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BGW and DGW 20/21 Discussion thread

Benimar

The following fixtures have been moved from GW18 to GW19, creating a BGW and a DGW:

Fulham v Man U
Leicester v Chelsea
Liverpool v Burnley
Leeds v Southampton
West Ham v West Brom

Let the fun begin!

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siblers

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Including City V Brighton

Hopefully Aguero will be fit and KDB will be feeding him assists

siblers

Dearg81 wrote: »

I'm thinking the same, I have 7 players for the blank week so I can easily get 11 without messing up my team as I have 2 frees this week. I'd bring in Kane, a city midfieder and a couple of cheap bench defenders. I can then get better use out of the free hit in the double gameweek.

Yeah, If I had 8 or 9 for the single GW i'd be happy enough. It should hopefully catch a few in my league on the hop as most of them have used their FH and Bench Boost already.

I'm unsure whether to FH or Bench Boost for the DGW. Bench Boosting for DGWs has always failed miserably for me before so may just Free Hit

dr.kenneth noisewater

From looking at my team I only have 6 for GW18 including Mitchell and Burke. Think I'll build towards the DGW and FH for 18

Dearg81

sheroman01 wrote: »

I think it’s worth suffering in GW18 and reaping the rewards of a Free Hit in GW19. That being said I’ve only 6 maybe 7 players for GW18. Does seem very light ...

Just make sure you have 2 transfers going into gw18 and you can up that to 9 players. As long as you have a good set of 9 players you won't lose much ground.

sheroman01

I think it’s worth suffering in GW18 and reaping the rewards of a Free Hit in GW19. That being said I’ve only 6 maybe 7 players for GW18. Does seem very light ...

Dearg81

siblers wrote: »

Was going to free hit for gw18 but the fixtures aren't great. Apart from City V Brighton, lot of the games could be quite tight

I'm thinking the same, I have 7 players for the blank week so I can easily get 11 without messing up my team as I have 2 frees this week. I'd bring in Kane, a city midfieder and a couple of cheap bench defenders. I can then get better use out of the free hit in the double gameweek.

Shanotheslayer

siblers wrote: »

Apart from City V Brighton, lot of the games could be quite tight

Including City V Brighton

siblers

Was going to free hit for gw18 but the fixtures aren't great. Apart from City V Brighton, lot of the games could be quite tight

Rikand

Have 9 players with a dgw in week 19 but only 5 players with a sgw in week 18. I think I'll free hit in 18 and every week from now until 19 bring in a player a week that has a dgw. Aim to have 12-13 dgws and bench boost in 19

CSF

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

Might sit down and have a look at this properly later. At a glance I didn't see many standout double games to target. Maybe city?

I think my plan is to bank my transfer this weekend which will give me an extra week to put a plan together with the exact same amount of transfers to do so.

In the past, I’ve pulled my team apart too much chasing Blank and Double Gameweeks, and this year I’m determined to only make changes that I’m confident will be an overall benefit.

One strategy I’ve looked at is transferring out my 2nd Villa goalkeeper for a playing goalkeeper with a double. Ideally for someone who has good fixtures post Stephen’s Day when Martinez’s fixtures become bad also. 2 birds 1 stone kind of thing.

Jim Gazebo

Might sit down and have a look at this properly later. At a glance I didn't see many standout double games to target. Maybe city?

Ginger n Lemon

mamax wrote: »

Just curious are you planning on wildcarding before xmas?

Ive wildcarded after GW3.

Thinking of 2nd wildcard but now that I think about it, it is pretty dramatic to wildcard for fixtures... will see closer to the time.

F1ngers

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am thinking about same strategy but do have a question - can you use triple captain chip same week you are wildcarding?

https://fantasy.premierleague.com/help/rules

mamax

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am thinking about same strategy but do have a question - can you use triple captain chip same week you are wildcarding?

Just curious are you planning on wildcarding before xmas?

Ginger n Lemon

eh i dunno wrote: »

Think I'll build towards having 10 players for gw18 and then wildcard for gw19. Is that the best solution with my freehit used?

I am thinking about same strategy but do have a question - can you use triple captain chip same week you are wildcarding?

eh i dunno

Think I'll build towards having 10 players for gw18 and then wildcard for gw19. Is that the best solution with my freehit used?

ThunbergsAreGo

skippy15 wrote: »

Think will just free hit the first week and build up to second dgw then use wildcard bench boost combo later in the season,

Its a bit of an intersting wrinkle though that the players that had blank GW1 are mostly the first week so could we end up with (City as an example)

GW18 Skinny 1 City
GW19 DGW 1 City
GW20 Standard 1 City
GW21 GW1 Games added 2 City

So building towards GW19 could end up with a very early wildcard to catch the GW1 doubles. Like you want to sell Villa for DGW but then want them back in for a hypothetical GW21

skippy15

Think will just free hit the first week and build up to second dgw then use wildcard bench boost combo later in the season,

dsmythy

extra gravy wrote: »

Don't think I'll be free hitting for the blank, have two Villa, two City and Wilson and will probably add Son. The fixtures aren't appealing and it just feels like a waste if you have have the template players already. I'll use transfers between then and now to focus on dwgk teams.

