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Big Chinese spy ring in Ireland

Kermit.de.frog

Irish Times has a scoop this evening on the Chinese, a great bunch of lads.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-has-a-lot-of-spies-in-ireland-activists-claim-1.4097005

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Muahahaha

fryup wrote: »

imagine that, in a country of nearly one billion people a massacre that no one dare speak of

now thats control

Its mad stuff. Even madder is what they are doing to the Uigurs in western China. Forcing them to download an app which monitors everything on their phone, forcing them drop their mother tongue in favour of Mandarin, locking them up for even sharing songs or stories from their culture and the entire state is covered by 5G cameras with some of the most advanced facial recognition in the world. Thought crimes are now a very real thing there, Orwells 1984 has basically come alive.

Reviews and Books Galore

Muahahaha wrote: »

Its a pretty unbelievable case and Im surprised media outlets have not reported more on it. It looks strongly like the Chinese-Australian national was assassinated by the Chinese secret service but the thing is they did it on Australian soil. Its along the lines of what the Russians did to Skirpal on British soil yet has hardly attracted much interest. I'd say the Australians are fuming about it, they dont like being made look like mugs.

I wonder why though? There's hardly any need in killing somebody just because they didn't want to become a spy.

Capt'n Midnight

rossie1977 wrote: »

And North Koreas official name is 'Democratic' People's Republic of Korea

Sir Humphrey: East Yemen, isn't that a democracy?
Sir Richard Wharton: Its full name is "The Peoples' Democratic Republic of East Yemen."
Sir Humphrey: Ah, I see, so it's a communist dictatorship.
- Yes, Prime Minister (1986) s01e06

Muahahaha

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

I wonder why though? There's hardly any need in killing somebody just because they didn't want to become a spy.

I honestly dont know. He was half Chinese, half Australian so maybe the spooks thought he was betraying China by going to the Australian police and revealing their spy plot to infiltrate the Australian parliament. The Chinese are cult like so going against them can mean severe consequences.

Was talking to an Aussie mate earlier about it and he was saying it gets even worse- the Chinese government were using Russian style tactics to hack computers and swing their elections towards their most favoured outcome. China is one of Australias largest trading partners so its big news there at the moment.

tdf7187

fryup wrote: »

imagine that, in a country of nearly one billion people a massacre that no one dare speak of

now thats control

Almost nobody mentioned the care home unmarried mother home scandals in Ireland until about twenty years ago and then all of a sudden everyone was on their high horse about them. Imagine, thousands incarcerated in these places for decades and no-one knew? Not buying it.

The capacity for group think and mass delusion is present in all societies.

BDI

If you go to the luas stop between Connolly and busaras there is a little pokey newsagent.

Go to the coffee machine and there is an ice pop fridge, there is a sign that says

SUPPORT CHINESE POLICE

STOP VIOLENT PROTEST IN HONG KONG

Then a load of Chinese writing and phone numbers.

tdf7187

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Hitler was "National Socialist" - own him.

Rubbish. Tim Stanley - a right wing conservative commentator - explains why here:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/11655230/Hitler-was-not-a-socialist-even-if-he-did-stash-champagne.html

ILoveYourVibes

BDI wrote: »

If you go to the luas stop between Connolly and busaras there is a little pokey newsagent.

Go to the coffee machine and there is an ice pop fridge, there is a sign that says

SUPPORT CHINESE POLICE

STOP VIOLENT PROTEST IN HONG KONG

Then a load of Chinese writing and phone numbers.

Remind me to avoid that place.

ILoveYourVibes

Alice?Who dafuk is Alice? wrote: »

The newsagents besides the Brewdock pub? I thought it was Pakistanis running it not Chinese. Ages since I was in though

Chinese govt will pay anyone ....they are not fussy.

Bobblehats

Professor Genius wrote: »

It is about the spice bag?

Any luck with a big chinese onion ring?

ILoveYourVibes

tdf7187 wrote: »

Almost nobody mentioned the care home unmarried mother home scandals in Ireland until about twenty years ago and then all of a sudden everyone was on their high horse about them. Imagine, thousands incarcerated in these places for decades and no-one knew? Not buying it.

The capacity for group think and mass delusion is present in all societies.

People in nearby areas know. Some have been conditioned to believe its ok. Some disagree but fear speaking out. Some people genuinely don't know. Particularly if they live far away from those areas.

MoashoaM

So long as people slip ethics under the rug in exchange for instant gratification the world won't/can't change.

O gee, my neighbor is spying on me, massacring his own and stealing another' property BUT he also has a big telly to sell me.

Telly's are thicker than blood I tell ya!

BDI

Alice?Who dafuk is Alice? wrote: »

The newsagents besides the Brewdock pub? I thought it was Pakistanis running it not Chinese. Ages since I was in though

Yeah. A Chinese looking girl was working the deli and a middle eastern looking chap on the till.

The sign looked like it was homemade from a cardboard box. It could have been dropped there years ago and just left or the owner is into that sort of stuff who knows. I just get a coffee the odd morning there when it’s too icy to cycle and I’m waiting on the Luas.

