RandomViewer wrote: » It wasn't an issue then and that was the time that Johnny Bruton was waving his carrot at Charlie Windsor, think if you start looking into politicians partners you'll find a lot of stuff you don't like, might even lead to a exumation or two
aido79 wrote: » Voting for anyone is not compulsory.
RandomViewer wrote: » It wasn't an issue then and that was the time that Johnny Bruton was waving his carrot at Charlie Windsor, think if you start looking into politicians partners you'll find a lot of stuff you don't like, might even lead to a exhumation or two
marieholmfan wrote: » I'm fine with it. Gave Sinn Fein my number 3 last time might give them 1 & 2 this time. Most Irish people see "Sinn Fein IRA" and think it's a boast. Me included. Thirteen gone but not forgotten.
RandomViewer wrote: » But you are ok with the Ceann Comhairle writing commendations for rapists?
aido79 wrote: » What am I going to find out? That one of the sisters who served time in prison married a FF Td? Anything else?
aido79 wrote: » You'd have to wonder about the type of person who would marry a former provisional IRA member while they were in prison for the manslaughter of a detective.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why the concern then? I fail to see why so many people are surprised that 1. Some Shinners support what the IRA did and their methods. 2. That both sides took advantage of the provisions and deals that were a part of the GFA, that they now want to carp about and 3. That many more vote for SF realising that they came from the same place as FF FG and that their past is their past. A vote for SF in 2020 is therefore not a vote for the IRA and what they did, merely an acceptance that what happened, happened and had a context. If their past is not their past then it is high time FF or FG who have been in power got off their outraged, insinuating (when it suits them for political gain) arses and did something about it, as one or other of them as the government have a duty to the GFA to ensure there is no return to the past by any of those who signed up to the GFA. Otherwise what they say is noise and politcal gainsaying and can be treated as such.
aido79 wrote: » This is the kind of thinking that ensures a united Ireland will never become a reality.
McMurphy wrote: » Do you have any posts giving out about the former Leas-Cheann Comhairles partner of choice on this site? If not then sorry, maybe I've mistook you for another poster who was questioning the standard of politicians depending on their partner choice. Actually it was you.
aido79 wrote: » No real concern to be honest. She actually not Sinn Fein's worst representative by a long shot. Obviously there are Sinn Fein politicians that support the IRA's actions. Mary Lou is one of their biggest fans. Sinn Fein were reluctant supporters of the GFA and only went for it when they got permission from the IRA after they found it they didn't have to hand over their weapons straight away.
A vote for Sinn Fein is like writing a letter to Santa and hoping everything magically appears without having to work about the cost of it because someone else is paying.
What would you like FF or FG to do?
aido79 wrote: » Maybe I should question Pat Gallagher's choice of partner too then.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Am I surprised your grasp of history is weak? It was Adams who convinced Hume that an agreement could only be reached if everyone was at the table and only if it was on an all Ireland basis. He demonstrated the mistake Hume had made with his previous efforts that resulted in failure. The IRA where an intricate part of the settlement for that reason as were Loyalists who took part, that is why it worked. As I say, your vote is not compulsory. You don't need to get down in the redtop dirt to demean a woman who made a bad choice to convince you not to vote for them. Be democrats and recognise the mandates given by the electorate? Without taking the huff? Their combined share of the vote has fallen from a high of 84% to under 50%, they need to ask themselves, why that is and stop the patronising blame game.
McMurphy wrote: » Why though? What difference does it make?
aido79 wrote: » None.
aido79 wrote: » You're right. My grasp of the history of it all isn't as strong as a good republican like yourself. I do know that the IRA giving up their weapons was a sticking point and it took them 18 months to eventually give them up with a major bomb in between.
Sinn Fein's poor understanding of economics and their populist bandwagoning is why I won't vote for them. Nothing else. The past is the past as far as I'm concerned.
What mandate? 3 parties got almost equal numbers of seats. Where is the mandate? Do you believe a FF/SF or FG/SF government could be a stable government?
Nobotty wrote: » Someone is working late at night on twitter Latest victim is Roman Shortall who had Someone post documents including his full address showing him to be a director of a company bringing Romanians to work in the health service here for 10 euros an hour I understand thise type of companies get paid a finders fee and or a commission on the wages :eek: I guess next on the list will be other high profile twitter posters
McMurphy wrote: » Roman Shorthall posted just last week that he had concerns about being targeted by an official state government account (fine gael) and raised concerns about those operating it possibly being ministers etc who would have access to his personal data through their state roles. Not to get all conspiracy theorist here, but (and your post above is the first I've heard of this) but that'll definitely give him ammo now.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » I've been trying to follow that on Twitter myself and am struggling to figure out what's going on to be honest. He is angry that someone accessed publically available information from the CRO and deleted his twitter is what I'm getting from it?
rdwight wrote: » "By 1940 the Nazis had invaded and occupied a large part of Europe. That these occupied countries did not desire foreign occupation should have given pause for thought to a movement claiming to seek national self-determination."https://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/oh-heres-to-adolph-hitler-the-ira-and-the-nazis/ This is most ironic illustration of how, for the IRA, the quest for a United Ireland trumps all other moral and political values.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Never commented on anyones choice of partner ever, to score a point Brendi. Not my medicine. You FG lads have no boundaries or ethics when a political party frighten you. Are youse planning to go much lower?
a very cool kid wrote: » That's your one who went on her holiers during the campaign? (The campaign SF expected to win so much they didn't run enough candidate or come up with a program for Government on). How many current TDs that have "issues" are we on now? Patricia Ryan - 9/11 conspiracy theorist Brian Stanley - Anti Fluoride, pro Provo, glorifies death Reada Cronin - hates Jews Violet Wynne - steals from charities Martin Browne - Another with his Twitter gone David Cullianane - Up the RA Dessie Ellis - an actual murderer Aenghus O Snodaigh - wife threatens cops/his election helpers found with weapons/printer cartridges Who have I missed? At what point do these stop being one-offs?
blanch152 wrote: » Yes, up until a day or so ago, he was a hero to Sinn Fein. Now that he has been exposed, it will be interesting.
blanch152 wrote: » I happen to agree with you guys, bringing up someone’s partner to target them is a no-no. Imagine somebody took the username PearseMcAuley and spent all of their time attacking Pauline Tully and Sinn Fein. You would think that disgraceful, wouldn’t you? Except you don’t, when the shoe is on the other foot. There is a very well-known example on here where the partner of a politician was targeted like that, and worse, with homophobic connotations. You did nothing about it, you said nothing about it. You condoned it, you laughed at people who raised it, you accused them of homophobia rather than the person who adopted the username, you defended it, you gloried in it, Well, excuse me, if I don’t accept your bona fides on this one.
smurgen wrote: » Another FG official account looking for violence.https://twitter.com/FG_DublinBay/status/1337737680197705735?s=19 Christ what happened to this party?!
