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What would you bring back or bring in if you were the Taoiseach of the Country?

AMKC

2Me I would bring back corporal punishments but not in schools. It would be for anyone who litters our beautiful Country or for anyone drunk and a danger.

It amazes me that the Japanese the Singapourings and the Australians are able to keep there countries beautiful and have respect for there beautiful countries and yet we destroys ours and have no respect for it.
How hard is it if you are finished using a mask for instance to put it in the bin be it a bin on the street or at home instead of throwing it onto the footpath?
My punishment for someone caught doing this would be 10 lashes on the back.
For each piece of litter it would be 10 lashes.
Been drunk and menace to society would be 20 lashes. Throwing glass on the ground would be 40 lashes 20 on the back and 20 on the backside.

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Rubberchikken

Have a decent and fair system of car insurance.
It seems like no matter how you you drive or how claim free a driver you are, there's no genuine discount when renewal time comes around.

spurious

I would enforce the laws, particularly traffic laws, but all others too.

I would bring in a system of 12 weeks voluntary community service, which every able bodied person could undertake during their summers or weekends of 4th - 6th year in school. This would be a token, but it would not be possible to leave school and go directly onto social welfare.

I would bring in an incentive based social welfare system, where the more you parent properly, behave like a decent (non-criminal) person, the more 'entitlements' you receive. It should never be more advantageous to choose not to work. None of this paying people who choose to live an anti-social lifestyle at the expense of 'normal' people.

Everlong1

eagle eye wrote: »

I'd sack everybody in management and administrative jobs in the HSE and rebuild it

Who do you propose then would be doing the kind of routine admin work that any large organisation needs to function? Who'd manage the scheduling of hospital appointments or keep records up to date?

Here's another little known fact: one of the reasons there's such a large army of admins in the HSE is because a large part of the great Irish public run to their TD every time they want something for nothing. Refused a medical card because you're not qualified? Run down to the TD and get them to write a letter or better still, put down a Parliamentary Question for answer in the Oireachtas, where it'll be treated with exactly the same importance and urgency as any other burning issue of the day. Who do you think answers all those TD's letters and questions? The Healy Raes alone generate enough paperwork on this type of mickey mouse shi*e every year to fill a decent sized warehouse.

It's also been established, by the way, that a number of posts described as admin in the HSE are not paper pushing jobs but actual skilled jobs directly related to patient treatment.

Government buildings

Bring in laws to get the government to tell the truth.
Eg. anti-social behaviour will only get worse because the legal crowd are making a fortune out of it.
Housing crisis will never be solved because of government policies, the list is only going to get longer.etc. etc.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

spurious wrote: »

I would enforce the laws, particularly traffic laws, but all others too.

I would bring in a system of 12 weeks voluntary community service, which every able bodied person could undertake during their summers or weekends of 4th - 6th year in school. This would be a token, but it would not be possible to leave school and go directly onto social welfare.

Not against this idea, as long as there's some choice, but 12 weeks IS the entire summer holiday.

Also, I dont thing it's realistic to spend an entire year going from school to weekend community service to school and so on without a break. Especially in an exam year.

Everyone needs down time at some point.

ExMachina1000

Squads of goons in vans travelling the country grabbing random people and making them disappear.

Would keep the population on their toes

[Deleted User]

Mandatory military service for one year at 18 years old. Teach the young people outdoor skills, while inculcating a sense of civic duty and quiet patriotism.

Some people would think it would fuel resentment. I think young people would have great memories from spending a year like that before going out into the wide world.

spurious

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Not against this idea, as long as there's some choice, but 12 weeks IS the entire summer holiday.

That's why they would have from 4th to 6th to do the 12 weeks in total, not 12 weeks each year. I don't think that would fly at all, but 12 weeks over 3 years is alright I think.
If they used their weekends for it they could still have all their summer holidays.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

spurious wrote: »

That's why they would have from 4th to 6th to do the 12 weeks in total, not 12 weeks each year. I don't think that would fly at all, but 12 weeks over 3 years is alright I think.
If they used their weekends for it they could still have all their summer holidays.

Theres only two summers - one is they ship transition year.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Mandatory military service for one year at 18 years old. Teach the young people outdoor skills, while inculcating a sense of civic duty and quiet patriotism.

Some people would think it would fuel resentment. I think young people would have great memories from spending a year like that before going out into the wide world.

