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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

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The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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BandMember

It's not a good state of affairs when Brady has lost the faith and is saying that he doesn't think Mayo will win... Normally, he'd be on every media outlet possible the week of a final telling anyone who would listen to him just how much Mayo were going win by....

https://www.independent.ie/sport/columnists/the-three-conditions-mayo-need-to-fulfil-to-overcome-the-greatest-team-of-all-time-39875783.html

[Deleted User]

PressRun wrote: »

The IFI have put up highlights footage of Mayo's last All-Ireland win in 1951. Almost seems like a different sport. Doesn't seem like soloing the ball was much of a thing at that point? Not a whole lot of passing going on either, just hoofing of the ball up and down the field. Nobody seemed to hold the ball in possession for any length of time really. Then at the end, Sean Flanagan has a cigarette in his hand as he's being given the Sam Maguire! It would really hammer home just how long it's been since we last won one. The game has transformed so much since then.

https://ifiplayer.ie/gaa-football-1951/

"Great speed and dash", plenty of that is what we need on Saturday.

Green&Red

muddle84 wrote: »

I used to really like that podcast but following wooly on twitter has really put me off him and the show. He is in the middle of a spat with buff egan at the moment, not to mention his commentary on the Covid restrictions.

From personal experience l find him a nasty arsehole but that’s just my personal opinion

From reading him on Twitter he seems to think he has a level of intelligence that’s far beyond what he actually has.

CMcsporty

muddle84 wrote: »

I used to really like that podcast but following **** on twitter has really put me off him and the show. He is in the middle of a spat with buff egan at the moment, not to mention his commentary on the Covid restrictions.

Dont even mention his name or click on anything to do with him!
I tune out and turn off anything he's on.
Thats the only way media will stop using him.

Whiplash85

seligehgit wrote: »

Indeed that craic with Buff was unpleasant.

Uncalled for.

Buff is an absolute clown. Wolly is worse for getting dragged into a spat with him. Of course Buff then goes with the mental health card angle. I'm sure there is a good reason why he doesn't have a platform beyond facebook and instagram.

TCDStudent1

muddle84 wrote: »

I used to really like that podcast but following wooly on twitter has really put me off him and the show. He is in the middle of a spat with buff egan at the moment, not to mention his commentary on the Covid restrictions.

Same as that. Used to listen to every show. Now, I might listen to an occasional one. He failed to freshen up that show and it's gone stale now. Same voices. And it usually follows the pattern of Wooly saying something and then Conan & Cian agreeing with him. They need opposing voices to Wooly on it. Actually, maybe they should bring Buff on to achieve that!

seligehgit

muddle84 wrote: »

I used to really like that podcast but following wooly on twitter has really put me off him and the show. He is in the middle of a spat with buff egan at the moment, not to mention his commentary on the Covid restrictions.

Indeed that craic with Buff was unpleasant.

Uncalled for.

muddle84

PressRun wrote: »

Ha! I remember that! Someone asked him what really happened between him and Conor Mortimer.

Woolly is a strange one. He asks good questions and can be quite forthright in a way that's refreshing, but he's also very gobby and seems to find it hard to stay in his own lane or resist and argument. Seems to thrive on a bit of drama.

You've summed him up pretty good there.

That show in Mitchels was brilliant stuff in fairness! Not being on the road as much this year means i don't get time to listen to all the podcasts so the GAA hour is way down the pecking list as a result.

PressRun

Mayo_fan wrote: »

I have good memories at one in Castlebar Mitchels a few years ago where interestingly enough Horan was one of the panelist’s

Ha! I remember that! Someone asked him what really happened between him and Conor Mortimer.

Woolly is a strange one. He asks good questions and can be quite forthright in a way that's refreshing, but he's also very gobby and seems to find it hard to stay in his own lane or resist and argument. Seems to thrive on a bit of drama.

[Deleted User]

happyoutscan wrote: »

This is great!

Much better than some of the ridiculous gombeen crap that's out there!

Absolutely
I avoid all of the usual songs in the leadup to a final but I watched that one, brilliant.

Blackjack

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Not your typical Mayo GAA song, :pac: love this. Anyone able to embed it for me?

https://youtu.be/ukg3xv9r4Ko

The songs and tales of four rambunctious boys from Mayo currently residing in Galway.

STRAIGHTPOUR
Four noisy boys from the west of Ireland
Punk/Grunge with a Guinness head

That's actually pretty good. I appreciate it won't suit all tastes but my own is quite varied, I enjoy stuff from Puccini to the Prodigy and a lot in between.

happyoutscan

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Not your typical Mayo GAA song, :pac: love this. Anyone able to embed it for me?

https://youtu.be/ukg3xv9r4Ko

The songs and tales of four rambunctious boys from Mayo currently residing in Galway.

