duploelabs wrote: » No, you're misunderstanding his point. It's not Grifting because other people are at it, and because they're doing it in some manner, no matter how small, it means the original crime is ok. _taps temple_
Thargor wrote: » Sounds like Trumps Space Force has only the best people like all his organizations:https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/12/17/space-force-member-was-busted-down-rank-bailing-pt-get-playstation-5.html
Roanmore wrote: » If all these pardons are to be given out is there a deadline when it has to be done or can they be given out on 19th Jan?
aloyisious wrote: » Whatever about the damage Trump & Co have caused the U.S., I'm wondering how the U.S public [incl its service] will take the deliberate actions of both sides of Congress in running the U.S Govt into shutdown all by themselves without a veto from Trump. Will the public just roll over and play doggo or display a definite anger at the Pols carry-on?
Leroy42 wrote: » There are currently 3500+ people dying everyday. National debt has exploded. And ElRussia has just been uncovered in a nationwide cyber attack that appears to show they have been spying directly on US organisations so since March. POTUS has nothing to say on any of this, and the population seems not to care. Why would anything Congress does move the needle?
listermint wrote: » Since Oct 2019 ! There's been an absolute leap in this activity since trump hobbled intelligence services. There has to be a complete and directed root and branch investigation into trump and the GOP next year . This stuff is bigger than anything he's done since elected.
banie01 wrote: » What is actually terrifying regarding the grift angle on this one is which of the Place the money is spun out from. If it's the re-election PAC, that's a crime. If it's the newer "Save America" PAC, the money is for Trump's personal disbursement really along with a % to the RNC. The grift is strong, there really needs to be a huge root and branch overhaul of US political accountability and financial transparency IMO.
aloyisious wrote: » @Leroy: I'm thinking of the average unemployed U.S citizen, the penniless citizen and those other U.S citizens struck down employment-wise from the side effects Covid-19 has had on jobs and the economy. The deliberate diddering on that issue by the senate and house is shamable, putting thousands out of work, out of home and on the breadline. Both chambers of congress have obligations to the nation far above the "keep my seat safe" personal agendas the seat-warmers there have..... It appears that Russia is behind the latest hack-attack on the U.S with Trump on the record that he has more faith/trust in Russian intelligence agencies than in U.S intelligence agencies. It's not avoidable to ask him why he's been engaged in hobbling and nobbling U.S Govt agencies across the sphere since he began his run for president years ago before getting into office and get answers from him for it outside of the political arena.
Brussels Sprout wrote: » So SpaceForce - any chance Joe Biden can quietly shelf this when he takes office? Ideally if he could replace it with a Cyber Warfare branch of the military instead since that'll be a more clear and present danger in 2021.
amandstu wrote: » Keep it for long enough to launch Trump and his cabal into orbit from Cape Canaveral -or wherever it is they operate from.
Detritus70 wrote: » I doubt Spaceforce could even launch a potato a hundred feet into the air.
To assess the legacy of Donald Trump’s presidency, start by quantifying it. Since last February, more than a quarter of a million Americans have died from COVID-19—a fifth of the world’s deaths from the disease, the highest number of any country. In the three years before the pandemic, 2.3 million Americans lost their health insurance, accounting for up to 10,000 “excess deaths”; millions more lost coverage during the pandemic. The United States’ score on the human-rights organization Freedom House’s annual index dropped from 90 out of 100 under President Barack Obama to 86 under Trump, below that of Greece and Mauritius. Trump withdrew the U.S. from 13 international organizations, agreements, and treaties. The number of refugees admitted into the country annually fell from 85,000 to 12,000. About 400 miles of barrier were built along the southern border. The whereabouts of the parents of 666 children seized at the border by U.S. officials remain unknown.
Detritus70 wrote: » Here's a very interesting obituary of Trump's presidency. It is a good summation of how The Donald has made America poorer, more isolated and more divided. He is a cult leader and I'd class his followers as very distinct from run if the mill republicans and more like cult followers.https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/01/the-legacy-of-donald-trump/617255/
DubInMeath wrote: » Most of those things your average republican would agree with imo. For example being poor and not being able to afford health care etc is your fault in their minds.
Itssoeasy wrote: » So apparently the security hack that his own Secretary of State said was a Russian job is now possibly China according to trump. I mean I doubt it’s ever really been a doubt that Russia has some hold on Trump himself or the trump family as a whole but Jesus he’s bending over backwards so far to not blame Russia for anything that limbo dancers are wincing.
pixelburp wrote: » So what odds are there Trump has been promised safe harbour in Russia once he's out in January? Cos his insistent defence of its clear actions against America are hitting real "the lady doth protest too much" territory. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's no extradition policy with the US, right? One flight later and all Trump's post presidential legal problems would be functionally dead in the water.
Igotadose wrote: » His first tweet about it is to defend Russia. 'Nuf said? Why does anyone follow the #IMPOTUS anymore? He's just a rabid old man screaming at clouds.
duploelabs wrote: » It's already been mooted by the Russian press. However it would mean its curtains to his '24 bid, and any of his children's political aspirations. And while there would be no long arm of the law extending to Russia, debt doesn't work that way. It also brings forth the question as to why would Russia grant him amnesty? He's absolutely no use to them now nor does he seem to hold any cards on Putin
pixelburp wrote: » From a propaganda point of view, it's probably not a bad win for Russia: being the home of a (disgraced) president fleeing its system. And Trump corporation might be a useful tool for russian interests, being as it does contain a bevvy of real estate. Appreciate I'm really dovetailing into conspiracy at this point mind you. Primarily though, I can't see Trump sticking around for all those lawsuits to finish. And I'm not convinced 2024 is likely for him; there's a real sense of someone intent on taking the ball home, where he can be forever the winner in his own eyes.
DubInMeath wrote: » Low to nearly nil imo as it wouldn't benefit Putin to do so as he's more of a benefit being left in the U.S. and not in Russia. Can't see the tradition of intelligence briefings to ex presidents being extended to trump given the concerns raised by former security personnel, but on the other hand he certainly has the potential to be a way to leak misinformation for them.
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