Either you've never been in the army or you don't know many young people.

Stovepipe

Deleted User wrote: »

Mandatory military service for one year at 18 years old. Teach the young people outdoor skills, while inculcating a sense of civic duty and quiet patriotism.

first of all, armies hate it because you train people who are essentially unwilling to be there and leave in a short time so you have wasted expensive training assets. Nordic countries get either a year's public service or they make college graduates such as doctor's give a year's work to the State. that's a better use of State resources.

[Deleted User]

I'd slit the throat of the racket that is private health insurance and build a robust socialised system.

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd slit the throat of the racket that is private health insurance and build a robust socialised system.

I'd go the opposite way. Completely dismantle public system and let corporations run it for profit.

Too much taxpayer money is wasted. Wouldn't happen with private run companies.

Government coffers would be 23 billion euro a year better off. Tax decreases for all due to less money required with the health service off the taxpayers back.
People can use their now increased salaries for health insurance

Airyfairy12

spurious wrote: »

I would enforce the laws, particularly traffic laws, but all others too.

I would bring in a system of 12 weeks voluntary community service, which every able bodied person could undertake during their summers or weekends of 4th - 6th year in school. This would be a token, but it would not be possible to leave school and go directly onto social welfare.

I would bring in an incentive based social welfare system, where the more you parent properly, behave like a decent (non-criminal) person, the more 'entitlements' you receive. It should never be more advantageous to choose not to work. None of this paying people who choose to live an anti-social lifestyle at the expense of 'normal' people.

To be fair I think most people on social welfare would like to work but find it very hard to get a job. Some people really struggle to find any sort of work and the system doesnt make it easy. For example, people on social welfare technically aren't allowed to volunteer - surely this would fill gaps on a cv, build confidence & skills and help them to gain employment.

People on social welfare often cant pursue full time courses if they already have a qualification. They cant qualify for a grant if a course is a lesser or equal level qualification to one they already have, this makes it impossible for people from low income backgrounds to upskill or reskill. Employers rarely see the transferable skills and there are few if any part time level 5 & 6 courses, particularly outside cities. Springboard courses are mostly all science, tech, accounting & pharma related. Not ideal for most people.

Theres also people with disorders like Asperger's, ADHD, Dyspraxia etc that despite being able bodied and willing to work, cant get employment. For all the talk about inclusiveness in work places its not put in to action & huge numbers of people on the spectrum are unemployed.

There's a huge issue with employer discrimination that no one talks about. I work with young adults & teenagers and as bad as it sounds, in my place of work when staff are helping these young people with cv's, they tell them not to put their address on their cv, if an employer sees a disadvantaged area of town or estate on a cv, it immediately puts the applicant at a disadvantage.
Travelers in particular find it very difficult to get employment because of discriminations.

Then theres issues with transport, for allot of people theyre unable to travel to jobs due to unreliable public transport & not having their own car. Its too costly for them to move to an are where theres higher chances of getting employment as rents are higher in those places.

Some people are genuinely unlucky when it comes to getting jobs, they cant afford to emigrate & years go by, the more time that passes the harder it is to get employment. Ireland is well known for its nepotism and people not connected find it much more difficult to get work.

Theres so many reasons why someone hasnt got a job or is long term unemployed.

Everlong1

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I'd go the opposite way. Completely dismantle public system and let corporations run it for profit.

Too much taxpayer money is wasted. Wouldn't happen with private run companies.

Government coffers would be 23 billion euro a year better off. Tax decreases for all due to less money required with the health service off the taxpayers back.
People can use their now increased salaries for health insurance

And the upshot of that would be that you'd have a vast amount of people refused healthcare because private companies would cherry pick who to treat and who not to. Got a long term illness or chronic disease? Got a disability ? Old? Tough. Unless you're loaded private healthcare doesn't want to know.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I'd go the opposite way. Completely dismantle public system and let corporations run it for profit.

Too much taxpayer money is wasted. Wouldn't happen with private run companies.

Government coffers would be 23 billion euro a year better off. Tax decreases for all due to less money required with the health service off the taxpayers back.
People can use their now increased salaries for health insurance

You mean, like the US system where people can't afford health insurance and profit over lie is profitised?

There's a very good reason why some things are kept OUT of the hands of Corporations.