There will be the usual blank double combo deeper into the season too. Depends on how someone's team looks now compared to the coming known blanks and doubles.

Also have to consider who has doubles and who they are playing. Are they better than your average double or worse? Will the next double have better teams.playing worse teams?

God I have to look at my team now after saying all this.

F1ngers

Shedite27 wrote: »

There’s no winter break this year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53767120

Can't seem to get the winter break idea out of my head.

Ace2007

F1ngers wrote: »

Winter break, defeats the purpose by scheduling a game.

I may be wrong but I it's not necessarily a winter break. It's more TV companies moving the games, as the PL clearly came out and said they were scrapping the winter break. So if there is room for those games to be played i'd say there is a chance they will be.

Shedite27

F1ngers wrote: »

Winter break, defeats the purpose by scheduling a game.

There’s no winter break this year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53767120

Looking at it again, all the teams that had a GW1 blank, have a blank GW18. Makes more sense to play those games off then, as the Manchester clubs will be in Europe later in the season

F1ngers

Shedite27 wrote: »

Just looking through the fixtures, Newcastle V Villa got cancelled a few weeks back. Both play GW18 midweek and have nothing the following midweek. Surely the obvious thing would be to put that game in there. That would give both of those teams a game in 18 AND a double in 19.

Villa also have another backlog game to get played so seems a no brainier to catch one of them up

Winter break, defeats the purpose by scheduling a game.

Shedite27

Just looking through the fixtures, Newcastle V Villa got cancelled a few weeks back. Both play GW18 midweek and have nothing the following midweek. Surely the obvious thing would be to put that game in there. That would give both of those teams a game in 18 AND a double in 19.

Villa also have another backlog game to get played so seems a no brainier to catch one of them up

extra gravy

Don't think I'll be free hitting for the blank, have two Villa, two City and Wilson and will probably add Son. The fixtures aren't appealing and it just feels like a waste if you have have the template players already. I'll use transfers between then and now to focus on dwgk teams.

Ace2007

Shedite27 wrote: »

Injurys pending, think I'll be looking at Grealish, Son, DCL and 13 DGW'ers for the Bench Boost

Where you get the 16 man chip? :P

Shedite27

Injurys pending, think I'll be looking at Grealish, Son, DCL and 13 DGW'ers for the Bench Boost

Morzadec

Klonker wrote: »

I think I'll do like this, Free Hit for the BGW and load up in advance for the DGW and use Bench Boost.

Yeah looking a this too. Doesn't necessarily need to be 15 DGWers either as the likes of City and Spurs have nice single fixtures in the DGW.

I have 6 SGWers currently and I've identified 4 that I'd like to probably phase out in advance of the blank/double, for a combination of having a bad single and a bad lead in to the doubles.

This is where you need to balance the reward of the double GW with the risk of tearing up your team or focussing all your transfers on preparing for the blank/double. Ignoring the blank/double will kill you, but getting too obsessed with it and throwing everything into it rarely pays off either.

For example the likes of KDB (Palace at home), and Kane (Sheffield away) both have great lead-ins to the blanks/doubles and a fixture in the double where they could potentially outscore many doublers, so they might be players we want to buy/keep

Shedite27

Just looking through the calendar, to see how much messiness we need to contend with this year:

Still have DGW's from GW1 for 4 teams Man City, Man U, Burnley, Villa - Could fit in as DGW26 or DGW37
GW26 clashes with League Cup Final - nothing midweek so league fixtures could be moved to the following Wed and stay in same GW
BGW28 for whoever makes the FA Cup QF - international window after so will need to be accommodated elsewhere (possibly in GW26 also)
GW32 clashes with the FA Cup SF - nothing midweek so league fixtures could be moved to the following Wed and stay in same GW
GW37 clashes with the FA Cup Final - nothing midweek so league fixtures could be moved to the following Wed and stay in same GW

So points 2, 4, and 5 should have no impact on BGW/DGW's. Looks like the fixture guys have it fairly well lined up, so that each time a Cup game potentially clashes with the League game, they've left the following midweek free from fixtures (incl Europe). So there is no need for Blanks and Doubles for anything apart from GW28 (FA Cup QF), when there's an international window after it.

I suspect DGW26 will be as big as DGW19, and it's anyone's guess what happens if any of MU/MC/AV/Burnley make it to the FA Cup Final - they'd likely be on some European midweek.

TL:DR - there's an equally big BGW likely in GW28, and equally big DGW in one of 26/37

Klonker

Morzadec wrote: »

With so many teams having a blank then followed by a double, loading up on DGWers and then using a FH in the BGW probably seems the best play on first view?

Currently I have 9 players from the group that blanks/doubles and 6 from the group that doesn't. So think FH to cover the blank GW18 makes most sense...

Then again we're all going to want our FH for the blanks/doubles at the end of the season so not really sure if there's another way to navigate this!

I think I'll do like this, Free Hit for the BGW and load up in advance for the DGW and use Bench Boost.