can be learnt. If they find two-three clinical forwards to what they already have.
Mayo are a team that are almost there. They work like dogs and are a fit as anything. But even the fittest teams need a bench. If I was the Mayo CB I would be scouring the country for any quality forward. Not just from Mayo but other counties. It would transform Mayo. Two/three quality forwards. Mayo way too dependant on C'OConnor. Plus Aiden O'Shea seems to be living on reputation alone imo.

EICVD

Squatman wrote: »

Great game. Great showing by 4 to1 outsiders, against the heaviest funded team in the history of the GAA, home advantage and a ref afraid to make a big call in a final. Looks like AIG was missing from the refs jersey. ðŸ€£ well done, the better funded, better equipped, better facilitated, better hyped, home advantaged team won

Hahahaha

Higgins5473

The Mayo egos still seem massively overinflated. Are they hailed as heroes wherever they go in Mayo?

Would love to know what happened in the tunnel but mayo, again Mayo are wound up like a tight spring and choke bad, seem to be the aggressors all the time, there just seems to be such a lack of humility and no keeping egos in check.

Fitzsimons should've been sent off tonight. Awful tackle/assault. That said I am delighted Lee Keegan will never see an All Ireland medal for his GPS cheating, an embarrassment to your county and the GAA in general, a long term ban for bringing the game into disrepute at the very least for that. The desperation, egos, underhanded play and most of all this sense of entitlement of winning an AI seem to be your biggest obstacles.

Best of luck next year, you've a few promising players.

muddle84

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I said earlier that this did not feel like that disappointing of a loss.

But fcuk it I'm pissed off now.

Not for this loss in particular but for the constant year after year after year year getting to finals only to be meeting the best team of a generation against you.

I know getting to finals is good and you can't win them if you're not in them, and that you have to beat the best, but for once it would be great for Mayo to catch a break and face something other than a great team in a final.

I look at Cork in 2010 as an example.
Five years in a row they lost to Kerry in either the SF or final, and then eventually with Kerry beaten in a QF they get to play and beat Down in a final.
Same goes for Galway in 98, they only had to deal with Kildare.
Even Kerry's solitary win in the 2010s did not involve them playing Dublin.

And don't any one mention. Donegal in 2012, they were a once in a generation machine.

As McStay said, we have never been favorite.

I'd just love to see some year Dublin get beaten an Mayo take advantage and win it out over someone way over their heads.

Thats exactly what 2014 was. Dublin were caught out and we missed our chance because we didn't deal with Donaghey.

irishgeo

Higgins5473 wrote: »

The Mayo egos still seem massively overinflated. Are they hailed as heroes wherever they go in Mayo?

Would love to know what happened in the tunnel but mayo, again Mayo are wound up like a tight spring and choke bad, seem to be the aggressors all the time, there just seems to be such a lack of humility and no keeping egos in check.

Fitzsimons should've been sent off tonight. Awful tackle/assault. That said I am delighted Lee Keegan will never see an All Ireland medal for his GPS cheating, an embarrassment to your county and the GAA in general, a long term ban for bringing the game into disrepute at the very least for that. The desperation, egos, underhanded play and most of all this sense of entitlement of winning an AI seem to be your biggest obstacles.

Best of luck next year, you've a few promising players.

You'll find that Dublin player started it as usual. Dublin are great at the old cheating too. Dragging down players before they get goal chances is a prime example. Rolling around on the ground for a little slap.

Even the lads in the u20 squad are at it. The fella in the Galway in the last minute was an embrassment with his dive to get a free.

Mayo were beaten by a better team the Dublin bench was the difference. But as usual Dublin fans can't enjoy it and have to come out and attack as well. It's pretty sad.

But this team will slowly wane like all others when a few of the older players will go.

happyoutscan

Higgins5473 wrote: »

The Mayo egos still seem massively overinflated. Are they hailed as heroes wherever they go in Mayo?