STRAIGHTPOUR
Four noisy boys from the west of Ireland
Punk/Grunge with a Guinness head

This is great!

Much better than some of the ridiculous gombeen crap that's out there!

muddle84

Mayo_fan wrote: »

I’m eagerly awaiting the GAA hour podcast, should be out today.

Another casualty of COVID is the podcast roadshows. I have good memories at one in Castlebar Mitchels a few years ago where interestingly enough Horan was one of the panelist’s

I used to really like that podcast but following wooly on twitter has really put me off him and the show. He is in the middle of a spat with buff egan at the moment, not to mention his commentary on the Covid restrictions.

Always_Running

Green&Red wrote: »

Thats a terrible song

Jimmy Sloyan inspired song?

[Deleted User]

PressRun wrote: »

I find it the best of the podcasts. Good mix of all sports there. Andy and Oisin McConville are the regular guests they have on for the GAA. I'd say Oisin will be on the Irish Examiner podcast this week to talk about the game, a lot of the same talking points will probably come up there too.

I’m eagerly awaiting the GAA hour podcast, should be out today.

Another casualty of COVID is the podcast roadshows. I have good memories at one in Castlebar Mitchels a few years ago where interestingly enough Horan was one of the panelist’s

[Deleted User]

The Supporter wrote: »

Dublin are on a 40 match unbeaten run in the Championship. They are 9/2 favorites with the bookies for Saturday. Ciaran Whelan was talking up Mayo on Sunday Game, Alan Brogan, Pillar Caffrey and Dessie Farrell have come out in the media also talking up Mayo. Why do no former Mayo Players in the Media talk up Dublin?

I think we are approaching it the right way. This year has all been about focusing and performing on the pitch and leaving the media to the pundits. I think COVID has been a blessing in disguise where the players don’t have the same opportunities to engage at public events(and sound bites taken and splashed all over the media) like in previous years, it keeps them grounded as we all know a few of them that really need that

Coillte_Bhoy

The Supporter wrote: »

Dublin are on a 40 match unbeaten run in the Championship. They are 9/2 favorites with the bookies for Saturday. Ciaran Whelan was talking up Mayo on Sunday Game, Alan Brogan, Pillar Caffrey and Dessie Farrell have come out in the media also talking up Mayo. Why do no former Mayo Players in the Media talk up Dublin?

Why on earth would they? Nobody needs to talk them up, we know what they are

Loafing Oaf

The Supporter wrote: »

Why do no former Mayo Players in the Media talk up Dublin?

Because they know it would not be helpful to Mayo to do that...

mayo.mick

Panrich wrote: »

It shows where Dublin are mentally now. In 2016 and 2017 ex players were all going on complaining about Keegan and the antics he got up to and how Mayo were cynical. That was a sign that they were a bit worried going in to those games. They no longer have SHOW any concerns.

:rolleyes:

Panrich

The Supporter wrote: »

Dublin are on a 40 match unbeaten run in the Championship. They are 9/2 favorites with the bookies for Saturday. Ciaran Whelan was talking up Mayo on Sunday Game, Alan Brogan, Pillar Caffrey and Dessie Farrell have come out in the media also talking up Mayo. Why do no former Mayo Players in the Media talk up Dublin?

It shows where Dublin are mentally now. In 2016 and 2017 ex players were all going on complaining about Keegan and the antics he got up to and how Mayo were cynical. That was a sign that they were a bit worried going in to those games. They no longer have any concerns.

spakman

The Supporter wrote: »

Dublin are on a 40 match unbeaten run in the Championship. They are 9/2 favorites with the bookies for Saturday. Ciaran Whelan was talking up Mayo on Sunday Game, Alan Brogan, Pillar Caffrey and Dessie Farrell have come out in the media also talking up Mayo. Why do no former Mayo Players in the Media talk up Dublin?

It's hardly needed. Nobody is saying they realistically think we'll win.

The Supporter

Dublin are on a 40 match unbeaten run in the Championship. They are 9/2 favorites with the bookies for Saturday. Ciaran Whelan was talking up Mayo on Sunday Game, Alan Brogan, Pillar Caffrey and Dessie Farrell have come out in the media also talking up Mayo. Why do no former Mayo Players in the Media talk up Dublin?

Bunny Colvin

The Ah Ref podcast has been excellent this week, four episodes released so far. The former P. R.O one was good, interesting to hear what it's like behind the scenes. They had Enda Varley on as well, another good listen.