Reviews and Books Galore

BDI wrote: »

Yeah. A Chinese looking girl was working the deli and a middle eastern looking chap on the till.

The sign looked like it was homemade from a cardboard box. It could have been dropped there years ago and just left or the owner is into that sort of stuff who knows. I just get a coffee the odd morning there when it’s too icy to cycle and I’m waiting on the Luas.

Sounds like the wife's opinion and the husbands avoidance :P

iamgroot

BDI wrote: »

If you go to the luas stop between Connolly and busaras there is a little pokey newsagent.

Go to the coffee machine and there is an ice pop fridge, there is a sign that says

SUPPORT CHINESE POLICE

STOP VIOLENT PROTEST IN HONG KONG

Then a load of Chinese writing and phone numbers.

Maybe you could set up an opposing news agents and label your fridge with a sign that says

"START VIOLENT PROTEST"

"DISOBEY POLICE"

BDI

iamgroot wrote: »

Maybe you could set up an opposing news agents and label your fridge with a sign that says

"START VIOLENT PROTEST"

"DISOBEY POLICE"

I could but I just wanted a coffee on my way to work. Getting involved in a petty Chinese foreign policy squabble involving business loans and employees could make a great sitcom but would be an awful load of hassle.

[Deleted User]

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

People in nearby areas know. Some have been conditioned to believe its ok. Some disagree but fear speaking out. Some people genuinely don't know. Particularly if they live far away from those areas.

They know. Chinese families are very close with extensive connections with those related who are different parts of the country. Some do speak about it. It's come up in university debates here, but obvious criticism is unwise. Not because you'll disappear, but because you'll be barred from so many opportunities such as work, since the Party has it's fingers in many pies. The general assumption is that those who disappear have committed one of the more serious gestures of defiance or broken one of the cultural taboos that all Chinese people know not to cross.

Criticism of government policy happens quite a bit when Chinese people get drunk, but the difference is whether it's said 'privately' to a group of "sensible" Chinese people or made pubic/official (media, online, etc). Anything done officially or if there's a clear record for the average person to see, and that's a serious "no no" here.

The people who don't know are generally those living in the sticks with little contact or interest in the outside world. There's plenty of remote places in China with extremely poor and uneducated people.

iamgroot

BDI wrote: »

I could but I just wanted a coffee on my way to work. Getting involved in a petty Chinese foreign policy squabble involving business loans and employees could make a great sitcom but would be an awful load of hassle.

There is at least one Larry David moment in there. So basically you agree with the sign then?

https://youtu.be/jdYi9sJrT-k

Lone Stone

I really feel like the west needs to crack down hard on the CCP it's blatantly threatening western countries and seeping its way into western business's and industries and using its investments as leverage to push its agenda onto to west.

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Lone Stone wrote: »

I really feel like the west needs to crack down hard on the CCP it's blatantly threatening western countries and seeping its way into western business's and industries and using its investments as leverage to push its agenda onto to west.

Crack down in what way?

iamgroot

Lone Stone wrote: »

crack down hard on the CCP

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Crack down in what way?

[Deleted User]

iamgroot wrote: »

I forgot the primary schools closed early today.

iamgroot

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I forgot the primary schools closed early today.

OK well I guess we await the meaning of 'crack down hard' a little longer then:o

alexv

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Irish Times has a scoop this evening on the Chinese, a great bunch of lads.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-has-a-lot-of-spies-in-ireland-activists-claim-1.4097005

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Interesting article, if a touch one-sided.

This girl was obviously hinting at something, dark goggles and all.

iamstop

Lone Stone wrote: »

I really feel like the west needs to crack down hard on the CCP it's blatantly threatening western countries and seeping its way into western business's and industries and using its investments as leverage to push its agenda onto to west.

They have most of Africa in their pocket. So I hear.

Nicks delight

wow, i really was clueless about this. I searched on google for "Chinese spies" and its a big thing. again, wow there is some blatant spying going on many in countries within EU and USA. So many accused and so many convicted...and that is just the ones who got caught. Maybe we should question why there are so many spies now.
"When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions." William Shakespeare

Wonder if we ever used spies to get information on other countries and their tech.

Maureen Patricia "Paddy" O'Sullivan (3 January 1918 – 5 March 1994)

"We need spies that look like their targets, CIA officers who speak the dialects terrorists use, and FBI agents who can speak to Muslim women who might be intimidated by men." Jane Harman

China vs the World seems to be the new Cold War. I need to read more about all this.

old_aussie

Big chinese spy ring in Australia.

China's 'hybrid war': Beijing's mass surveillance of Australia and the world for secrets and scandal

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-14/chinese-data-leak-linked-to-military-names-australians/12656668

pooh bear has his spies in every take-a-way. CCP scum of the earth!

A database of 2.4 million people, including more than 35,000 Australians, has been leaked from the Shenzhen company Zhenhua Data which is believed to be used by China's intelligence service, the Ministry of State Security.

"I think it speaks to the broader threat of what China is doing and how they are surveilling, monitoring and seeking to influence… not just their own citizens, but citizens around the world."