Would love to know what happened in the tunnel but mayo, again Mayo are wound up like a tight spring and choke bad, seem to be the aggressors all the time, there just seems to be such a lack of humility and no keeping egos in check.

Fitzsimons should've been sent off tonight. Awful tackle/assault. That said I am delighted Lee Keegan will never see an All Ireland medal for his GPS cheating, an embarrassment to your county and the GAA in general, a long term ban for bringing the game into disrepute at the very least for that. The desperation, egos, underhanded play and most of all this sense of entitlement of winning an AI seem to be your biggest obstacles.

Best of luck next year, you've a few promising players.

Aggressors?

When we were a soft touch everyone said just that, we were soft. Have a look at a few of your own lads before sprouting this crap. No point in debating this as you are blinded by the antics of your professional fouler and the big mouth on the subs bench (a vile individual by all accounts).

Egos are few and far between on this team, but that wouldn't suit the media agenda now would it? All nice lads, easily approachable (too easy I've always thought) and in general an absolute great bunch of committed players. Brilliant to the young fans (and old) in this football obsessed county.

They're entitled to want to win an All Ireland. Why bother if not?

Your hate for Lee is funny. I'm delighted he can piss you off that much.

Trampas

irishgeo wrote: »

You'll find that Dublin player started it as usual. Dublin are great at the old cheating too. Dragging down players before they get goal chances is a prime example. Rolling around on the ground for a little slap.

Even the lads in the u20 squad are at it. The fella in the Galway in the last minute was an embrassment with his dive to get a free.

Mayo were beaten by a better team the Dublin bench was the difference. But as usual Dublin fans can't enjoy it and have to come out and attack as well. It's pretty sad.

But this team will slowly wane like all others when a few of the older players will go.

Philly said mayo wanted murchan to do elf on the shelf for them but he said no

Blud

Trampas wrote: »

Philly said mayo wanted murchan to do elf on the shelf for them but he said no

Ah that old Dublin wit. Hilarious it was.

[Deleted User]

Trampas wrote: »

Philly said mayo wanted murchan to do elf on the shelf for them but he said no

And murchin said, “with Philly, someone else is always to blame”. Telling

awaywithyou

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I said earlier that this did not feel like that disappointing of a loss.

But fcuk it I'm pissed off now.

Not for this loss in particular but for the constant year after year after year year getting to finals only to be meeting the best team of a generation against you.

I know getting to finals is good and you can't win them if you're not in them, and that you have to beat the best, but for once it would be great for Mayo to catch a break and face something other than a great team in a final.

I look at Cork in 2010 as an example.
Five years in a row they lost to Kerry in either the SF or final, and then eventually with Kerry beaten in a QF they get to play and beat Down in a final.
Same goes for Galway in 98, they only had to deal with Kildare.
Even Kerry's solitary win in the 2010s did not involve them playing Dublin.

And don't any one mention. Donegal in 2012, they were a once in a generation machine.

As McStay said, we have never been favorite.

I'd just love to see some year Dublin get beaten an Mayo take advantage and win it out over someone way over their heads.

Mayo will win an all-ireland within 10years possibly 5.... stephen coen wil be captain..

wirelessdude01

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I don't know about that. Mayo are just missing that cuteness shot selection it can be learnt. If they find two-three clinical forwards to what they already have.
Mayo are a team that are almost there. They work like dogs and are a fit as anything. But even the fittest teams need a bench. If I was the Mayo CB I would be scouring the country for any quality forward. Not just from Mayo but other counties. It would transform Mayo. Two/three quality forwards. Mayo way too dependant on C'OConnor. Plus Aiden O'Shea seems to be living on reputation alone imo.

Interesting you mention scouring the country, I know representations were made to the Basquel boys over a number of years when they weren't getting near the Dublin panel but flying at club level.

AidoEirE

Lads ye were well in the game for a solid 60mins, was always going to be a tough game. Should be proud of the boys that played yesterday. Some of the best up and coming players in the country ye have, disappointing for sure but keep the chin up. Future looks good for this mayo side.