PressRun

seligehgit wrote: »

No I'm not.

Wasn't aware of same.

I've a non payment subscription on my podcast app.

TBF I rarely listen to that podcast.

I'll just have to listen to the latest Mayo News podcast hot off the press.:D

I find it the best of the podcasts. Good mix of all sports there. Andy and Oisin McConville are the regular guests they have on for the GAA. I'd say Oisin will be on the Irish Examiner podcast this week to talk about the game, a lot of the same talking points will probably come up there too.

Peanut Butter Jelly

Starting from the back, I think we all know Dublin are going to press Clarke on his kickouts. Interestingly though, Cavan had a lot of success on their own kickout by having runners move into space and by having (most of the time) a keeper that could accurately pick a man out. I don't know if they'd afford Clarke the same spaces but it could be something worth exploring.

It's hard to see how our usual tactic of getting to the 45 or D and passing laterally will do us much good this time. Against Cavan, Dublin surrounded the D and had a solid line 30 to 40 yards out from goal. That said, the ability for the likes of Connor Loftus and Diarmuid O'Connor to take long range shots will be useful as Dublin gave up a few opportunities for Cavan to take points from the 45.

Another option that saw success for the Ulster champions was running at the Dublin defence. Having players come up and taking the ball off the shoulder at speed created pockets behind that wall that let them take shots. With the likes of McLaughlin and Durcan running up from the halfback line, it could be a good opportunity to keep the scoreboard ticking over.

Con O'Callaghan may have worn 14 on his back in the semi-final, but if he spent 14 minutes at full forward, I'd be surprised. He spent a lot of time out along the 45 as a target for a pass to build the Dublin attack, and even dropped back as an option for some of Cluxton's kickouts. While Chris Barrett may be named at fullback on Saturday, I imagine it would be a different man tasked with keeping track of O'Callaghan as he roams out.

Speaking of number 14's, 6' 4" Aidan O'Shea has been targeted with a few high balls in to him during the championship, but it could be the 5'6" stature of Eoin Murchan that prevents Mayo employing that tactic in the final. When Thomas Galligan was the target of the high ball in the semi-final, Murchan dropped back as a sweeper in the box in case the Cavan man claimed the ball and turned for goal. While Murchan wasn't challenged, it would be no surprise to see him fulfill the same role even if it means leaving Tommy Conroy open for a few seconds.

The other roamer in that forward 6, Ciaran Kilkenny, would be an interesting one to see how he's dealt with. Very good at running and linking play but not an out and out scoring threat in my eyes. Coen would probably be the man he lines up with directly but I can't see him being the man to mark him.

The Dublin halfback line will be a challenge to deal with, especially if they all continue to drive forward like they did (especially McDaid). Kevin and Diarmuid will be doing a lot of backtracking to follow their men, but it could open up a lot of green grass if Mayo can keep up the tackling and force some turnovers. Having pace in midfield and Kevin and Diarmuid to pick those passes to Loftus/Ruane or even further up the pitch would be quite a tasty proposition. Cavan found success on breaking that initial Dublin press and got into good positions, although slow decision making and a hesitation to shoot cost them points.

seligehgit

PressRun wrote: »

Are you a subscriber? You need to be subscribed to listen, afaik. They send an email out with the new episodes as soon as they go up, should have gone out this morning.

No I'm not.

Wasn't aware of same.

I've a non payment subscription on my podcast app.

TBF I rarely listen to that podcast.

I'll just have to listen to the latest Mayo News podcast hot off the press.:D

PressRun

seligehgit wrote: »

Any link to that podcast?

Can't find it anywhere.

Are you a subscriber? You need to be subscribed to listen, afaik. They send an email out with the new episodes as soon as they go up, should have gone out this morning.

Green&Red

seligehgit wrote: »

Any link to that podcast?

Can't find it anywhere.

Behind the paywall I'd say

seligehgit

PressRun wrote: »

If anyone is planning on building some optimism before Saturday, I'd skip the Second Captains podcast this week haha. Even Andy Moran was struggling to come up with any scenario in which we could win.

Any link to that podcast?

Can't find it anywhere.

PressRun

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Not your typical Mayo GAA song, :pac: love this. Anyone able to embed it for me?

https://youtu.be/ukg3xv9r4Ko

The songs and tales of four rambunctious boys from Mayo currently residing in Galway.

STRAIGHTPOUR
Four noisy boys from the west of Ireland
Punk/Grunge with a Guinness head

Haha! I like it