[Deleted User]

Ban rugby for U18s

[Deleted User]

Genuine racial and gender equality, based on equality of opportunity. (no quotas or reserved places for genders)

No preferential treatment for any gender or racial group. (removal of special status for Travellers)

Genuine equality in the courts, and sentencing of offenses. Extension of sentences to truly be punishing for serious crime.

Capital punishment for gun related crime, and murder.

Cut out all payments to NGOs related to gender, racial, or immigrant agendas.

Deportation orders carried out for every single undocumented migrant, and any migrants/refugees who have been denied access but remain in the country.

Political accountability for all politicians and public administrators, with serious jail time for negligence, or corruption.

Abolish the current political parties, and call for new parties to be formed by people with no previous experience as politicians. A new clean slate.

titan18

Anyone said prima nocta yet? I'd do that one

murpho999

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Capital punishment for premeditated murder offences.

All murders are premeditated otherwise its manslaughter.

Civilised countries do not punish people for murder by murdering them no matter what.

It's in other countries and does not work as a deterrent.

atilladehun

TheBoyConor wrote: »

I'd bring back the Irish Republic that the men of 1916 died for. And erase the 26 county Free State and it's offspring the 26 county Republic of Ireland, both of which are British creations.

I'd re-establish the Irish Republic with a new republican constitution, including an unquestioning claim to the occupied 6. I'd call on all patriotic men and women to make it happen.

They barely agreed on anything. Probably would have gone to civil war if they had succeeded.

They weren't democratic genii. There's a few good statements in there alright but like any politicians they could have argued them this way and that.

Saying that, it would have been interesting to see how they got on. You'd hope a spread of leadership would have more checks and balances than DeVs barely disrupted vision.

Some of the ideas on this thread are mad.

Mine would be: about a decade ago trinity did a study where they paired a pregnant woman up with a parenting councillor. They'd meet every three months and the councillor would prep the mum on the stage they're at and what to expect. They'd help with feeding, teaching, discipline and anything else like managing money etc. They'd continue to meet the mum until the child was 7.

The results were dramatic. Some were first time mothers who left school early others had previous children. All the children excelled. They ate better than their siblings, were top performers in school and presented as happy fulfilled kids. The parents reported huge satisfaction with the system.

The study reported that consistent structured support for mother's can help early stage childhood dramatically.

I'd fund that.

Man Vs ManUre

I would bring back Glenroe on the Sunday night.

weldoninhio

murpho999 wrote: »

All murders are premeditated otherwise its manslaughter.

Civilised countries do not punish people for murder by murdering them no matter what.

It's in other countries and does not work as a deterrent.

I bet in the countries with the death penalty the recidivism rate is 0%, that works for me.

COVID

weldoninhio wrote: »

I bet in the countries with the death penalty the recidivism rate is 0%, that works for me.

That's if you execute the right man, or woman indeed.

StupidLikeAFox

weldoninhio wrote: »

I bet in the countries with the death penalty the recidivism rate is 0%, that works for me.

Better better to have 100 innocent men executed than have one guilty man go free eh?

[Deleted User]

murpho999 wrote: »

It's in other countries and does not work as a deterrent.

Well, that's really hard to say because the people who would be deterred didn't commit the crimes...

There are always going to be people who break laws regardless of the consequences, either because they believe they won't be caught, or they don't care at that given moment.

[Deleted User]

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Better better to have 100 innocent men executed than have one guilty man go free eh?

"The study, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences determined that at least 4% of people on death row were and are likely innocent. Gross has no doubt that some innocent people have been executed"

So, you'd have the other 96% in prison, but ultimately released back into the public? (since life is no longer life anymore)

Yup. that makes sense.

weldoninhio

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Better better to have 100 innocent men executed than have one guilty man go free eh?

With DNA evidence available nowadays, we’re well able to prove someone’s murdered someone. For the likes of Joe Reilly or Graham Dwyer, that would mean life without parole rather than death.

[Deleted User]

weldoninhio wrote: »

With DNA evidence available nowadays, we’re well able to prove someone’s murdered someone. For the likes of Joe Reilly or Graham Dwyer, that would mean life without parole rather than death.

Neither of whom were convicted by DNA evidence.

weldoninhio

bubblypop wrote: »

Neither of whom were convicted by DNA evidence.

Congratulations, your reading is 100%. Top of the class. Hence the sentence, “ For the likes of Joe Reilly or Graham Dwyer, that would mean life without parole rather than death.”